New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Mr Gray]

You have yet to show us any evidence that she was abducted.

Do some more research. I've worked in critical care for 30 years. If someone is unconscious they can lose control of their airway (particularly so in children because of their anatomical differences with adults), the tongue could cause an obstruction of the upper airway or the regurgitation of semi digested food could cause airway obstruction (why do you think people are nil by mouth before an anaesthetic?). If a person's airway is totally obstructed (not uncommon after head injury) the resultant lack of oxygen to vital organs (hypoxia) would be critical after four or five minutes. The lack of oxygen to the heart would cause cardiac arrest after about four of five minutes of apnoea. Children become hypoxic much faster than adults. It's fantasy to pretend that death after unconsciousness caused by a head injury isn't a possibility after four to five minutes.

The sedative properties of phenergan are not a rare side effect. They are expected in a normal dose. I've met  medics who openly use phenergan for travel sickness in children knowing they are going to have a very peaceful journey.

Could you give me one example anywhere in the world of s child dying in minutes from a head injury in a domestic accident...the effects of a subdural haematoma take hours

[Vertigo Swirl]

Scotland Yard is calling it a missing person case NOT a murder case! Or maybe they have done new tests from crime scene evidence to know that she is dead!

There isn’t a test that could be run to prove she was dead without a body and you must surely know this!

[Robittybob1]

There isn’t a test that could be run to prove she was dead without a body and you must surely know this!

Even a photo would not be good enough as we could be dealing with a lookalike child.  I'm really amazed how two siblings can look alike e.g. the Caffell twins (Bamber case) where even members of the family couldn't tell them apart.
My theory all along has been that there were two girls who looked so alike and no one has been able to tell them apart.
The photo we often see portrayed as Madeleine McCann IMO all along has been that girl isn't MM.

This is not Madeleine, IMO

So I hope that Kate and Gerry resist just agreeing with the Germans that they have some sort of photographic proof that Madeleine is dead. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

sigh

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Could you give me one example anywhere in the world of s child dying in minutes from a head injury in a domestic accident...the effects of a subdural haematoma take hours

Give me one example of a very young child being abducted from a holiday apartment by a stranger!

With regards to head injury and airway obstruction:

https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/000067.htm

Causes

The airway can become narrowed or blocked due to many causes, including:

    Allergic reactions in which the trachea or throat swell closed, including allergic reactions to a bee sting, peanuts, antibiotics (such as penicillin), and blood pressure medicines (such as ACE inhibitors)
    Chemical burns and reactions
    Epiglottitis (infection of the structure separating the trachea from the esophagus)
    Fire or burns from breathing in smoke
    Foreign bodies, such as peanuts and other breathed-in foods, pieces of a balloon, buttons, coins, and small toys
    Infections of the upper airway area
    Injury to the upper airway area
    Peritonsillar abscess (collection of infected material near the tonsils)
    Poisoning from certain substances, such as strychnine
    Retropharyngeal abscess (collection of infected material in the back of the airway)
    Severe asthma attack
    Throat cancer
    Tracheomalacia (weakness of the cartilage that supports the trachea)
    Vocal cord problems
    Passing out or being unconscious

Plenty more reading for you on this subject:

 "AIRWAY  PATENCY  IN  THE  UNCONSCIOUS  PATIENT. M. P.  BOIDIN (1985)  "Unconsciousness    may   lead   to   asphyxia  from obstruction  of the upper  airway"


Journal of Applied Physiology
 Sep;14:760-4.
doi: 10.1152/jappl.1959.14.5.760.
Upper Airway Obstruction in the Unconscious Patient
P SAFAR, L A ESCARRAGA, F CHANG

" Roentgenograms demonstrated that the tongue is pushed against the posterior pharyngeal wall when the neck is flexed and the mandible is not held forward. The incidence and degree of obstruction was similar in the prone and supine positions,"

https://www.physio-pedia.com/Respiratory_Management_for_Traumatic_Brain_Injury

Nursing Times: Resuscitation skills – part two – Clearing the airway.

"Patients who need resuscitation often have airway obstruction, usually secondary to loss of consciousness "

I could go on....

 Falling by the way is the most common cause of accidental death in the home. Far more common than abduction by strangers!

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

http://www.forensicmed.co.uk/pathology/head-injury/causes-of-death/

Forensic Medicine for Medical Students

Causes of death following head injury include the following;

    raised intra-cranial pressure/ brain swelling/ herniation
    hypoxic/ ischaemic injury (e.g. following airway obstruction post-injury, due to aspiration of gastric contents (or blood etc) or postural asphyxia as a result of being pinned upside down in a vehicle following a road traffic collision, for example
    diffuse brain injury (vascular or axonal)
    blood loss (e.g. following a scalp laceration)
    infection (meningitis or pneumonia)
    epilepsy/ dementia



Read more: http://www.forensicmed.co.uk/pathology/head-injury/causes-of-death/

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Trauma Primary Survey

Jason H. Planas; David F. Sigmon.
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Last Update: April 28, 2020.
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Introduction

The primary survey is designed to assess and treat any life-threatening injuries quickly. It should be completed very rapidly. The main causes of death in a trauma patient are airway obstruction, respiratory failure, massive hemorrhage, and brain injuries. Therefore, these are the areas targeted during the primary survey. The following are some of, but not all, the specific injuries that may be identified during a primary survey, which may be potentially life-threatening:

    Airway obstruction
    Tension pneumothorax
    Massive internal or external hemorrhage
    Open pneumothorax
    Flail chest
    Cardiac tamponade
    Intracranial bleed

[Brietta]

Because they've got him and they don't trust The PJ.

What's the Portuguese problem with requests to forensically check samples from the McCann apartment ?  They denied Scotland Yard in 2014 and they denied the Germans in their turn 2020.

Madeleine McCann: 100 strands of untested human hair provide new hope in DNA hunt
BRITISH detectives probing the Madeleine McCann disappearance in Portugal want to retest hairs after it was found previous DNA tests carried out during the original investigation were incomplete.
By GERARD COUZENS
08:52, Wed, Oct 29, 2014
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/528865/Madeleine-McCann-human-hairs-hunt-Portugal
_____________________________________________

But Portuguese officials say that this saliva sample has already been examined at Institute Forsenic Medicine in Coimbra and that no DNA match to new suspect Brueckner was found.

A similar request by Scotland Yard was refused in 2014 when British detectives wanted to retest nearly 100 strands of hair strands that were discovered during the original investigation but never DNA-matched.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8431391/German-police-want-retest-mystery-saliva-McCanns-Praia-Luz-apartment.html

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

What's the Portuguese problem with requests to forensically check samples from the McCann apartment ?  They denied Scotland Yard in 2014 and they denied the Germans in their turn 2020.

Madeleine McCann: 100 strands of untested human hair provide new hope in DNA hunt
BRITISH detectives probing the Madeleine McCann disappearance in Portugal want to retest hairs after it was found previous DNA tests carried out during the original investigation were incomplete.
By GERARD COUZENS
08:52, Wed, Oct 29, 2014
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/528865/Madeleine-McCann-human-hairs-hunt-Portugal
_____________________________________________

But Portuguese officials say that this saliva sample has already been examined at Institute Forsenic Medicine in Coimbra and that no DNA match to new suspect Brueckner was found.

A similar request by Scotland Yard was refused in 2014 when British detectives wanted to retest nearly 100 strands of hair strands that were discovered during the original investigation but never DNA-matched.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8431391/German-police-want-retest-mystery-saliva-McCanns-Praia-Luz-apartment.html

I'm 100% in favour of further DNA tests on any of the collected hair samples.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Trauma Primary Survey

Jason H. Planas; David F. Sigmon.
Author Information

Last Update: April 28, 2020.
Go to:
Introduction

The primary survey is designed to assess and treat any life-threatening injuries quickly. It should be completed very rapidly. The main causes of death in a trauma patient are airway obstruction, respiratory failure, massive hemorrhage, and brain injuries. Therefore, these are the areas targeted during the primary survey. The following are some of, but not all, the specific injuries that may be identified during a primary survey, which may be potentially life-threatening:

    Airway obstruction
    Tension pneumothorax
    Massive internal or external hemorrhage
    Open pneumothorax
    Flail chest
    Cardiac tamponade
    Intracranial bleed

If you believe Madeleine died in an accidental fall do you think this happened before or after her parents left the apartment at 8.30pm?

[pathfinder73]

There isn’t a test that could be run to prove she was dead without a body and you must surely know this!

Tell that to the Germans. They are telling you she is dead! I'm telling you the police will believe she is dead if any blood alert evidence matched Madeleine. You can be certain of that!

[Brietta]

I'm 100% in favour of further DNA tests on any of the collected hair samples.

The point is it does not matter if you are ~ if the British police are ~ if the German police are ... it is self evident that the Portuguese are not !!! 
It is their ball and they are very obviously not prepared to let anyone else have a kick at it.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Tell that to the Germans. They are telling you she is dead! I'm telling you the police will believe she is dead if any blood alert evidence matched Madeleine. You can be certain of that!

The police may be stupid but they’re not THAT stupid.  Most police know that it’s possible to lose a speck of blood and live another day.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

If you believe Madeleine died in an accidental fall do you think this happened before or after her parents left the apartment at 8.30pm?

Speculation, of course, and I don't "believe it" instead I was suggesting it is a more likely event than stranger abduction... but getting back on topic maybe it happened just before or just as the latest prime suspect was in the apartment.

[Brietta]

The police may be stupid but they’re not THAT stupid.  Most police know that it’s possible to lose a speck of blood and live another day.

Quite obviously the only DNA of any significance would be foreign DNA which cannot be identified as belonging to anyone with a legitimate right to be within 5A.
I believe such a sample may already exist ... and who knows about the jealously guarded hairs. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/528865/Madeleine-McCann-human-hairs-hunt-Portugal