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Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3450 on: June 27, 2020, 05:44:15 PM »
That's a very interesting video, worth watching all the way through even though most of it is in Portuguese.  Interviews mainly in English with Brueckner's former neighbours, Ruth Maclean and her daughter Rosie, plus a bit more info near the end on the American woman who was raped in Casa Jacaranda.

I am curious to know when the neighbours filed a Missing Persons report on him.
Rosie also confirmed that she heard loud sirens on the night of May 3rd sometime around 10.30pm which tends to support part of Murat's statement. However, 10.30pm was too early to have been the GNR on their way to Ocean Club.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3451 on: June 27, 2020, 05:46:23 PM »
I'm awaiting confirmation that the image is genuine & not CGI.

ETA Original source of image is here https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/goncalo-amaral-mostra-retrato-robo-de-suspeito-do-suspeito-do-caso-maddie-em-2007-que-desmente-versao-alema

It's a robot image presented by Amaral, not an actual photo of CB in 2007.

Give a man enough rope..........

We miss such a lot regarding what is going on in the Portuguese media if it isn't picked up by the tabloids here.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3452 on: June 27, 2020, 05:46:47 PM »
Agreed.  Personally, I am none too impressed with The Germans.

Nor the PJ, is it a thing against the police in general.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3453 on: June 27, 2020, 05:48:46 PM »
WOW!! Misty ... that is some video.  I wish I knew what all that paperwork was about.  Guess I'm just going to have to wait for Morais English interpretation of it all.

The paperwork relates to the 2 rape crime reports, victim DM in Praia da Luz & victim HB in Praia da Rocha. Also the paperwork for the theft of vehicle fuel & disobedience.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3454 on: June 27, 2020, 05:49:45 PM »
I haven’t followed this case so don’t know who Clarence Mitchell is.


I can’t answer why he never mentioned this in January 2008.


I can only speak from logic.

The man the Smithman family saw carrying a child resembles Gerry, undoubtedly. But the fact remains that all the family said they saw him at around 10pm. Gerry’s last trip to the apartment was, I believe, around 9PM?

They were doing half hourly checks, and I read the 9:30pm check was carried out by one of the Tapas 7, Matthew, who had the apartment next door and he said he’d check on the McCann’s too.

So from approximately 9:15pm until 10pm when Kate went to check and discovered Maddie missing, Gerry must have been inside the Tapas Bar otherwise the staff, friends, Kate and everyone else would have said he wasn’t , surely?

Not when you examine the statements and the waiter who served them said they had left by 9:50pm. That time is when Kate left to check according to Matt Oldfield. You would change the timeline to 10pm if you are involved because you had been seen!
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3455 on: June 27, 2020, 05:50:32 PM »
I haven’t followed this case so don’t know who Clarence Mitchell is.


I can’t answer why he never mentioned this in January 2008.


I can only speak from logic.

The man the Smithman family saw carrying a child resembles Gerry, undoubtedly. But the fact remains that all the family said they saw him at around 10pm. Gerry’s last trip to the apartment was, I believe, around 9PM?

They were doing half hourly checks, and I read the 9:30pm check was carried out by one of the Tapas 7, Matthew, who had the apartment next door and he said he’d check on the McCann’s too.

So from approximately 9:15pm until 10pm when Kate went to check and discovered Maddie missing, Gerry must have been inside the Tapas Bar otherwise the staff, friends, Kate and everyone else would have said he wasn’t , surely?

The staff don't confirm any such thing. Read their statements. One thinks that possibly by as early as 21:30 they'd all left the table (bar one person) to look for the missing girl. At least two of them talk about the "father" being absent for about "half an hour" during the evening in question.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3456 on: June 27, 2020, 05:54:51 PM »
The staff don't confirm any such thing. Read their statements. One thinks that possibly by as early as 21:30 they'd all left the table (bar one person) to look for the missing girl. At least two of them talk about the "father" being absent for about "half an hour" during the evening in question.
If you don’t accept the testimony of the McCanns’ friends regarding Gerry’s whereabouts at the time Kate raised the alarm then you would appear to believe they are ALL involved in a plot to cover up the death of a child.  Is that the case?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3457 on: June 27, 2020, 05:56:34 PM »
Did they bomb your chippy too?

They bombed a bit more than that.

But basically I don't understand what Concrete Evidence means.

Offline misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3458 on: June 27, 2020, 05:58:57 PM »
Agreed.  Personally, I am none too impressed with The Germans.

They have taken the bull by the horns & gone down an avenue PJ never could have by appealing on an international scale for historical information about CB. If Madeleine is ever to get justice then imo this is the only way it will happen. German police wouldn't be either insensitive or unprofessional enough to be just playing games with Madeleine's parents' emotions.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3459 on: June 27, 2020, 06:01:10 PM »
If you don’t accept the testimony of the McCanns’ friends regarding Gerry’s whereabouts at the time Kate raised the alarm then you would appear to believe they are ALL involved in a plot to cover up the death of a child.  Is that the case?


"All their friends had to be in on it" is the usual position taken by supporters.

It can never simply be that they were mistaken about the exact time.
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3460 on: June 27, 2020, 06:01:37 PM »
If you don’t accept the testimony of the McCanns’ friends regarding Gerry’s whereabouts at the time Kate raised the alarm then you would appear to believe they are ALL involved in a plot to cover up the death of a child.  Is that the case?

No, you are jumping to conclusions. I don't believe there is reliable evidence from either the friends or the staff at the Tapas to conclude that Smithman can't have been GM because he was at the Tapas Bar at the time of the Smith family sighting. The statements do not support such a conclusive assessment.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3461 on: June 27, 2020, 06:05:38 PM »
What?  Like Amaral you mean?  He said he could prove that Madeleine was dead.  But he never has.


From what I’ve read the Portuguese police were utterly inept.

I don’t get that impression with the German police officer in charge.
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Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3462 on: June 27, 2020, 06:05:52 PM »
They bombed a bit more than that.

But basically I don't understand what Concrete Evidence means.

The german saw the body, can't be much else surely?
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3463 on: June 27, 2020, 06:06:47 PM »

From what I’ve read the Portuguese police were utterly inept.

I don’t get that impression with the German police officer in charge.

Impressions can be misleading.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline The General

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #3464 on: June 27, 2020, 06:08:35 PM »
The german saw the body, can't be much else surely?
The parents must have been notified of the details of this latest development.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2020, 06:12:42 PM by Eleanor »
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