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Offline Sunny

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #495 on: November 06, 2018, 09:25:55 PM »
Quote from: misty on November 06, 2018, 09:09:22 PM
The FSS were working with tangible evidence using a recognised scientific procedure. If the tests were inconclusive then why would they have risked their reputation one way or the other?
Had the dogs alerted to any Murat property, he would either have been arrested or found himself in the same position as the McCanns did/do, albeit with rather more circumstantial evidence against him. We can only speculate what the McCanns/PJ would have done as a result and how he would have been treated by the MSM & Social Media.

And yet...https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2007/feb/22/topstories3.ukcrime
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Offline misty

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #496 on: November 06, 2018, 09:34:07 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on November 06, 2018, 09:25:55 PM
And yet...https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2007/feb/22/topstories3.ukcrime

And? The procedure was not perfect by any standards. It was therefore necessary to accept that no-one's life or liberty should be determined by the results of an inconclusive test (or the bark of a dog).
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #497 on: November 06, 2018, 09:48:55 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on November 06, 2018, 03:17:04 PM
I don't know what evidence there is about psychics, it's not something I would be interested in. As far as I know it's not reliable enough to get the police interested.
Numerous police forces have used psychics in the past, and the recent past too, including the Met . 
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Offline misty

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #498 on: November 06, 2018, 11:07:50 PM »
A tale of US authorities refusing to investigate (again) a specific area alerted to by a retired cadaver dog. The area had previously been extensively examined by humans. Dr Vass (the scientist involved in the rejected Casey Anthony cadaver dog boot evidence) is also involved.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/is-kristin-smart-buried-in-this-backyard-neighbors-and-a-wonder-dog-say-yes

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Offline sadie

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #499 on: November 07, 2018, 12:43:10 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on November 06, 2018, 01:43:39 PM
The difference being that the police employ over 2,500 dogs in the UK and no psychics..

They are in touch with certain pschics though.

They have been in touch with psychic Matt James on the Madeleine case according to Matt James' blog.



Matt James takes a huge amount of understanding, but with one of hiis tarot card readings it all suddenly fell into place for me ... and it all pointed to the area where fromm my research, Madeleine was being kept at that time.




But you cant see this tarot reading any more, cos since I merntioned it on here, as far as I can see it has been wiped off the internet.

Everything that is identified, noticeably here, as proving certain things about where Madeleine is / was etc. has been deleted off the internet.


Sinister.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #500 on: November 07, 2018, 08:39:10 AM »
It has been suggested the police use psychics as well as dogs to help them in their work;

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10341.msg500644#msg500644

but when asked they denied it;

Not all forces responded; however, there are enough replies to conclude that the police do not systematically and actively make use of psychics.
http://www.critical-thinking.org.uk/paranormal/psychics/do-the-police-use-psychics.php

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #501 on: November 07, 2018, 08:47:23 AM »
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Offline Mr Gray

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #503 on: November 07, 2018, 09:04:13 AM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on November 06, 2018, 09:48:55 PM
Numerous police forces have used psychics in the past, and the recent past too, including the Met .
And that’s a fact, folks, like it or not. 8((()*/
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #504 on: November 07, 2018, 09:34:53 AM »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #505 on: November 07, 2018, 09:38:04 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on November 07, 2018, 09:34:53 AM
When a psychic contacts the police with information the police will check it out if it's feasible. They check out anything feasible offered by members of the public. That doesn't equate to 'using' psychics in the same way in which the police use dogs.
OK now you’re trying to shift goalposts.  I said numerous police forces have used pyschics and that is true as my numerous cites prove, get into an argument about semantics by all means, but count me out of this tiresome game.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #506 on: November 07, 2018, 10:17:37 AM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on November 07, 2018, 09:38:04 AM
OK now you’re trying to shift goalposts.  I said numerous police forces have used pyschics and that is true as my numerous cites prove, get into an argument about semantics by all means, but count me out of this tiresome game.

All you have shown is that police take notice of all members of the public, which includes psychics and others with interesting outlooks on the world.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #507 on: November 07, 2018, 10:49:14 AM »
Quote from: G-Unit on November 07, 2018, 10:17:37 AM
All you have shown is that police take notice of all members of the public, which includes psychics and others with interesting outlooks on the world.
You see, this is why it's completely pointless providing cites for statements for people like you, it's a thankless task and despite the plethora of cites provided I have still (according to you) failed to prove my assertion that "numerous police forces have used psychics in the past".   

I suppose you think the following statement is a true fact then?

"No police force has used psychics in an attempt to solve cases".

Let's leave it there then, if that satisfies you.  No police force has ever used psychics.  I was completely wrong to say they ever had, and all my cites prove how mistaken i was to even suggest it.

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Offline Brietta

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #508 on: November 07, 2018, 10:53:51 AM »


               Good ... now that's settled ... a reminder ... Zapata and unreliable cadaver dogs.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata
« Reply #509 on: November 07, 2018, 01:58:05 PM »
Zapata the liar was unreliable not the dogs is a better thread title.  More liars will be exposed in this case and I will give you a clue - it's not a dog.
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