New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Holly Goodhead]

I can distinguish fact from fantasy which you seem to struggle with

What fantasy are you referring to?

[The General]

Guy, guys.....everyone chill the heck out.
The 'concrete evidence' MM is dead that HCW refers to is the analysis of the EVRD searches.

......sheeeesh. You guys.

[Eleanor]

Guy, guys.....everyone chill the heck out.
The 'concrete evidence' MM is dead that HCW refers to is the analysis of the EVRD searches.

......sheeeesh. You guys.

Now there's an interesting thought.

[The General]

Now there's an interesting thought.

It's more than that, girl, it's a fact.

[Holly Goodhead]

You say you believe in justice and not the court of public opinion ..yet you have found HCW and the German justice system guilt of denying CB his human rights. You have then proceeded to the ECHR and found Germany guilty there.
Does your support of justice only extend to the rights of paedophiles and rapists...like CB

Please refer to my posts which support your claims.

And please stop trying to make the discussion emotive.  You know Human Rights extend to all in modern democratic countries regardless of any other factors.  A key principle is the right to a fair trial. 

If, and its a very big if imo, CB is charged I hope Portugal will fight to hold the trial there.

[Mr Gray]

What fantasy are you referring to?

Carole T being the abductor...you talk about justice yet you have found her guilty in your kangaroo court...thats libellous too. At least CHW refers to his suspect and doesnt name him.

your fantasy that CHW is incompetent and will be sacked....again no real justice...he sincompetent because you say so

Your fantasy that CB has  case for libel and a case for the ECHR

[Holly Goodhead]

Guy, guys.....everyone chill the heck out.
The 'concrete evidence' MM is dead that HCW refers to is the analysis of the EVRD searches.

......sheeeesh. You guys.

Well spotted!

[Holly Goodhead]

your fantasy that CHW is incompetent and will be sacked....again no real justice...he sincompetent because you say so

Your fantasy that CB has  case for libel and a case for the ECHR

Who is CHW?

The fact you disagree with something doesn't make it a fantasy.

[Mr Gray]

Please refer to my posts which support your claims.

And please stop trying to make the discussion emotive.  You know Human Rights extend to all in modern democratic countries regardless of any other factors.  A key principle is the right to a fair trial. 

If, and its a very big if imo, CB is charged I hope Portugal will fight to hold the trial there.

I do but you dont seem to think they extend  to HCW.

Why do you want CB tried in portugal...so that the PJ could extract  a confession as they did in a related case

[Mr Gray]

Guy, guys.....everyone chill the heck out.
The 'concrete evidence' MM is dead that HCW refers to is the analysis of the EVRD searches.

......sheeeesh. You guys.

He says he has concrete evidence of death and that his suspect killed her.

[Mr Gray]

Who is CHW?

The fact you disagree with something doesn't make it a fantasy.

its fantasy if there is no evidence to support it

[The General]

He says he has concrete evidence of death and that his suspect killed her.

'Concrete evidence' of her being dead and this apparent placing him near the scene. Two very succinct distinctions; he's referring to the former, hence why they were appealing for help with the numbers.
But I can see how you'd conclude the opposite.

[Holly Goodhead]

I do but you dont seem to think they extend  to HCW.

Why do you want CB tried in portugal...so that the PJ could extract  a confession as they did in a related case

How have HCW's HR's been violated?  He's the spokesperson wheeled out by those with the real power.

As Eleanor points out this is the MM board/CB thread not JC.

You seem to me Davel to be intolerant of anyone who doesn't share your world view and incapable of accepting that someone/something can be perceived and interpreted in different ways.

Not content that I'm not a sceptic you're prepared to spend all day with me arguing because I think Germany's case against CB is non-existent and I have my own theory about what happened to MM.  Until you're able to produce something substantively new, which I doubt you ever will, I will not be changing my opinions.

Off to do some housework.

[Mr Gray]

How have HCW's HR's been violated?  He's the spokesperson wheeled out by those with the real power.

As Eleanor points out this is the MM board/CB thread not JC.

You seem to me Davel to be intolerant of anyone who doesn't share your world view and incapable of accepting that someone/something can be perceived and interpreted in different ways.

Not content that I'm not a sceptic you're prepared to spend all day with me arguing because I think Germany's case against CB is non-existent and I have my own theory about what happened to MM.  Until you're able to produce something substantively new, which I doubt you ever will, I will not be changing my opinions.

Off to do some housework.

[Carana]

I do but you dont seem to think they extend  to HCW.

Why do you want CB tried in portugal...so that the PJ could extract  a confession as they did in a related case

Normally, IIRC, crimes are tried in the country in which the crime was committed (with some exceptions). There was a whole thread on this.

Germany may have a different law which might take precedence, but I haven't looked into it.