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Offline G-Unit

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #255 on: May 09, 2020, 08:56:45 AM »
Narcissism is a feature of psychopathy, agreed? 

“Narcissists lack a mature conscience and are only restrained by the fear of being punished or having their reputations damaged. However, they will do something illegal, immoral, or violent if they believe that they can get away with it without being stopped or punished. Most narcissists truly don't feel responsible for their actions. They have convinced themselves that they are the victims of injustice, discrimination or prejudice”.

No, narcissism isn't a feature of psychopathy, it's a different condition, although there are similarities between the two.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/spycatcher/201712/narcissist-or-psychopath-how-can-you-tell
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #256 on: May 09, 2020, 09:11:41 AM »
No, narcissism isn't a feature of psychopathy, it's a different condition, although there are similarities between the two.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/spycatcher/201712/narcissist-or-psychopath-how-can-you-tell
Pyschopaths are just narcissists to the nth degree, with added predatory and often violent tendencies, that’s how it reads to me.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #257 on: May 09, 2020, 09:13:18 AM »
What Is a Psychopath Compared to a Narcissist?

According to the Society for the Scientific Study of Psychopathy, narcissism is an interpersonal symptom of psychopathy. Indeed, symptoms of narcissism like grandiosity, exploitive behavior and a lack of empathy are common in psychopaths. A psychopath could, and likely would, easily fit the diagnosis for narcissistic personality disorder as well, therefore, psychopaths are narcissists. (Relationship Between Psychopathy and Personality Disorders)

https://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/psychopath/the-narcissistic-psychopath-are-narcissists-psychopaths
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #258 on: May 09, 2020, 09:46:04 AM »
It seems like that to you, perhaps. In the real world these examples are not evidence of psychopathy.


Shooting two little boys dead is, though...

As is killing your parents and sister for MONEY

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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #259 on: May 09, 2020, 09:47:57 AM »
Don't exaggerate. Colin Caffell, who knew June Bamber, called her a monster. Lacking empathy does not a psychopath make.

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Offline APRIL

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #260 on: May 09, 2020, 10:06:52 AM »
Her source was Wilkes and she points out that a real belief in their own innocence isn't a recognised psychopathic tendency, even though the psychiatrist allegedly referred to it as Bamber's chief symptom. That trait isn't mentioned in any of the literature on psychopathy that I have read.


However, their grandiose view of their own self importance would suggest that they would. A rose by any other name..........

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #261 on: May 09, 2020, 10:12:55 AM »
It’s a personality disorder, not a mental illness imo.  What mental illnesses have monetary greed and extreme self-centredness and violence at their root?


You’re right, VS

Psychopathy is not a mental illness

It’s a Personality Disorder, which is different. It’s also incurable and untreatable.

Some psychopathic murderers who’ve killed children for sex can be chemically castrated, but it doesn’t treat the desire. They will still be attracted to children. In just the way an alcoholic who stops drinking will always struggle with their desire for alcohol, so will sexual deviants, paedophiles, serial rapists etc...


With Jeremy Bamber’s psychopathy there are no drugs that can give him empathy, normal emotions, or a conscience. He is like a living “dead” person and nothing can change the wiring of his brain. He doesn’t need chemically castrating as sex wasn’t his motive to kill: his motive was greed and lust for money, power and control — which he still to this day displays. If a minority of people can’t see he hasn’t changed after almost half a century, it’s no wonder people fall by the wayside when trying to help them understand what they’re dealing with, and how he ends up hurting them once he has no further use of them.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #262 on: May 09, 2020, 10:35:03 AM »
Cite please

Rainbows End page 758 (Kindle). A 'religious monster' he called June.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #263 on: May 09, 2020, 12:01:26 PM »
If you look back you'll find it wasn't me who took the thread off topic; I responded to the person who did that.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11464.msg588828#msg588828

I didn't comment on AA's theory because I had nothing to say. I don't have enough knowledge of Nevill Bamber's life or business practices to comment. All I've seen is a suggestion that he wasn't universally loved and respected, which is not surprising considering that he was a successful businessman and a JP.

Haha, I read and head the very opposite

Nevill was very well respected — immensely so

He was revered, in fact


He was also well-liked and popular due tipoffs him being friendly, gregarious, welcoming, enjoying a party, company, drinks with friends...

You’ve said the complete opposite 😂
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #264 on: May 09, 2020, 12:02:55 PM »
I'm as knowledgeable on his life as you are. Taking all the bad things people have said about him he could be a psychopath. A lot of those things, however, were said by people with a motive to paint him in the worst possible light in my opinion.

No-one needs a motive to paint him in any light...he did that himself when he killed his family
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #265 on: May 09, 2020, 12:05:29 PM »
It's a fact that he was classified as such by someone who was qualified to state it. You're even denying that!


Is it worth discussing with someone who refuses to see?🙈
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #266 on: May 09, 2020, 12:08:38 PM »
How can anyone interpret the following as evidence of psychopathy?

Not THAT again, please....zzzz

We’re discussing his diagnoses when on remand

Please try and keep up with the discussion:  it’s wearying reading the sam etching repeatedly
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #267 on: May 09, 2020, 12:10:31 PM »
You are completely wrong. Colin Caffell told the story about the tricks paid on the reps. [w/s 11/9/85]

Cite please
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #268 on: May 09, 2020, 12:11:57 PM »
No, narcissism isn't a feature of psychopathy, it's a different condition, although there are similarities between the two.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/spycatcher/201712/narcissist-or-psychopath-how-can-you-tell

What on Earth have you been reading?

Narcissism is a TRAIT of psychopathy!


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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #269 on: May 09, 2020, 12:13:57 PM »
Also, the psychiatrist in also mentioned by CAL so the reference is good enough for her!

Gunit and Holly don’t want to believe Consultant Psychiatrits.

How odd....
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