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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12255 on: February 21, 2021, 06:16:50 PM »
Did CB have a history of pedophilia in Portugal?  I know he had been convicted for the fuel thefts.

According to Amaral they did.

Snip
Published: 00:15 BST, 22 June 2020
Pressed on what Portuguese police knew about Brueckner’s past around the time Madeleine disappeared, he appeared to admit Algarve authorities were aware of his 1994 teenage sexual conviction for molesting a six-year-old girl by confessing: ‘At the time all we knew was that this man was a paedophile.’
https://healthyfrog.readsector.com/2020/06/21/maddie-mccann-prime-suspect-christian-brueckner-is-a-scapegoat-says-portuguese-detective/

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12256 on: February 21, 2021, 06:18:06 PM »

Oh I agree, but out on licence doesn't last for ever. At some time unless he reoffends he'll be free to come and go.

Being on licence wouldn't stop him offending anyway if that was his intent.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12257 on: February 21, 2021, 06:19:07 PM »
A lot of the early convictions in Germany were in a Juvenile Court.  In NZ at least sometimes that is kept most secret. To give a person another chance to reform.  So I'd imagine it wasn't shared.

I believe he shared the information himself to a Portuguese court.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12258 on: February 21, 2021, 07:30:12 PM »
Calling someone a 'lefty liberal' can be seen as offensive.

He can be put on a leash outside jail.

I don't think that could be done legally.

Once he has paid for his heinous crimes by serving the time given him by the courts he will be a free man.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12259 on: February 21, 2021, 08:06:55 PM »
According to Amaral they did.

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Published: 00:15 BST, 22 June 2020
Pressed on what Portuguese police knew about Brueckner’s past around the time Madeleine disappeared, he appeared to admit Algarve authorities were aware of his 1994 teenage sexual conviction for molesting a six-year-old girl by confessing: ‘At the time all we knew was that this man was a paedophile.’
https://healthyfrog.readsector.com/2020/06/21/maddie-mccann-prime-suspect-christian-brueckner-is-a-scapegoat-says-portuguese-detective/
Not very convincing.  It may have just been the rumour.   ‘At the time all we knew was that this man was a paedophile.’  Is that just the rumour.   Had he seen actual court records?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12260 on: February 21, 2021, 08:08:08 PM »
I believe he shared the information himself to a Portuguese court.
Do you mean CB shared this information himself?  To me that seems unlikely. 
« Last Edit: February 21, 2021, 08:16:14 PM by Robittybob1 »
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Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12261 on: February 21, 2021, 08:18:52 PM »
Do you mean CB shared this information himself?  To me that seems unlikely.

He appeared in Court and was probably asked if he had any Convictions.  He told The Portuguese Court that he did have.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12262 on: February 21, 2021, 08:22:31 PM »
Do you mean CB shared this information himself?

Indeed he did.

CHRISTIAN BRUECKNER TOLD AUTHORITIES HE WAS A PREDATOR A YEAR BEFORE MADELEINE MCCANN DISAPPEARED
https://distincttoday.net/2020/06/19/christian-brueckner-told-authorities-he-was-a-predator-a-year-before-madeleine-mccann-disappeared/
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12263 on: February 21, 2021, 11:49:17 PM »
Indeed he did.

CHRISTIAN BRUECKNER TOLD AUTHORITIES HE WAS A PREDATOR A YEAR BEFORE MADELEINE MCCANN DISAPPEARED
https://distincttoday.net/2020/06/19/christian-brueckner-told-authorities-he-was-a-predator-a-year-before-madeleine-mccann-disappeared/

Ah Nick Fagge of who Robert Jay QC at Leveson said:

‘The reporter was accused by the counsel for the inquiry, Robert Jay QC, of using "journalistic licence" to make an inference of innocence or guilt.’
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12264 on: February 22, 2021, 12:25:04 AM »
Ah Nick Fagge of who Robert Jay QC at Leveson said:

‘The reporter was accused by the counsel for the inquiry, Robert Jay QC, of using "journalistic licence" to make an inference of innocence or guilt.’

Leveson himself used words such as "fluff", "complete piffle" and "tittle-tattle" to describe stories written by Fagge, Pilditch and Flanagan.
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:FYO4YCE-mbwJ:https://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/dec/21/daily-express-obsessed-madeleine-mccann+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
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Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12265 on: February 22, 2021, 12:34:22 AM »
Leveson himself used words such as "fluff", "complete piffle" and "tittle-tattle" to describe stories written by Fagge, Pilditch and Flanagan.
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:FYO4YCE-mbwJ:https://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/dec/21/daily-express-obsessed-madeleine-mccann+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

It appears that Fagge doesn’t care who’s guilty as long as he gets paid to suggest someone is.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12266 on: February 22, 2021, 01:15:36 AM »
He appeared in Court and was probably asked if he had any Convictions.  He told The Portuguese Court that he did have.
Well that would be a first.  Most people in that predicament IMO would say "not as far as I can recall".
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Online misty

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12267 on: February 22, 2021, 01:19:59 AM »
According to Amaral they did.

Snip
Published: 00:15 BST, 22 June 2020
Pressed on what Portuguese police knew about Brueckner’s past around the time Madeleine disappeared, he appeared to admit Algarve authorities were aware of his 1994 teenage sexual conviction for molesting a six-year-old girl by confessing: ‘At the time all we knew was that this man was a paedophile.’
https://healthyfrog.readsector.com/2020/06/21/maddie-mccann-prime-suspect-christian-brueckner-is-a-scapegoat-says-portuguese-detective/

I've just finished watching episode 2 of the Discovery+ documentary and Goncalo Amaral has back-tracked on the claim Portuguese police knew Brueckner was a paedophile. He said they must have knocked on Brueckner's door because of his criminal record for robbery, which is odd given that he'd never given the courts any addresses in Luz.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2021, 01:32:58 AM by misty »

Offline Robittybob1

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12268 on: February 22, 2021, 01:23:05 AM »
Indeed he did.

CHRISTIAN BRUECKNER TOLD AUTHORITIES HE WAS A PREDATOR A YEAR BEFORE MADELEINE MCCANN DISAPPEARED
https://distincttoday.net/2020/06/19/christian-brueckner-told-authorities-he-was-a-predator-a-year-before-madeleine-mccann-disappeared/
So this judge gets told this during an interview and somehow it's the PJ's fault for not doing something about it.  To me the problem starts with the judge, he should have done something about it.
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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #12269 on: February 22, 2021, 02:10:49 AM »
Leveson himself used words such as "fluff", "complete piffle" and "tittle-tattle" to describe stories written by Fagge, Pilditch and Flanagan.
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:FYO4YCE-mbwJ:https://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/dec/21/daily-express-obsessed-madeleine-mccann+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

It is so tedious to be in denial to the extent that it is deemed necessary to use smoke and mirrors to deflect from the truth about a man known to abuse children and to rape women.
I can only account for it by thinking it is an affliction which I shall name as "The Truth of the Lie Syndrome".

Portuguese knew German suspect was a paedophile when Madeleine McCann vanished
By Arthur Martin Time of article published Jun 20, 2020
Police on the Algarve have defended the five-year gap between Madeleine going missing in 2007 and the new suspect coming into the frame by claiming that they knew nothing of his past at the time.

But court papers released on Friday show Brueckner admitted his sordid past, telling a Portuguese judge in 2006 that he was a convicted paedophile.
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Brueckner, described by German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters as ‘a multiple sexual predator already convicted of crimes against little girls’, was first convicted of child sex crimes in 1994. He has 17 convictions, including child pornography, theft and drug dealing.
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Last night, Graham Hill, a former senior British detective who was sent to Praia da Luz days after Madeleine vanished, said: ‘The question for the Portuguese is: what system did you have, if any? Because I’m not sure they had a system back in 2006 and 2007 which allowed them to easily record information about sex offenders and then search for them.

‘If they didn’t have it, they are now getting caught out because they knew about this man in 2006 and knew he had convictions for sex offences back in Germany.’
https://www.iol.co.za/news/world/portuguese-knew-german-suspect-was-a-paedophile-when-madeleine-mccann-vanished-49651938


Christian Brueckner TOLD authorities he was a predator a YEAR before Madeleine McCann disappeared

Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner admitted to Portuguese authorities that he was a sexual predator a year before she disappeared but detectives searching for the youngster never considered him a potential kidnapper.

Brueckner told an investigating judge that he had a criminal record in Germany and that he had committed sex offences when he interrogated for stealing diesel from commercial trucks in the Algarve in 2006.

However the German’s confession that he was sex offender was not recorded by police and his name was never added to a list of known sex offenders living in the Algarve.
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Details of his confession that he was a sexual predator have emerged in documents of his interview by criminal investigating Judge Antonieta Nascimento in the Portimao court house on 8th April 2006.

His name should have been added to a list held by the Portugal’s investigative Policia Judiciaria [PJ] who were tasked with finding Madeleine McCann just a year later.
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The revelation, made today in the Portuguese media, adds to the growing evidence of the incompetence of the initial police investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance from a holiday apartment in May 2007.

https://twnews.co.uk/uk-news/christian-brueckner-told-authorities-he-was-a-predator-a-year-before-madeleine-mccann-disappeared


Brückner admitted "sexual offences" before Maddie's disappearance

Suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann confessed to the judge that he had committed sex crimes in Germany. The interrogation took place in 2006, a year before the disappearance of the British child. when Brückner was arrested in Portugal for fuel theft

At the time the question was asked of everyone who was present to a judge: "What are your criminal records? You have to answer with truth." Christian Brückner had been arrested with an accomplice for fuel theft and admitted to Judge Antoinette Nascimento that he had already been convicted in Germany of "thefts" and "sexual offences".
https://expresso.pt/sociedade/2020-06-19-Bruckner-admitiu-delitos-sexuais-antes-do-desaparecimento-de-Maddie
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....