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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Order of killings
« Reply #135 on: May 27, 2020, 12:08:55 PM »

BOOOOOOMMM!!!!

That was my head exploding. You made that happen, Rob.


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Maybe I wasn't clear enough.   A dog will normally be at the door when someone is outside trying to get in.
But if there was someone hiding in the house the dog may have stuck close to the person hiding, but when the police came in it would have come from the general direction of the person's hideout.

So from which direction did the dog come from?  Which room?
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Offline The General

Re: Order of killings
« Reply #136 on: May 27, 2020, 12:21:32 PM »
Maybe I wasn't clear enough.   A dog will normally be at the door when someone is outside trying to get in.
But if there was someone hiding in the house the dog may have stuck close to the person hiding, but when the police came in it would have come from the general direction of the person's hideout.

So from which direction did the dog come from?  Which room?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Order of killings
« Reply #137 on: May 27, 2020, 12:57:31 PM »
Mate, everyone was dead! The dog was shitting itself under a bed.
It is a bit surprising the shooter didn't finish the dog off as well.
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Offline The General

Re: Order of killings
« Reply #138 on: May 27, 2020, 01:09:53 PM »
It is a bit surprising the shooter didn't finish the dog off as well.
I believe all rounds were expended, 25 in total - so 10 in the mag, 1 in the breach, reload fully once, reload partially with the final 4. (IIRC)
I'm sure he could have gone and retrieved a few more and dispatched Crispy - but that's time consuming and pointless.
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Offline Caroline

Re: Order of killings
« Reply #139 on: May 27, 2020, 02:55:11 PM »
I wonder where the dog cane from?

Well, you see, there is a mummy doggy and a daddy doggy and when they like each other very much .......

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Re: Order of killings
« Reply #140 on: May 27, 2020, 05:07:59 PM »



When the house was surrounded by over 50 police officers, who all believed according to Jeremy, that Sheila was inside with a gun holding her family hostage, so they were all actively LOOKING for a gun. Police are human beings and as nervous as anyone else.

The PC, who wasn’t a firearms officer, “thought” she saw something that “could” have been a gun leaning by a window.

In the event, when the armed raid team broke in soon after, there was no gun there at all. It was simply a trick of the PC’s imagination as she actively looked for one whilst standing outside.

The police went all through the house and the only gun they found was the one Jeremy had staged on Sheila’s lap.

Sheila had clearly been dead for many hours as she had liver mortis, blue mottling on her left arm, back and posterior, and was entering rigor mortis. Everyone else had been dead several hours too.

There were guns in Nevill’s gun cupboard, which hadn’t been touched by Sheila, including old broken guns in a store room filled with the usual broken things people sometimes store before dumping them...but there was no gun by the window. It was simply a shape of something resembling one that put the young PC on high alert as she was looking for one.

That’s all. Simple as that.

And it was established too.

So, first there is movement at the window, which is thought to be a person, but which is later dismissed as a "trick of the light" (or something to that effect).  Then, there is a gun by a window, and that turned out to be a trick of somebody's imagination too. Not a gun, it just looked like a gun???

No wonder some of us ask questions!

Offline APRIL

Re: Order of killings
« Reply #141 on: May 27, 2020, 05:24:05 PM »
Well, you see, there is a mummy doggy and a daddy doggy and when they like each other very much .......


.......One and one often result in several more than two!

Offline Brietta

Re: Order of killings
« Reply #142 on: May 27, 2020, 05:29:14 PM »
So, first there is movement at the window, which is thought to be a person, but which is later dismissed as a "trick of the light" (or something to that effect).  Then, there is a gun by a window, and that turned out to be a trick of somebody's imagination too. Not a gun, it just looked like a gun???

No wonder some of us ask questions!

The officers who thought they saw movement checked it out at the time and if I'm not mistaken, in Bamber's presence ... they ascertained that there definitely was no human movement involved as they replicated the effect of movement and it was a reflection on the glass.

They did question what they thought they saw ... at the time ... they checked it ... at the time ... and by doing so ruled it out.

I don't see what there is to question about that.
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Offline Caroline

Re: Order of killings
« Reply #143 on: May 27, 2020, 06:28:57 PM »
So, first there is movement at the window, which is thought to be a person, but which is later dismissed as a "trick of the light" (or something to that effect).  Then, there is a gun by a window, and that turned out to be a trick of somebody's imagination too. Not a gun, it just looked like a gun???

No wonder some of us ask questions!

That is what Jeapes said - she saw what 'appeared' to be a rifle. Remember, these officers were on high alert because they thought there was someone armed with a rifle obviously that is going to influence them.

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Re: Order of killings
« Reply #144 on: May 27, 2020, 06:55:23 PM »
The officers who thought they saw movement checked it out at the time and if I'm not mistaken, in Bamber's presence ... they ascertained that there definitely was no human movement involved as they replicated the effect of movement and it was a reflection on the glass.

They did question what they thought they saw ... at the time ... they checked it ... at the time ... and by doing so ruled it out.

I don't see what there is to question about that.

I was commenting more on the fact that there were two separate  sightings that, apparently, turned out to be mistakes.

Offline Caroline

Re: Order of killings
« Reply #145 on: May 27, 2020, 07:33:42 PM »
I was commenting more on the fact that there were two separate  sightings that, apparently, turned out to be mistakes.

They weren't mistakes, just in a heightened situation adrenalin takes over. We don't have all of the CS pictures and none of the box room. There may be a completely reasonable explanation. Did you ever wonder that what has been put in the public domaine is quite deliberate in order creat a specific point of view?

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Order of killings
« Reply #146 on: May 27, 2020, 09:07:55 PM »
Just seen a certain somebody from here has been interacting with JB in prison. Really does explain everything. Absolutely priceless!!

Who’s that, Gadget?😳
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Re: Order of killings
« Reply #147 on: May 27, 2020, 09:14:41 PM »
They weren't mistakes, just in a heightened situation adrenalin takes over. We don't have all of the CS pictures and none of the box room. There may be a completely reasonable explanation. Did you ever wonder that what has been put in the public domaine is quite deliberate in order creat a specific point of view?

I think I understand what you're getting at, and yes, of course you may well be right.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Order of killings
« Reply #148 on: May 27, 2020, 10:28:44 PM »
Well, you see, there is a mummy doggy and a daddy doggy and when they like each other very much .......
Crunch    crunch ....
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Order of killings
« Reply #149 on: May 27, 2020, 10:32:00 PM »
So, first there is movement at the window, which is thought to be a person, but which is later dismissed as a "trick of the light" (or something to that effect).  Then, there is a gun by a window, and that turned out to be a trick of somebody's imagination too. Not a gun, it just looked like a gun???

No wonder some of us ask questions!
And didn't someone mention a basement?    Do the police inspecting the house on the 7th go into a basement?
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