How Did JB Commit The Killings

[barrier]

The JFK reconstruction showed where the shooter and JFK were located using bullet trajectory analysis.  As we know this bullet travelled some distance.

A reconstruction at WHF will be based on the same principles albeit the distances are much shorter which provides for even greater accuracy as you don't have to contend with any air resistance and drag.

Why do you think the pathologist provided information about the trajectories of the gunshot wounds and wound tracks if they have no meaning?

Why do you think all the casings were photographed at soc?

Why do you think the blood stains to floors were photographed/documented and tested?

Why do you think info re the distance of shots was made available?

The fact the above hasn't to date been pulled together to reconstruct what happened based on the physical evidence/scientific facts doesn't mean its not going to happen in the future.

Why do you think it'll cast doubt on JB rather than reinforce his guilt?

[Holly Goodhead]

It wouldn’t be the first time.  How did the Bamber’s pub acquaintance  come up with such a similar account as JM’s when called in for questioning?  Was he in on the conspiracy to get JB?

I think you are referring to Charles Marsden who JB considered a friend.

What did Charles Marsden tell the jury?

[Holly Goodhead]

Why do you think it'll cast doubt on JB rather than reinforce his guilt?

Because imo the physical evidence supports the reconstruction I've explained which lends support to a tel call/JB.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The JFK reconstruction showed where the shooter and JFK were located using bullet trajectory analysis.  As we know this bullet travelled some distance.

A reconstruction at WHF will be based on the same principles albeit the distances are much shorter which provides for even greater accuracy as you don't have to contend with any air resistance and drag.

Why do you think the pathologist provided information about the trajectories of the gunshot wounds and wound tracks if they have no meaning?

Why do you think all the casings were photographed at soc?

Why do you think the blood stains to floors were photographed/documented and tested?

Why do you think info re the distance of shots was made available?

The fact the above hasn't to date been pulled together to reconstruct what happened based on the physical evidence/scientific facts doesn't mean its not going to happen in the future.

Where did I say “they have no meaning”?  What is stopping you recreating all of this in your own home, videoing it and posting it on here for us all?  If you think it will prove Jeremy couldn’t possibly have committed the crime then let’s understand why not.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think you are referring to Charles Marsden who JB considered a friend.

What did Charles Marsden tell the jury?

I haven’t got to that bit yet.  I have just read his statement to the police when brought in for questioning.  Did he change his tune?

[Holly Goodhead]

Certainly, I find such an exercise distasteful in the extreme. However, in Holly's defence, it's what barristers do on a daily basis. As Alex McBride says in "Defending The Guilty", they're not interested in innocence or guilt -in fact, they'd prefer not to know- it's about being able to present a jury with a story they'll buy.

And its what prosecuting counsel do too.  They go to court to secure convictions not acquitalls

[Holly Goodhead]

I haven’t got to that bit yet.  I have just read his statement to the police when brought in for questioning.  Did he change his tune?

He didn't testify. 

You will find nearly all witnesses incl JB were dealt with almost single handedly by DS Jones.  Same officer who was responsible for the silencer.  Same officer who was the only dissenter from day 1.  Same officer who told a Sky drama/docu that he knew JB had committed the killings but he just had to pray something would turn up to prove him right!  And it did turn up by way of JM and the silencer both of which he was closely involved in.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

No expert is on record claiming JB committed the murders. The pathologist has always made clear he was unable to say one way or the other whether SC was murdered or took her own life.

The most damning evidence at trial came from the so-called ballistics expert Malcolm Fletcher who told the court his relevant experience included 13 years working in the firearms department and "a small amount of experience of having an air rifle as a small boy".  All the other experts referred to high level qualifications, experience and membership of professional bodies.

He might have been competent to provide reliable evidence to the court about routine ballistic matters but there was no way he was competent to provide the sort of evidence he did which ventured into the pathology of gunshot wounds and explaining how blood from a contact gunshot wound could deposit inside a silencer.

Who are you to say the ballistics expert, Malcolm Fletcher wasn’t experienced enough to provide evidence?

You’ve never fired a gun in your life, Holly. You’re not trained in forensics, ballistics, law, medicine...yet you come here saying who you think is inexperienced despite the court having total confidence in these EXPERTS!

You don’t have the knowledge or experience to make such damning comments when you’re totally uneducated in these matters.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Before I worked out the shooting reconstruction I wasn't entirely convinced but now I'm sure of his innocence.

Have you written to the court of appeal and told them you’ve worked it out, Holly?🧐

[Holly Goodhead]

Where did I say “they have no meaning”?  What is stopping you recreating all of this in your own home, videoing it and posting it on here for us all?  If you think it will prove Jeremy couldn’t possibly have committed the crime then let’s understand why not.

My home isn't WHF.  The reconstructions I uploaded JFK and Tony Martin were based at soc.

I've said what I think a reconstruction will show.  Can you not look at the layout diagram of WHF and all the info I've highlighted and work it out in your mind's eye?  It's not something you can latch onto in 5 mins.  You have to piece it together like a jigsaw puzzle and it takes time.

It helps if you forget about thinking JB or SC and just focus literally on fitting the pieces together.

When I have time I'll pull all the info together and you can see what you make of it? 

[ISpyWithMyEye]

It wouldn’t be the first time.  How did the Bamber’s pub acquaintance  come up with such a similar account as JM’s when called in for questioning?  Was he in on the conspiracy to get JB?

People have been known to tell people they’d like to “bump their partners off” , kill them, words to that effect...and people have dismissed it.

Some people have tried to hire hitmen to kill their spouse, and have often been given away by the hitman when he’s considered it too evil...that’s why NO hitman would have killed The Bamber family. Even hitmen have morals...

[Vertigo Swirl]

He didn't testify. 

You will find nearly all witnesses incl JB were dealt with almost single handedly by DS Jones.  Same officer who was responsible for the silencer.  Same officer who was the only dissenter from day 1.  Same officer who told a Sky drama/docu that he knew JB had committed the killings but he just had to pray something would turn up to prove him right!  And it did turn up by way of JM and the silencer both of which he was closely involved in.

What are you suggesting?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Certainly, I find such an exercise distasteful in the extreme. However, in Holly's defence, it's what barristers do on a daily basis. As Alex McBride says in "Defending The Guilty", they're not interested in innocence or guilt -in fact, they'd prefer not to know- it's about being able to present a jury with a story they'll buy.

But Holly isn’t a barrister, April — she isn’t getting paid to defend him.

Which begs the question: what’s her fascination with him?

[Vertigo Swirl]

My home isn't WHF.  The reconstructions I uploaded JFK and Tony Martin were based at soc.

I've said what I think a reconstruction will show.  Can you not look at the layout diagram of WHF and all the info I've highlighted and work it out in your mind's eye?  It's not something you can latch onto in 5 mins.  You have to piece it together like a jigsaw puzzle and it takes time.

It helps if you forget about thinking JB or SC and just focus literally on fitting the pieces together.

When I have time I'll pull all the info together and you can see what you make of it?

Holly, can you definitively state that it is impossible for Jeremy Bamber to have shot NB from a position above him?  If so, why?  I can think of numerous scenarios which has Bamber towering over Nevill, how would you be able to prove none of them happened using a reconstruction?

[Holly Goodhead]

Who are you to say the ballistics expert, Malcolm Fletcher wasn’t experienced enough to provide evidence?

You’ve never fired a gun in your life, Holly. You’re not trained in forensics, ballistics, law, medicine...yet you come here saying who you think is inexperienced despite the court having total confidence in these EXPERTS!

You don’t have the knowledge or experience to make such damning comments when you’re totally uneducated in these matters.

Experts demonstrate their competence through qualifications in large part.  What qualifications did MF possess at trial that made him competent and suitable to provide the court with reliable testimony over matters involving very complex ballistics?