Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Mr Gray]

Police on Thursday revived their search for Etan Patz, a 6-year-old who disappeared in 1979 en route to a New York City bus stop, after a cadaver-sniffing dog recently detected the odor of human remains in a basement near Patz’s SoHo home. Can dogs really smell 33-year-old remains?

Yes, if you have the right dog.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2012/04/etan-patz-search-renewed-can-cadaver-dogs-smell-30-year-old-corpses.html

I looked at this case before...the dogs alerted to remains...not remnant scent

[Robittybob1]

No evidence to support it...the expert in the Redwine case doesn't agree

Cite please? 

[Robittybob1]

I looked at this case before...the dogs alerted to remains...not remnant scent

So were remains found?

[Mr Gray]

Cite please?

It's already been given...in her experience and opinion remnant scent may last only 1 week

There is no evidence to  support either opinion

[Mr Gray]

So were remains found?

I can't find anything now so it looks like more claim without any supporting evidence

[Robittybob1]

It's already been given...in her experience and opinion remnant scent may last only 1 week

There is no evidence to  support either opinion

OK that statement. 

[Mr Gray]

OK that statement.

Which statement

[Robittybob1]

Which statement

"in her experience and opinion remnant scent may last only 1 week"  To me in my experience of having to handle deceased animal that seems too short.  But you can prove it or disprove it?

[barrier]

It's already been given...in her experience and opinion remnant scent may last only 1 week

There is no evidence to  support either opinion

Then the judge having decided the evidence of the dog handlers to be able to be heard in the forthcoming trial is allowing a jury of peers to decide.

[Mr Gray]

"in her experience and opinion remnant scent may last only 1 week"  To me in my experience of having to handle deceased animal that seems too short.  But you can prove it or disprove it?

Can Grime or any dog handler prove their claims that remnant scent lasts 3 months...one year
She is highlighting the fact that they cannot
Why do you ask her to prove her claim but not grime

[Mr Gray]

Then the judge having decided the evidence of the dog handlers to be able to be heard in the forthcoming trial is allowing a jury of peers to decide.

The judge runs the risk of allowing unproven, unscientific evidence to be presented to the jury that could result in a mistrial

[barrier]

"in her experience and opinion remnant scent may last only 1 week"  To me in my experience of having to handle deceased animal that seems too short.  But you can prove it or disprove it?

This was presented at a pre trial hearing by the defence into whether dog evidence would be allowed,the judge obviously took little or no notice of this for he is to allow the dog evidence  to be presented in the upcoming trial.

[barrier]

The judge runs the risk of allowing unproven, unscientific evidence to be presented to the jury that could result in a mistrial

IYO

[Mr Gray]

IYO

Yes

[Robittybob1]

Can Grime or any dog handler prove their claims that remnant scent lasts 3 months...one year
She is highlighting the fact that they cannot
Why do you ask her to prove her claim but not grime

Any thought of leaving human bodies lying around  decomposing in the name of science seems to be out of the question.  It would be easy to do if there were plenty of cadaver dogs and no one cared what happened to the deceased.

I doubt if yo can retest the same dog at the same spot week after week.    Each week you'd need a new dog.