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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1590 on: June 10, 2020, 07:13:56 PM »
You are wrong to state that DNA cannot last for 10 years. Do some research before trying to ridicule my posts. How did he abduct her?
Can you answer my question about the hundreds if not thousands of DNA profiles that there would have to be in Apartment 5 A if DNA lasts for a million years?  Did they test every single one of the thousands of DNA present? 
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 09:34:24 PM by Angelo222 »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1591 on: June 10, 2020, 07:15:17 PM »

Useful things, bodies - if you can find them.
Indeed.  That is why whoever took Madeleine obviously went to extraordinary lengths to get rid of her body, assuming she is dead of course (which I do).
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1592 on: June 10, 2020, 07:15:49 PM »
Only one study this author is aware of directly addresses the persistence of touch DNA.  Raymond et al (2009) conducted an investigation into the persistence of DNA at crime scenes.  They applied known quantities of “buffy coat” DNA (the white blood cell and platelet layer of whole blood) to gloss-painted wooden window frames, pieces of vinyl (to simulate handbags), and control samples consisting of glass microscope slides.  Not surprisingly, they found that the chance of recovering DNA from an outdoor crime scene decreases significantly over time with two weeks being the major drop-off point for most of the samples.  The control samples fared much better, with full profiles able to be developed even after six weeks (the longest time period tested).

http://ryanforensicdna.com/touchdna/

Unless Madeleine was bleeding when placed into a vehicle it is unlikely she would have left more than touch DNA and the chances of finding that in a car 10+ years later are very very very remote.  Now lets have less of the namecalling please.

That is an outdoor crime scene. They examined the inside of his vehicle. If she was inside as in an abduction they should have found DNA evidence.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1593 on: June 10, 2020, 07:16:51 PM »
You are wrong to state that DNA cannot last for 10 years. Do some research before trying to ridicule my posts. How did he abduct her?
Are you saying that because the police weren’t able to find Madeleine’s DNA in his car from 10+ years previously that it proves she was never in his car?
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 09:35:13 PM by Angelo222 »
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Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1594 on: June 10, 2020, 07:17:13 PM »
That is an outdoor crime scene. They examined the inside of his vehicle. If she was inside as in an abduction they should have found DNA evidence.

Hair would be the most obvious...if the root was still attached.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1595 on: June 10, 2020, 07:18:27 PM »
Indeed.  That is why whoever took Madeleine obviously went to extraordinary lengths to get rid of her body, assuming she is dead of course (which I do).

I use bins every day. Doesn't take an extraordinary effort on my part.
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Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1596 on: June 10, 2020, 07:20:52 PM »
Indeed.  That is why whoever took Madeleine obviously went to extraordinary lengths to get rid of her body, assuming she is dead of course (which I do).

Not necessarily, she might be fairly easy to find, provided you know where to look.
On the other hand she may have been destroyed in any number of ways, so no amount of searching would find her.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1597 on: June 10, 2020, 07:24:47 PM »
Are you saying that because the police weren’t able to find Madeleine’s DNA in his car from 10+ years previously that it proves she was never in his car?

They cannot prove it and they would get rid of incriminating vehicles/evidence and especially in this case that the whole world knows and is still active! Hamilton set his vehicle on fire to destroy evidence until Eddie examined it.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1598 on: June 10, 2020, 07:26:54 PM »
So why did Amaral talk about the jailed German paedophile to the Australian media in April of this year.
Well, IMO B to show how corrupt it all is - and it is.

Amaral, for the first time, admitted that Madeleine’s father was not involved in her disappearance. He was also adamant the suspect is not Martin Ney, but another pedophile in a German prison. Perhaps he was trying to regroup, knowing that his team at the time neglected to open-mindedly pursue leads beyond the McCann couple?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1599 on: June 10, 2020, 07:27:53 PM »
Amaral, for the first time, admitted that Madeleine’s father was not involved in her disappearance. He was also adamant the suspect is not Martin Ney, but another pedophile in a German prison. Perhaps he was trying to regroup, knowing that his team at the time neglected to open-mindedly pursue leads beyond the McCann couple?

I must have missed that bit.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1600 on: June 10, 2020, 07:28:12 PM »
Amaral, for the first time, admitted that Madeleine’s father was not involved in her disappearance. He was also adamant the suspect is not Martin Ney, but another pedophile in a German prison. Perhaps he was trying to regroup, knowing that his team at the time neglected to open-mindedly pursue leads beyond the McCann couple?

Care to provide a cite for your first sentence ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1601 on: June 10, 2020, 07:28:24 PM »
That is an outdoor crime scene. They examined the inside of his vehicle. If she was inside as in an abduction they should have found DNA evidence.
So outside touch DNA lasts a few weeks, but inside a car it lasts a million years.  OK Professor.  Now answer my question about the thousands of DNA profiles in Apartment 5A.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1602 on: June 10, 2020, 07:28:59 PM »
Can you answer my question about the hundreds if not thousands of DNA profiles that there would have to be in Apartment 5 A if DNA lasts for a million years?  Did they test every single one of the thousands of DNA present?
They tested samples taken from “stains” in areas where Keela alerted to the Presence of human blood. The exact list is documented in the PJ Files.


Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1603 on: June 10, 2020, 07:30:46 PM »
So outside touch DNA lasts a few weeks, but inside a car it lasts a million years.  OK Professor.  Now answer my question about the thousands of DNA profiles in Apartment 5A.

Probably because they didn't take samples from every inch of the apartment. Or in the case of the PJ every millimetre
« Last Edit: June 10, 2020, 07:33:20 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1604 on: June 10, 2020, 07:31:10 PM »
They tested samples taken from “stains” in areas where Keela alerted to the Presence of human blood. The exact list is documented in the PJ Files.

They were supposed to have swabbed every square millimetre of the entire apartment.

They failed Maddie  8()(((@#
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