Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Eleanor]

Maybe he would have done without his 'handler'.

Look now, Eddie had been taught too many tricks, none of which could be forgotten.  He was always a bad bet as a Cadaver Dog, although never the fault of the dog.  Eddie was in fact an experiment.  And In My Opinion, Martin Grime grandstanded on the back of this dog.

[barrier]

Look now, Eddie had been taught too many tricks, none of which could be forgotten.  He was always a bad bet as a Cadaver Dog, although never the fault of the dog.  Eddie was in fact an experiment.  And In My Opinion, Martin Grime grandstanded on the back of this dog.

Still,many years on nothing to suggest Madeleine left 5a alive,even Redwood wouldn't confirm it,dogs or no dogs.

[barrier]

A set of grandparents resided in 5A permanently at one time.

I've no idea of the apartment's history along with the contents, do you?

And I've no idea how any odour transfers to inanimate objects and continues lingering even when the inanimate object is transferred elsewhere as above in the Shannon Matthews case.

No I don't but I'm not trying to make up different scenarios for the dog alerts.

In red,cite if you will please,not from the lead investigators,the press.

[Eleanor]

Still,many years on nothing to suggest Madeleine left 5a alive,even Redwood wouldn't confirm it,dogs or no dogs.

No one can confirm anything.  And certainly not Andy Redwood.  I only hope that Madeleine is alive and unharmed.  And so far I have seen nothing to suggest that she isn't.

At this stage hope is the only thing we have.

[Robittybob1]

How has Hi DE HO altered this video IYO?

All she has done is hosted the clip from a series previously shown on ITV.

What IYO did Eddie locate if it wasn't human remains?

Sea Bass bones?

The longer version - does it contain the Grime bit?  "Send in the Dogs - Season 1, Episode 1"  https://youtu.be/zFCt9gUq9XE  That one wasn't put onTouTube by Hi DE HO.

[Robittybob1]

Hideho for a start.  The cherry picking, innuendo promoting liar of all time.

A hand full of ground up 100 year old bones.  I wonder whose funeral urn they came from, if they are indeed what he says they are.  No provenance supplied.

And No, Jersey isn't part of The UK.

So what role does it play in Brexit? 

Wikipedia on Jersey:
"Jersey is not part of the United Kingdom,[16] and has an international identity separate from that of the UK,[17] but the UK is constitutionally responsible for the defence of Jersey.[18] The definition of United Kingdom in the British Nationality Act 1981 is interpreted as including the UK and the Islands together.[19] The European Commission have confirmed in a written reply to the European Parliament in 2003[20] that Jersey is within the Union as a European Territory for whose external relationships the UK is responsible. Jersey is not fully part of the European Union but has a special relationship with it, notably being treated as within the European Community for the purposes of free trade in goods."

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

https://www.btp.police.uk/PDF/FOI%20Response%201074-16%20-%20Police%20Dogs%20Manual%20of%20Guidance.pdf

ACPO training manual. Cadaver dog section starts at page 116. On page 117 you'll find listed what the dogs are trained with. The use of human cadaver/body parts was, and still is, illegal in UK, therefore a dog cannot be trained or tested to find those specific remains.

Thanks. Nevertheless research shows that dogs receiving that training can and successfully alert to cadaver odour with an accuracy rate of 92-100%. Eddie didn’t alert to cooked meat. And how come only the McCanns were subject to the alerts if they were all false (I.e not alerts to human cadaver odour)?

[Holly Goodhead]

No I don't but I'm not trying to make up different scenarios for the dog alerts.

According to the police, based on the Shannon Matthews case, the odour is transferrable on inanimate objects. If this is the case surely the scenarios are numerous as to why and how a dog would alert based on odour? 

In red,cite if you will please,not from the lead investigators,the press.

@ 2.30 in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkc3C6csaHI

The granddaughter. 

[Holly Goodhead]

Thanks. Nevertheless research shows that dogs receiving that training can and successfully alert to cadaver odour with an accuracy rate of 92-100%. Eddie didn’t alert to cooked meat. And how come only the McCanns were subject to the alerts if they were all false (I.e not alerts to human cadaver odour)?

Eddie may have alerted to odour transferred from elsewhere:

The properties the dogs searched contained a high level of second hand furniture bought from dwellings where someone had died.  This resulted in numerous indications that required further investigation to confirm whether they were connected to the investigation, or to previous owners of the furniture.

Page 25:

http://library.college.police.uk/docs/npia/Operation-Paris.pdf

[Holly Goodhead]

Still,many years on nothing to suggest Madeleine left 5a alive,even Redwood wouldn't confirm it,dogs or no dogs.

The search and rescue dogs tracked MM's scent away from the front door of 5A, along the car park in front of block 5, down the alley between block 4 and 5, along the alley between the apartments and pool and then across the road into the car park. 

There's nothing to suggest MM died in 5A.  The evidence points her carried away as above and placed into a car.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Look now, Eddie had been taught too many tricks, none of which could be forgotten.  He was always a bad bet as a Cadaver Dog, although never the fault of the dog.  Eddie was in fact an experiment.  And In My Opinion, Martin Grime grandstanded on the back of this dog.

That’s an incredibly strong accusation to make. It is also pure opinion and speculation.

[Robittybob1]

The search and rescue dogs tracked MM's scent away from the front door of 5A, along the car park in front of block 5, down the alley between block 4 and 5, along the alley between the apartments and pool and then across the road into the car park. 

There's nothing to suggest MM died in 5A.  The evidence points her carried away as above and placed into a car.

If Madeleine was being carried, that scent trail would happen whether dead (recently died) or alive.

Based on your claim "The evidence points her carried away as above and placed into a car."

[Holly Goodhead]

If Madeleine was being carried, that scent trail would happen whether dead (recently died) or alive.
Based on your claim "The evidence points her carried away as above and placed into a car."

Would it?  Do skin rafts work in the same way dead or alive?

Alive I believe.

[barrier]

The search and rescue dogs tracked MM's scent away from the front door of 5A, along the car park in front of block 5, down the alley between block 4 and 5, along the alley between the apartments and pool and then across the road into the car park. 

There's nothing to suggest MM died in 5A.  The evidence points her carried away as above and placed into a car.

Then took her to the hills and buried her,or do you think Redwood dug up the countryside just for something to do and waste a fair amount of budget in the process?

[Eleanor]

So what role does it play in Brexit? 

Wikipedia on Jersey:
"Jersey is not part of the United Kingdom,[16] and has an international identity separate from that of the UK,[17] but the UK is constitutionally responsible for the defence of Jersey.[18] The definition of United Kingdom in the British Nationality Act 1981 is interpreted as including the UK and the Islands together.[19] The European Commission have confirmed in a written reply to the European Parliament in 2003[20] that Jersey is within the Union as a European Territory for whose external relationships the UK is responsible. Jersey is not fully part of the European Union but has a special relationship with it, notably being treated as within the European Community for the purposes of free trade in goods."

Jersey is a separate entity, and governed by itself.  And was left to it's own devices when invaded by The Germans.  As was Alderney, Guernsey and Sark.  Known as The Chanel Islands.  More French than English.  Many people were slaughtered, including foreign prisoners of war.  Britain did nothing to help them.  The Tunnels dug by the prisoners are still a disgrace to humanity.

God alone knows what The British Police were doing there at Haut de la Garenne.  Even Martin Grime said that his dogs didn't need to be registered according to British Law, which his dogs weren't at the time.

Martin Grime copped 96,000 Pounds for that debacle.  Tis no wonder that he could afford to go to America.