New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Mr Gray]

There is evidence which suggests some of them are.

I think the only evidence is in your head...some refers to more than one so if you disagree cite a couple

[G-Unit]

No there is not.  There is only your interpretation. You think Wolters is unreliable because of what the McCanns and The Met said back in June, but let's not forget: you also think the McCanns and the Met are unreliable too.  Perhaps it just suits you to disbelieve everything anyone says that contradicts your beliefs?  That's your choice but remember, it's only your opinion, and therefore worth nothing at all.   

There is evidence suggesting that OG and the McCanns contradicted Wolters claims. I have no opinion on the subject, therefore no belief. Perhaps his letter went astray in the post, but I doubt it.

[Mr Gray]

There is evidence suggesting that OG and the McCanns contradicted Wolters claims. I have no opinion on the subject, therefore no belief. Perhaps his letter went astray in the post, but I doubt it.

You said there is evidence of some claims being untrue but you repeatedly only cite this one. I don't beleive this is a false claim. It was reported Wolters sent the letter to SY and they didnt pass it on. Therefore its quite possible that your one claim is false. Should we therefore use your standards and not trust you as  a poster....seems sensible..

Madeleine McCann's parents have failed to receive crucial letters about their daughter's disappearance after a blunder by British police.

Kate and Gerry McCann rubbished claims from German authorities earlier this week that they were sent a note informing them Madeleine is dead.

But prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has insisted two letters were indeed sent, albeit indirectly, to Scotland Yard, where police chiefs then failed to pass them on, according to The Sun.

[Vertigo Swirl]

There is evidence suggesting that OG and the McCanns contradicted Wolters claims. I have no opinion on the subject, therefore no belief. Perhaps his letter went astray in the post, but I doubt it.

you do have an opinion  on the subject - you voiced it earlier today

“In my opinion Wolters has claimed things which both OG and the McCanns have denied, which leads me to treat his statements with caution”.

It’s clear you doubt his honesty and/or reliability IMO.

[barrier]

Its clear the Germans are operating on their own.

https://www.met.police.uk/notices/met/operation-grange/

On 12 May 2011 the Met announced that, at the request of the Home Secretary, it had agreed to bring its particular expertise to the Madeleine McCann case.

The then Commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, considered the request and took the decision that on balance it was the right thing to do. This was subject to funding being made available by the Home Office, as this case is beyond the Met’s jurisdiction.

Investigative review
The Met’s involvement, known as Operation Grange, is led by the Specialist Crime Command unit and involved, in the first instance, an ‘investigative review’.  This was a review of all of the investigations that had been previously conducted into the circumstances of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.

Ongoing investigation
In July 2013 the status of the Met’s enquiries changed to that of an investigation, working with the Portuguese authorities to pursue specific lines of enquiry.

The Portuguese authorities retain the lead and the Met continues to work in support of them.

The Home Office continues to fund Operation Grange.

Contact details for Operation Grange
Ways to contact us:

By phone: 0207 321 9251

By email: Operation.grange@met.police.uk

[Mr Gray]

Its clear the Germans are operating on their own.

https://www.met.police.uk/notices/met/operation-grange/

On 12 May 2011 the Met announced that, at the request of the Home Secretary, it had agreed to bring its particular expertise to the Madeleine McCann case.

The then Commissioner, Sir Paul Stephenson, considered the request and took the decision that on balance it was the right thing to do. This was subject to funding being made available by the Home Office, as this case is beyond the Met’s jurisdiction.

Investigative review
The Met’s involvement, known as Operation Grange, is led by the Specialist Crime Command unit and involved, in the first instance, an ‘investigative review’.  This was a review of all of the investigations that had been previously conducted into the circumstances of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.

Ongoing investigation
In July 2013 the status of the Met’s enquiries changed to that of an investigation, working with the Portuguese authorities to pursue specific lines of enquiry.

The Portuguese authorities retain the lead and the Met continues to work in support of them.

The Home Office continues to fund Operation Grange.

Contact details for Operation Grange
Ways to contact us:

By phone: 0207 321 9251

By email: Operation.grange@met.police.uk

In your opnion....It's quite obvious to me the Met and the Germans are working together.


what it does show clearly is the review looked at all the evidence relating to MMs disapppearance before investigating a specific line of enquiry....abduction...having looked at all the evidence

[Anthro]

There is evidence suggesting that OG and the McCanns contradicted Wolters claims. I have no opinion on the subject, therefore no belief. Perhaps his letter went astray in the post, but I doubt it.

Madeleine’s parents have always maintained that they will only accept that Madeleine is dead when her remains have been found. Gerry once said that no parent will give up on their child unless they know for sure the child is dead.

[barrier]

In your opnion....It's quite obvious to me the Met and the Germans are working together.


what it does show clearly is the review looked at all the evidence relating to MMs disapppearance before investigating a specific line of enquiry....abduction...having looked at all the evidence

Not a word about abduction but you're that hung up on it,you fail to see what is not there,wood for the tree's.

[Mr Gray]

Not a word about abduction but you're that hung up on it,you fail to see what is not there,wood for the tree's.

Abduction is the specific line of enquiry referred to in the remit....do you need a cite

[Vertigo Swirl]

Not a word about abduction but you're that hung up on it,you fail to see what is not there,wood for the tree's.

Do you think the Met have spent £12m investigating the McCanns?

[Wonderfulspam]

Abduction is the specific line of enquiry referred to in the remit....do you need a cite

No wonder they haven't solved it.

[Mr Gray]

I seem to remember CBs lawyer saying his extradition was illegal... Looks like he's wrong

[The General]

I seem to remember CBs lawyer saying his extradition was illegal... Looks like he's wrong

In fairness, it got to the highest appeal court, so it was clearly at least a 50/50 and passed a number of tests.
You've gotta roll with the punches on those decisions of arbitration, just like the McCanns.

[Mr Gray]

In fairness, it got to the highest appeal court, so it was clearly at least a 50/50 and passed a number of tests.
You've gotta roll with the punches on those decisions of arbitration, just like the McCanns.

it only got to the highest appeal court because it failed every test.....and then failed again

[The General]

it only got to the highest appeal court because it failed every test.....and then failed again

Well the McCanns should have listened to counsel. What a waste of the fund's money.