Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[G-Unit]

Grime presented the cadaver dog evidence to the court

Did he refer to it as evidence?

[Mr Gray]

Did he refer to it as evidence?

Are you suggesting it wasn't considered as evidence... That's absurd

You do understand what "testified " means

[G-Unit]

Are you suggesting it wasn't considered as evidence... That's absurd

You do understand what "testified " means

Of course they were considered as evidence. Why? Who decided to use them as evidence? Who ruled them admissible as evidence? Not Grime.

[Mr Gray]

Of course they were considered as evidence. Why? Who decided to use them as evidence? Who ruled them admissible as evidence? Not Grime.

Grime presented them to the court as evidence...

[G-Unit]

Grime presented them to the court as evidence...

i know, you keep saying that, but what does it mean? Did he answer the questions he was asked? Was he asked if the alerts were evidence? Did he say yes?

[Mr Gray]

i know, you keep saying that, but what does it mean? Did he answer the questions he was asked? Was he asked if the alerts were evidence? Did he say yes?

The dog alerts were admitted as evidence...they are only as reliable as the handler claims, they are

[G-Unit]

The dog alerts were admitted as evidence...they are only as reliable as the handler claims, they are

Correct. Who admitted them as evidence? The Judge. Did Grime persuade her to do that? Did he tell her the alerts were evidence?

[Mr Gray]

Correct. Who admitted them as evidence? The Judge. Did Grime persuade her to do that? Did he tell her the alerts were evidence?

So why did the judge consider the alerts, as evidence...

[G-Unit]

So why did the judge consider the alerts, as evidence...

Did Grime tell her they were evidence?

[Robittybob1]

There was no confession in the lane case but grime still presented the alerts in court as evidence ...that's what's changed

In the Lane case we don't have the court transcript to really follow how Grime thought the anecdotal evidence confirmed the dog alerts.

[Robittybob1]

anecdotal
/ˌanɪkˈdəʊtl/
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adjective
(of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.

Any witness statement falls into that category.

[Robittybob1]

Grime presented them to the court as evidence...

What were the words he said in court?

[Mr Gray]

Did Grime tell her they were evidence?

Grime testified..re the alerts... grine submitted the dogs training  report into evidence..the court did not exclude the cadaver dog evidence...wahts the oath in the US...in the Uk its...the evidence i shall give

[Robittybob1]

So why did the judge consider the alerts, as evidence...

The judge may have been persuaded by the rest of the evidence, and allowed the testimony presented by Grime.  If you feel Lane has been wrongly convicted, you could be right, it won't be the first time a jury has come to the wrong conclusion.

[Mr Gray]

What were the words he said in court?

the court referred to the alerts as evidence....grime testified ...according to the court report of the appeal...yo testify is to give evidence. THe alerts would ahve no value as evidence wirhout grimes testimony