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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4050 on: June 29, 2020, 08:55:22 PM »
I'll let the stats do the talking:

Would you like to quote the stats for both countries... Should be interesting.... Or is it just more hot air

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4051 on: June 29, 2020, 08:55:48 PM »
Because they've got him and they don't trust The PJ.

It doesn't work like that Eleanor.  Consider the case of Montes captured in US but extradited to France to stand trial for the murder of British girl Caroline Dickinson murdered in France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Arce_Montes
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4052 on: June 29, 2020, 08:59:11 PM »
It doesn't work like that Eleanor.  Consider the case of Montes captured in US but extradited to France to stand trial for the murder of British girl Caroline Dickinson murdered in France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Arce_Montes

Germany has every right to try him as shown by the rape trial... I agree with Eleanor... The Portuguese can't be trusted

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4053 on: June 29, 2020, 08:59:27 PM »
Nonsense. Madeleine never left the apartment from 5:30 until the disappearance. Their kids did not go out to play for the first time that night! Every evening they went to the play area except for 3 May 2007. Do some research!
Because the children were tired? Have you considered that someone could have given the Mccann children something, like a sweet, in the same way Brückner handed them out at his kiosk in Brünswcik, next to a creche and primary school?

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4054 on: June 29, 2020, 08:59:42 PM »
It doesn't work like that Eleanor.  Consider the case of Montes captured in US but extradited to France to stand trial for the murder of British girl Caroline Dickinson murdered in France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Arce_Montes

Actually, I was joking, sort of.  But I wouldn't half like to see The PJ trying to get him back, especially as they missed two Rapes and failed to clock that he was a convicted Paedophile.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4055 on: June 29, 2020, 09:01:07 PM »
Not sure there is any hard evidence of that. Can you provide a cite ?


https://youtu.be/IXsXXxRek2Q
Seeking Justice for June & Nevill Bamber, Sheila Caffell & her two six-year-old twin boys who were shot dead in their heads by Psychopath, JEREMY BAMBER who must NEVER be released.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4056 on: June 29, 2020, 09:03:25 PM »
Because they've got him and they don't trust The PJ.

Exactly

And they also strongly suspect he’s killed German children too
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4057 on: June 29, 2020, 09:03:31 PM »
I’m not — it’s you that’s wrong.

Hair is frequently tested for all sorts of things; drugs, food, alcohol...lots of things.

That’s not my opinion — it’s a FACT.


Yes, Fenergan can, in RARE cases have side effects, but Madeleine wasn’t given any. She didn’t need it.

Pamela Fenn who lived above heard Madeleine awake crying on Tuesday night from 10:30 to 11:45pm. She had a star chart at home because of her sleeping patterns!

Madeleine would often get up in the night and go and sleep in the same bed as err Kate and Gerry so I think their sleep patterns were pretty disturbed
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4058 on: June 29, 2020, 09:05:50 PM »
Nonsense. Madeleine never left the apartment from 5:30 until the disappearance. Their kids did not go out to play for the first time that night! Every evening they went to the play area except for 3 May 2007. Do some research!

I’ve done research

I suggest you learn to decipher what people write

I never said Maddie left the apartment after 5:30pm

You’ve misread...
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4059 on: June 29, 2020, 09:07:40 PM »
If the Germans have "concrete evidence" why are they seeking info via public appeals re tel numbers and vehicles some 13 years after the event?


He only came onto the radar re Madeleine two years ago...

I thought you followed this case?
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4060 on: June 29, 2020, 09:18:31 PM »
Pamela Fenn who lived above heard Madeleine awake crying on Tuesday night from 10:30 to 11:45pm. She had a star chart at home because of her sleeping patterns!

Madeleine would often get up in the night and go and sleep in the same bed as err Kate and Gerry so I think their sleep patterns were pretty disturbed
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm


So what?

They obviously didn’t give her any medicines throughout the week if a neighbour heard her crying...

Neither did they on the night the paedophile was lurking outside the apartment
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4061 on: June 29, 2020, 09:20:55 PM »
I’ve done research

I suggest you learn to decipher what people write

I never said Maddie left the apartment after 5:30pm

You’ve misread...

I said she could have left anytime after 5:30 because that was the last independent witness sighting. Another theory could be that she didn't go back to their apartment at all and went elsewhere but from evidence I don't believe that happened.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2020, 09:23:50 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4062 on: June 29, 2020, 09:29:01 PM »

So what?

They obviously didn’t give her any medicines throughout the week if a neighbour heard her crying...

Neither did they on the night the paedophile was lurking outside the apartment

If you've done research you should know that the Moyes were out on their balcony above the apartment from around 9:15 for about 30 minutes and saw nobody lurking outside! You always seem to be missing crucial evidence. My theory - Madeleine left the apartment before 9:15 but I will not give an exact time yet but I have it!
« Last Edit: June 29, 2020, 09:34:30 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4063 on: June 29, 2020, 09:58:15 PM »

You can’t have apnoea for four minutes — you'd then be brain dead.

Hypoxia is lack of oxygen, but isn’t necessarily life-threatening.

A brain injury wouldn’t necessarily affect your airways, either.

It’s irrelevant, anyway, as Madeleine didn’t fall and fracture her skull — she was abducted.

You have yet to show us any evidence that she was abducted.

Do some more research. I've worked in critical care for 30 years. If someone is unconscious they can lose control of their airway (particularly so in children because of their anatomical differences with adults), the tongue could cause an obstruction of the upper airway or the regurgitation of semi digested food could cause airway obstruction (why do you think people are nil by mouth before an anaesthetic?). If a person's airway is totally obstructed (not uncommon after head injury) the resultant lack of oxygen to vital organs (hypoxia) would be critical after four or five minutes. The lack of oxygen to the heart would cause cardiac arrest after about four of five minutes of apnoea. Children become hypoxic much faster than adults. It's fantasy to pretend that death after unconsciousness caused by a head injury isn't a possibility after four to five minutes.

The sedative properties of phenergan are not a rare side effect. They are expected in a normal dose. I've met  medics who openly use phenergan for travel sickness in children knowing they are going to have a very peaceful journey.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4064 on: June 29, 2020, 10:06:17 PM »
Not according to the Mc's

http://findmadeleine.com/updates/index.html
With respect to the McCanns, it’s likely the German police know more about the evidence than they do at this stage.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".