Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Robittybob1]

for those who claim how useful the dogs are...well how useful are they. What has grime acheived with his dogs since 2007....12 years...what success has he had

Owner
Forensic Canine Search Consultancy
August 2007 – Present 12 years
Provision of Canine Search Services to Law Enforcement.

As Grime himself says in the white paper page #12/187:
"Negative searches are as impactive as those that are positive, they provide intelligence to the investigators, so as to assist in focusing resources elsewhere in quick time."

[Mr Gray]

As Grime himself says in the white paper page #12/187:
"Negative searches are as impactive as those that are positive, they provide intelligence to the investigators, so as to assist in focusing resources elsewhere in quick time."

I asked what he had acheived...of course if alerts are false positives then they divert resources and hinder an investigation

[Robittybob1]

I asked what he had acheived...of course if alerts are false positives then they divert resources and hinder an investigation

The ratio between positive results to negative results were in the high 90s. 

[Robittybob1]

I asked what he had acheived...of course if alerts are false positives then they divert resources and hinder an investigation

How can you define success when even negative searches are considered as important.

[Mr Gray]

The ratio between positive results to negative results were in the high 90s.

that was in controlled tests....its totally false to  extrapolate those figures into searches such as LUZ...if it was realistic then there MUST have been a cadaver in 5a...we all know the results do not prove a cadaver was in 5a

all grimes test show taht the dogs will alert to cadaver if it is present...the tests do not tell anything about how the dogs will react if cadaver isnt present

[Mr Gray]

How can you define success when even negative searches are considered as important.

how can negative results be important if postive results arent...none of the results in Luz or jersey were of any impotance...grime is assuming the alerts are accurate

[Robittybob1]

how can negative results be important if postive results arent...none of the results in Luz or jersey were of any impotance...grime is assuming the alerts are accurate

He should always remember his results are around 95% accurate.

[Mr Gray]

He should always remember his results are around 95% accurate.

the dogs are not being scientifically tested imo...grime is not a scientist and his tests do not reach scientific standards..imo

[Robittybob1]

that was in controlled tests....its totally false to  extrapolate those figures into searches such as LUZ...if it was realistic then there MUST have been a cadaver in 5a...we all know the results do not prove a cadaver was in 5a

all grimes test show taht the dogs will alert to cadaver if it is present...the tests do not tell anything about how the dogs will react if cadaver isnt present

How did you come to that conclusion?  we all know the results do not prove a cadaver was in 5a

Training is covered on page 13/187.

[Mr Gray]

How did you come to that conclusion?  we all know the results do not prove a cadaver was in 5a

simple....look before you leap.....do the alerts prove there was a cadaver in 5a...its y or n

[Vertigo Swirl]

What about alerts that we’re not in such a place?

???

[Robittybob1]

simple....look before you leap.....do the alerts prove there was a cadaver in 5a...its y or n

You are like a frog with a weak leg, hopping around in circles.
I have finally found a section on  "case intelligence"  page #32/187.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

simple....look before you leap.....do the alerts prove there was a cadaver in 5a...its y or n

No it’s not that at all. What they do is indicate there is a high likelihood that there was. Then the CSI dog is used to try to find human blood and human cellular material in the areas that the dogs have indicated Lo and behold that’s exactly what happened.

[Mr Gray]

You are like a frog with a weak leg, hopping around in circles.
I have finally found a section on  "case intelligence"  page #32/187.

When you make a post like that it makes me realise I shouldn't bother to reply to any of your posts

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

???

The dogs alerted to objects that were not in 5A. They picked out a certain item of clothing, for example.

Besides Grime has absolutely nothing to gain from encouraging the dog to randomly bark in suspects property.