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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8100 on: September 26, 2020, 01:22:05 PM »
Is there anyone speaking Portuguese in here? Did the German prosecutor in Portuguese RTP programme say they had evidence that CB was in 5A?

saw this on another site...


The most intriguing part of last night’s interview with Sarah Felgueiras was Wolters hinting that he may now have forensic evidence placing Christian B inside apartment 5A.

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8101 on: September 26, 2020, 01:27:55 PM »
saw this on another site...


The most intriguing part of last night’s interview with Sarah Felgueiras was Wolters hinting that he may now have forensic evidence placing Christian B inside apartment 5A.

Then they better charge him then.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8102 on: September 26, 2020, 01:29:51 PM »
Then they better charge him then.

Im sure they will and I fully understand why they havent even interviewed him yet.

Offline Myster

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8103 on: September 26, 2020, 01:30:19 PM »
saw this on another site...


The most intriguing part of last night’s interview with Sarah Felgueiras was Wolters hinting that he may now have forensic evidence placing Christian B inside apartment 5A.
From the Mail...

When asked if he had any forensic evidence placing Brueckner inside the flat where Madeline was sleeping, Mr Wolters replied: 'I have an answer but we have decided not to divulge this information.

'I can't say 'yes' or 'no' as that would bring a thousand other questions and I cannot go into details.

'But you have to believe me when I say we have more evidence.

'Here in Germany our Public Ministry only divulges things when they are solid.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8775111/Madeline-McCann-investigators-say-not-need-youngsters-body-prosecute-German-suspect.html
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8104 on: September 26, 2020, 01:51:23 PM »
The German State pays the lawyer's fees if the defendant has no money.

do you have  a cite for that or have you just made it up..

ACCESS TO LEGAL AID DURING INVESTIGATIVE STAGE
Although accused persons have the right to legal advice prior to interrogation, there is no national mechanism to enable accused persons to consult with a lawyer, and very few positive obligations on the police to assist the accused to contact a lawyer. A broad variety of emergency defence lawyer services have been set up on a local basis, and lawyers can participate on a voluntary basis, but there is no national or centrally organised and managed scheme. In addition, the accused is not explicitly entitled to a lawyer during the interrogation itself, however the law provides for the right to access legal advice in each stage of proceedings. In practice, accused persons are routinely interrogated without receiving the assistance of a lawyer.

https://mkenyaujerumani.de/2015/05/21/l ... c%20lawyer.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8105 on: September 26, 2020, 01:53:18 PM »
Every lawyer may be appointed as court-appointed counsel; there is no public defender scheme in Germany. However, this lawyer is not necessarily provided free of charge to the accused. Instead, the questions of payment are deferred until after the proceedings are complete.

If convicted, the accused is responsible for the legal costs of the case. As a result, it is common for people to take out insurance against legal expenses in Germany, because of the risks of being held responsible for the costs of a case.

If acquitted, the State pays the court appointed lawyer under the codified ordinary fees scheme.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2020, 05:30:08 PM by Robittybob1 »

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8106 on: September 26, 2020, 02:08:16 PM »
From the Mail...

When asked if he had any forensic evidence placing Brueckner inside the flat where Madeline was sleeping, Mr Wolters replied: 'I have an answer but we have decided not to divulge this information.

'I can't say 'yes' or 'no' as that would bring a thousand other questions and I cannot go into details.

'But you have to believe me when I say we have more evidence.

'Here in Germany our Public Ministry only divulges things when they are solid.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8775111/Madeline-McCann-investigators-say-not-need-youngsters-body-prosecute-German-suspect.html

'Here in Germany our Public Ministry only divulges things when they are solid.'

Like the 'solid' fact that there was a mobile phone mast in Portugal belonging to the Ocean Club?

14th June
'So we think that our suspect was, on the day Madeleine was kidnapped in Praia da Luz, near the apartment.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8418479/Christian-Brueckner-identified-suspect-McCann-case-Mets-call-log-breakthrough.html

29th June
Mr Wolters said: "We know that the phone number which was used by our suspect on May 3, 2007, was connecting to the mast which belongs to the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11982215/christian-b-madeleine-mccann-phone-call-praia-da-luz/

28th July (video)
The data only shows that the phone was there. That's why we need the other person. They could tell us who they spoke to.
https://www.express.co.uk/videos/6175761354001/Madeleine-McCann-Wolters-discusses-important-phone-call

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8107 on: September 26, 2020, 02:14:42 PM »
'Here in Germany our Public Ministry only divulges things when they are solid.'

Like the 'solid' fact that there was a mobile phone mast in Portugal belonging to the Ocean Club?

14th June
'So we think that our suspect was, on the day Madeleine was kidnapped in Praia da Luz, near the apartment.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8418479/Christian-Brueckner-identified-suspect-McCann-case-Mets-call-log-breakthrough.html

29th June
Mr Wolters said: "We know that the phone number which was used by our suspect on May 3, 2007, was connecting to the mast which belongs to the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz."
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11982215/christian-b-madeleine-mccann-phone-call-praia-da-luz/

28th July (video)
The data only shows that the phone was there. That's why we need the other person. They could tell us who they spoke to.
https://www.express.co.uk/videos/6175761354001/Madeleine-McCann-Wolters-discusses-important-phone-call


I think you will almost certainly find that is poor translation ...either by HCW himself or by the papers. In this instnace belonging to would be translated as close to the Ocean club

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8108 on: September 26, 2020, 02:31:53 PM »
Can supporters really not see how nuts this all is ?

A prosecutor who alludes to having forensic evidence but isn’t even questioning never mind charging the suspect. A prosecutor leaking information to the press when that information has not been even been put to the suspect or his lawyer. Imagine that it was a Portuguese prosecutor and the parents were in the frame ? Do you see how nuts it is now ?

For me Wolter likes the limelight that this case has brought him just a little too much and I can only hope that his superiors reign him in soon before he does any more damage to not only his but the German judicial system’s reputation.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8109 on: September 26, 2020, 02:39:55 PM »
HCW has been at it for months now.  If the German authorities didn't like it you'd have thought they'd have shut him up already.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8110 on: September 26, 2020, 02:45:45 PM »
Can supporters really not see how nuts this all is ?

A prosecutor who alludes to having forensic evidence but isn’t even questioning never mind charging the suspect. A prosecutor leaking information to the press when that information has not been even been put to the suspect or his lawyer. Imagine that it was a Portuguese prosecutor and the parents were in the frame ? Do you see how nuts it is now ?

For me Wolter likes the limelight that this case has brought him just a little too much and I can only hope that his superiors reign him in soon before he does any more damage to not only his but the German judicial system’s reputation.

I think your post might not be hitting the mark quite as it should.  I am watching one European state's police force mopping up the failings of another state's police force and judicial system.

I am watching a man who is only now being a prime suspect in a crime for which the evidence was there to justify him being a suspect in 2007.   

All the bluster in the world is not going to change the fact that Amaral claims he was interviewed in 2007 and given a free pass to continue with whatever it was he was doing prior to that.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8111 on: September 26, 2020, 02:50:45 PM »
I don't see why sceptics are so concerned that Bruckener hasn't yet been questioned.  He's not going to tell the prosecutors anything at all so what difference does it make at this stage anyway?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8112 on: September 26, 2020, 02:52:05 PM »
I think your post might not be hitting the mark quite as it should.  I am watching one European state's police force mopping up the failings of another state's police force and judicial system.

I am watching a man who is only now being a prime suspect in a crime for which the evidence was there to justify him being a suspect in 2007.   

All the bluster in the world is not going to change the fact that Amaral claims he was interviewed in 2007 and given a free pass to continue with whatever it was he was doing prior to that.

You could also be watching a man who has nothing to do with abducting Maddie.

Because abduction is not a set in stone fact....what is a fact is there was no proof.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8113 on: September 26, 2020, 02:58:00 PM »
You could also be watching a man who has nothing to do with abducting Maddie.

Because abduction is not a set in stone fact....what is a fact is there was no proof.
The experienced experts in the field with all the information at their disposal seem to think Madeleine was abducted.  Are they mad?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8114 on: September 26, 2020, 03:25:20 PM »
You could also be watching a man who has nothing to do with abducting Maddie.

Because abduction is not a set in stone fact....what is a fact is there was no proof.

If CB is convicted which it seem to be is more likely by the day... Abduction will be proven