Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Mr Gray]

Or how wonderful.

Wonderful in what way Rob

[Robittybob1]

We are told what the bedroom is like.   I have not seen what it looks like, so is it a fact or an impression (like an opinion)?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Question for the dog experts:  until a few weeks ago a cupboard in my bedroom contained “human remains”.  My kids’ baby teeth that I pinched from under their pillows in exchange for a pound coin.  In a recent fit of unsentimentality I threw them all away in the bin.  Now, if one of my kids vanished suddenly and the cadaver dogs were brought in to search the house would they alert in my bedroom?

[misty]

Question for the dog experts:  until a few weeks ago a cupboard in my bedroom contained “human remains”.  My kids’ baby teeth that I pinched from under their pillows in exchange for a pound coin.  In a recent fit of unsentimentality I threw them all away in the bin.  Now, if one of my kids vanished suddenly and the cadaver dogs were brought in to search the house would they alert in my bedroom?

No, unless there was dried blood from the roots which had adhered to the inside of the drawer.

[The General]

Question for the dog experts:  until a few weeks ago a cupboard in my bedroom contained “human remains”.  My kids’ baby teeth that I pinched from under their pillows in exchange for a pound coin.  In a recent fit of unsentimentality I threw them all away in the bin.  Now, if one of my kids vanished suddenly and the cadaver dogs were brought in to search the house would they alert in my bedroom?

I doubt putrification would be permitted to occur in those particular circumstances. As soon as the soggy end of the tooth hit the atmosphere it would start to dry instantaneously, so no amino acid breakdown would occur.That couple with the extremely small sample size, no cadaverine putrescine would be emitted for a 'cadaver dog' to detect.
'Blood dog' perhaps? Maybe.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well that’s a relief.  So the human remains dog overlooks human teeth.  Good to know. 

[The General]

Well that’s a relief.  So the human remains dog overlooks human teeth.  Good to know. 

In your very specific circumstances, probably.
If the teeth rot inside the mouth of a corpse, then subsequently fall out - could be a different proposition.

[Vertigo Swirl]

In your very specific circumstances, probably.
If the teeth rot inside the mouth of a corpse, then subsequently fall out - could be a different proposition.

But you don’t really know.  That’s fine. 

[The General]

But you don’t really know.  That’s fine.

Well you are looking for a very specific 'expert' on a 'tiny forum'.

[Mr Gray]

In your very specific circumstances, probably.
If the teeth rot inside the mouth of a corpse, then subsequently fall out - could be a different proposition.

From my experience  teeth dint fall out of corpses but remain attached to the jaw

[Robittybob1]

Did you check to see they weren't using Fixodent Original Denture Adhesive? 

Is that Fixodent as good as Polident for holding teeth in place?

[The General]

From my experience  teeth dint fall out of corpses but remain attached to the jaw

Depends on your experiences. And is that the best you can do - refuting the posited hypothetical scenario? What about the premise of my original point re: putrification versus non-putrification of a newly extracted or lost tooth? Nothing on that, just the possibility of a tooth potentially adhering to the jaw post mortem? Don't attack the point, attack the periphery?

[Mr Gray]

Depends on your experiences. And is that the best you can do - refuting the posited hypothetical scenario? What about the premise of my original point re: putrification versus non-putrification of a newly extracted or lost tooth? Nothing on that, just the possibility of a tooth potentially adhering to the jaw post mortem? Don't attack the point, attack the periphery?

It would depend on how much connective tissue and pulp remnants were present... With a naturally exfoliated teeth there would be little of both...I don't see why teeth would fall out of a jaw post mortem..


Certainly if extracted teeth are left a few days they start to stink... We are talking about naturally exfoliated deciduos teeth in this instance... Which if left a few days... Don't stink

[The General]

It would depend on how much connective tissue and pulp remnants were present... With a naturally exfoliated teeth there would be little of both...I don't see why teeth would fall out of a jaw post mortem..


Certainly if extracted teeth are left a few days they start to stink... We are talking about naturally exfoliated deciduos teeth in this instance... Which if left a few days... Don't stink

OK, thanks for that.

[Mr Gray]

It's here... Sceptics seem to think the dogs are reliable and take offence if it said they are not... I think they can be both reliable and unreliable  depending on the circumstances