Why were they all at the White House that night? Colin Caffell's alibi?

[APRIL]

There’s thinking out of the box, and then there’s just plain absurdity.  Can we not do this?  Hasn’t the man suffered enough without being put in the frame for murders he very clearly and obviously had nothing to do with?

Sorry. Though in no way was I implying any involvement on his part, nor did I sense any from Brancher or I wouldn't have responded.

[mrswah]

There’s thinking out of the box, and then there’s just plain absurdity.  Can we not do this?  Hasn’t the man suffered enough without being put in the frame for murders he very clearly and obviously had nothing to do with?

Rob is just learning about the case and asking questions, and that's perfectly reasonable, IMO.

I bet the police questioned Colin re his alibi.

[Brietta]

Are you referring to Jeremy Bamber's first statement?  What was the date of that and is it available to be read?

I'm talking about Bamber's ringside seat at the crime scene and the use he made of it.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Rob is just learning about the case and asking questions, and that's perfectly reasonable, IMO.

I bet the police questioned Colin re his alibi.

Why would they?  They were convinced Sheila did it, until they realised it was much more likely to be Jeremy.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Rob is just learning about the case and asking questions, and that's perfectly reasonable, IMO.

I bet the police questioned Colin re his alibi.

If Rob wants to know more about the case perhaps he should watch the series or read one of the several good books on the subject, rather than starting threads asking such questions?

[Caroline]

If Rob wants to know more about the case perhaps he should watch the series or read one of the several good books on the subject, rather than starting threads asking such questions?

Good advice.

[Caroline]

I think (but I'm not certain) that he lived with his then-girlfriend, Heather, so I would think his whereabouts would be confirmed by her, if they needed to be.  He drove back home from Essex to London a few days before the incident and was at home when the news was broken to him by two WPCs, who visited him.

If Jeremy did this, then Colin Caffell is the biggest surviving victim of the incident and he ought to have everybody's unqualified sympathy.  I must admit - and I feel slightly ashamed to say this - I have never been able to feel complete sympathy for him, though.  I'm not sure why.  I can't put my finger on it, but I've never taken to him.  I have always thought there is something fundamentally disingenuous about him. 

But a murderer?  No.  No way.  Impressions aside, he had no motive at all, I think he loved the twins, and he did not have (nor does he have) any significant mental health issues, to anyone's knowledge.  Has he any knowledge of or association with guns at all or even ever fired a gun?  I'd be surprised.  He's just a normal man caught up in it, and quite genial.  I struggle to even imagine him losing his temper, never mind murdering anybody.

New angles are welcome, though, so if you have one, let's hear it.  Putting my legal hat on, I would take great care when making novel accusations against specific surviving individuals.  It's one thing to 'do a Mike' and say David Boutflour was the Hunched Man, or whatever - I doubt the English libel courts will be much interested, either way - it's quite another thing to accuse a harmless, genial, naive sculptor who's done generous rehabilitation work in prison with lifers of being a murderer himself.

I think some get carried away and forget that these are real people who suffered real loss - Colin more than anyone. Colin never was a suspect and never should have been. I'm a bit astounded that someone would even suggest it.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

That's kind, thank you, but I feel slightly ashamed of myself for not completely taking to him, given that he has been horribly victimised here.  He's a man who, in every facet of his being, cries out to be liked, but I can't like him.  Is there something wrong with me or have my spidey-senses picked up something off-key about him?  I tend to be right in my 'gut' judgement about people, for reasons I won't go into. 

But he's not a fundamentally bad man, let alone a murderer, I'm convinced of that.  Indeed, the very question is surely superfluous.

By all accounts he’s a hugely popular man with a large circle of friends....he was possibly naive when he was young (I’m sure you were too), but he’s made a very good life for himself considering the horrific trauma he had to endure of losing his two sons to a greedy, gutless psychopath

You certainly have a “gift” if you can decide by your gut instincts whether you like someone or not, without never having met them...perhaps you should put your extraordinary gift to use 🙂

[Brancher]

By all accounts he’s a hugely popular man with a large circle of friends....he was possibly naive when he was young (I’m sure you were too), but he’s made a very good life for himself considering the horrific trauma he had to endure of losing his two sons to a greedy, gutless psychopath

You certainly have a “gift” if you can decide by your gut instincts whether you like someone or not, without never having met them...perhaps you should put your extraordinary gift to use 🙂

Literally every single poster on this Forum is expressing views one way or another about people they have never met.

[mrswah]

Why would they?  They were convinced Sheila did it, until they realised it was much more likely to be Jeremy.

Colin does say, in his book, that, at first, he felt the police could be looking at him as a suspect. That is why I said they might well have asked him where he was that night. Of course, they would have been happy with his answer.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Colin does say, in his book, that, at first, he felt the police could be looking at him as a suspect. That is why I said they might well have asked him where he was that night. Of course, they would have been happy with his answer.

Fair enough.  I haven’t read his book yet.

[mrswah]

Fair enough.  I haven’t read his book yet.

It's worth a read---interesting to hear his take on the relationship between Jeremy and Sheila and their parents.

[Caroline]

Colin does say, in his book, that, at first, he felt the police could be looking at him as a suspect. That is why I said they might well have asked him where he was that night. Of course, they would have been happy with his answer.

Colin was never a suspect.

[Robittybob1]

There’s thinking out of the box, and then there’s just plain absurdity.  Can we not do this?  Hasn’t the man suffered enough without being put in the frame for murders he very clearly and obviously had nothing to do with?

All I'm asking is the question the police would have asked him .  Where was he on that night?  If his alibi was that he was with his girlfriend, that might be sufficient.

[Caroline]

All I asking is the question the police would have asked him .  Where was he on that night?  If his alibi was that he was with his girlfriend, that might be sufficient.

He was never a suspect.