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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #510 on: December 24, 2021, 12:35:12 PM »
Actual, factual killers and their mothers can be convincing actors

’Hall's adopted mother Lynn burst into tears before he was led back to the dock for the last time.
Hall, dressed in a pink shirt and a black suit, took a deep breath as the jury foreman told the judge that at least ten jurors had agreed on a verdict.
When he uttered the word "guilty" the court erupted with wails and sobs from Hall's family.
The judge waited for a minute until the noise died down, while Hall looked stunned in the dock.
He put his head in his hands, then looked up and shook his head as his inconsolable mum collapsed into the arms of her family.

http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/life-behind-bars-for-capel-killer-1-132809

And Corinne Mitchell’s performance over the years has been similar to Lynne Halls

Corrine Mitchell referred to a ‘confession’ during her performance on James English’s podcast
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #511 on: December 24, 2021, 12:41:56 PM »
According to convicted but exonerated murderer Michael O’Brien (one of the so called Cardiff Newsagent 3)

On the 27th February 2014 he publicly stated,

Sandra Lean has done so much for victims of miscarriages of justice and I am sickened that anyone could even suggest she was responsible for Simon Hall’s death so whoever is responsible for these malicious lies had better stop. Hope your health gets better soon Sandra thinking of you. XX’

Sandra Lean has been promoting the innocence fraud of actual, factual guilty killers for years and has used no end of malicious lies to do so

Who was it who allegedly said Sandra Lean ‘was responsible for Simon Hall’s death’?

Where did these allegations stem from originally?

Or were they manufactured?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #512 on: December 24, 2021, 03:59:52 PM »
The following https://theerrorsthatplaguethemiscarriageofjusticemovement.home.blog/2021/12/19/wrongful-convictions
is a ‘work in progress’ however the malicious smear tactics used by Sandra Lean to promote herself and her cause, will be explored and highlighted in the New Year
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #513 on: February 13, 2022, 12:18:47 AM »
Sandra Lean has recently - via her podcast - attempted to promote the innocence fraud of serial killer Ben Geen

She claims not only did Geen ’not commit the crimes they didn’t happen’

Maybe during her next podcast she’ll name the prescription drugs Ben Geen was stealing from Horton General hospital, the quantities he stole, the dates on which he stole them and in what properties linked to Geen they were found in

Also maybe she can tell us why Mark McDonald (Ben Geen’s lawyer) contradicted Megan Crabbe’s evidence in chief during the ‘Nurses who kill’ documentary

And how many loaded syringes Ben Geen and his fiancé Megan Crabbe were aware of - not including the one found on him upon arrival to work when he was arrested by police

Suspect we’ll be hearing more about Mark McDonald 🙄
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #514 on: February 18, 2022, 02:02:00 PM »
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Offline Angelo222

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #515 on: February 18, 2022, 05:48:11 PM »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #516 on: February 19, 2022, 04:22:44 PM »
Not in the least surprised given the content.

How many pages of case papers do you think were disclosed to LM ?

Sandra Lean’s interpretation contained within what 380 pages of a book?

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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #517 on: February 24, 2022, 09:02:10 AM »
Liar Sandra Lean stated on 26th October 2018

Today, my book about the case, Innocents Betrayed, was launched. Profits from the book are being donated to help fund a new organisation, Long Road to Justice, which will be taking a radically new approach to helping the fight against injustice…

Does anyone have any updates on what Sandra Lean has done with the profits from her second book, given she made claim they were being donated to a ‘new organisation, Long Road to Justice’?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #518 on: February 24, 2022, 10:23:04 AM »
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"In the Mitchell murder trial, we are not and have not been privy to everything that was led in evidence, nor have we seen every shred of it and heard every word of testimony."
     

https://thescotslawblog.com/2021/03/01/unravelling-corroboration-and-circumstantial-evidence/

So these "professionals who really should know better" Experts in their field being asked questions in such a way to illicit the response sought after, matter not. It is simply bias upon bias. The article is correct, they have not witnessed near enough of this case to place any ? upon reasonable doubt.

And these wannabe experts, who profess to being something that they simply are not. There is and never was a criminologist who studied this case, there was a student who used it for study purpose. Psychic Sue? who just knew this complete stranger (cough) did not kill Jodi Jones. So much so she was shouting it from those rooftops she just loves so much. Who then, by September 2003 had LM look her in the eye and "she just knew (again) that he was innocent" Marvellous Intel.

IB tells us that Ms Lean along with the Mitchells carried out their "own form of investigation" CM tells us in her JE podcast of her and Sandra's theories. LM by October was out with his mother "celebrating the end of a difficult time" So this extremely "close collaboration" between what was to become SL's two "key witnesses" - had all three working together, investigating into who the killer could be? - comedy of errors! (IB really is!) We have barely reached Nov '03' here.

Make no mistake here, those foundations already being firmly laid. The events of that day, told to SL who simply soaked up every word, from this complete stranger, whom she just knew by that eye contact to be innocent. So one had those events firmly embedded, all three had media reports to work from. We had the duo on the bike, this mystery man, and as SL tells us in IB, intel from the Mitchells on Jodi's family, her brother. We still have not reached Nov '03' here. We already have half of IB here, those 380 pages of large text.

So, to the point (really), and to be serious here. Not that it would matter one iota what SL had access to, the outcome would still be the same. Taken every piece of advice by Colin Bowman. To sway public opinion by deflecting away from the convicted, the truth, the evidence. By using that psychological approach, that 'gaslighting' Pushing out a false narrative to place attention upon others, to change ones perception of the truth by showing that anyone connected may have been acting upon self interest.

Right down to those aunts in the carpark. Perhaps they arrived with Morag's UFO? Who knows, anything is a real possibility. Enough now:

SL has never had access to the case files, she did not attend those 9 weeks of trial, hearing/seeing/witnessing testimony first hand. Has never had access to full court transcripts. Is putting out her psychological approach, based upon deflection. As there is nothing, that is zero to even scratch the surface of a MOJ.  Everything she is projecting is based upon that clear conflict of interest, that claimed blind faith and psychic powers, telling her of a strangers innocence. - But going by these threads popping up (Blue Forum), it is easy to see exactly the level of intellect aimed at, and those who take this on as 9 weeks of nothing. For if the whole case fits into around 50 pages of large text (the rest deflection), you do exactly what it says on the tin. - wonderful stuff. Keep up the good work. What day is it today children? It is the day before 'Forensic Friday?'

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #519 on: February 24, 2022, 01:13:13 PM »
     

https://thescotslawblog.com/2021/03/01/unravelling-corroboration-and-circumstantial-evidence/

So these "professionals who really should know better" Experts in their field being asked questions in such a way to illicit the response sought after, matter not. It is simply bias upon bias. The article is correct, they have not witnessed near enough of this case to place any ? upon reasonable doubt.

And these wannabe experts, who profess to being something that they simply are not. There is and never was a criminologist who studied this case, there was a student who used it for study purpose. Psychic Sue? who just knew this complete stranger (cough) did not kill Jodi Jones. So much so she was shouting it from those rooftops she just loves so much. Who then, by September 2003 had LM look her in the eye and "she just knew (again) that he was innocent" Marvellous Intel.

IB tells us that Ms Lean along with the Mitchells carried out their "own form of investigation" CM tells us in her JE podcast of her and Sandra's theories. LM by October was out with his mother "celebrating the end of a difficult time" So this extremely "close collaboration" between what was to become SL's two "key witnesses" - had all three working together, investigating into who the killer could be? - comedy of errors! (IB really is!) We have barely reached Nov '03' here.

Make no mistake here, those foundations already being firmly laid. The events of that day, told to SL who simply soaked up every word, from this complete stranger, whom she just knew by that eye contact to be innocent. So one had those events firmly embedded, all three had media reports to work from. We had the duo on the bike, this mystery man, and as SL tells us in IB, intel from the Mitchells on Jodi's family, her brother. We still have not reached Nov '03' here. We already have half of IB here, those 380 pages of large text.

So, to the point (really), and to be serious here. Not that it would matter one iota what SL had access to, the outcome would still be the same. Taken every piece of advice by Colin Bowman. To sway public opinion by deflecting away from the convicted, the truth, the evidence. By using that psychological approach, that 'gaslighting' Pushing out a false narrative to place attention upon others, to change ones perception of the truth by showing that anyone connected may have been acting upon self interest.

Right down to those aunts in the carpark. Perhaps they arrived with Morag's UFO? Who knows, anything is a real possibility. Enough now:

SL has never had access to the case files, she did not attend those 9 weeks of trial, hearing/seeing/witnessing testimony first hand. Has never had access to full court transcripts. Is putting out her psychological approach, based upon deflection. As there is nothing, that is zero to even scratch the surface of a MOJ.  Everything she is projecting is based upon that clear conflict of interest, that claimed blind faith and psychic powers, telling her of a strangers innocence. - But going by these threads popping up (Blue Forum), it is easy to see exactly the level of intellect aimed at, and those who take this on as 9 weeks of nothing. For if the whole case fits into around 50 pages of large text (the rest deflection), you do exactly what it says on the tin. - wonderful stuff. Keep up the good work. What day is it today children? It is the day before 'Forensic Friday?'

 8((()*/
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline TruthSeeker2003

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #520 on: March 02, 2022, 01:25:29 AM »
Does anyone have any updates on what Sandra Lean has done with the profits from her second book, given she made claim they were being donated to a ‘new organisation, Long Road to Justice’?

Along with calling it LM’s fighting fund. Where did the profits go I wonder? She has never been clear or willing to answer this question.
“I am a Truthseeker, searching for truth” “Make of that what you will”

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #521 on: March 03, 2022, 02:07:32 PM »
Along with calling it LM’s fighting fund. Where did the profits go I wonder? She has never been clear or willing to answer this question.

Sandra Lean on ‘podcasts’
‘Matt Elliott They're the bane of my life!!! I can't comment unless I've listened to the whole thing and, as Lianna pointed out, it can literally take hours to note all of the errors and correct them.

I've reached out to a number of podcasters whose output was factually wildly inaccurate and requested an online discussion with them to clear up the errors - to date, not a single one has accepted the invitation. That says something about their motivation, in my opinion!!!
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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #522 on: March 03, 2022, 02:09:44 PM »
Emma Morris
Good morning. The Jeremy Bamber Innocence Campaign recently interviewed Dr Sandra Lean about Luke’s case for one of our podcasts (Jeremy Bamber and White House Farm).
As I’m sure everyone here knows, Sandra has dedicated many years to researching and trying to achieve justice for Luke and this interview gives a heartbreaking account of how a young boy was failed so badly by the British justice system:


Sandra Lean
Sharon Cuthbertson Stevenson First of all, thank you for being so honest. I know many people have been afraid to admit they believed Luke, Jeremy and others were guilty purely based on media portrayals. But it's people like you, who are willing to take another look and decide for themselves, once they have seen all the facts, who will eventually bring about the changes we need in our justice systems - changes that will stop innocent people being robbed of decades of their lives and, in cases like Luke's, leaving the real killers walking among us.
Secondly, the murders for which Jeremy was convicted happened 20 years before Luke was convicted. Long before I became involved in this work, I knew there was something terribly wrong with Jeremy's case. I didn't understand, back then, HOW it could have gone so badly wrong, but I knew that it had.

Sandra Lean
Sharon Cuthbertson Stevenson There is so much to learn about Jeremy's case - it's utterly horrifying how much information there is pointing away from him ... and how long it's taken to get that into the public domain. Even then, the strength of opposition to those facts is astonishing. I know the campaign team will be happy to answer your questions and point you in the right direction!
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Offline Parky41

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #523 on: March 09, 2022, 01:09:31 PM »
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Sandra Lean (yesterday)
‘There was a discussion recently about whether AO (Jodi's mother's partner) gave evidence at trial. I wasn't able to answer definitively, because I couldn't remember seeing any media coverage and I know I hadn't seen transcripts, but neither of those confirm the situation one way or another.
Someone very kindly found the article below and shared it with me, so now we have the answer- he did (albeit reported in the middle of Jodi's mum's evidence in this article)

Not yesterday of course ( Has been in my drafts for a little while) But interestingly, that which has been pointed out to me, SL does not even know the correct spelling of this mans name. So not even the mere basics are correct?

SL tells us that anything from the book that is "missing was also missing from the defence papers" SL also states repeatedly of evidence/information that was not inclusive as being "hidden" and "buried" or wilfully handed over incomplete. And again, for those who somehow fail to pick up on or know this. When a list of witnesses for the Crown are given to the defence, they themselves then choose to carry out precognitions of these witnesses. They are for the most part, also handed the statements and so forth to do with these witnesses, who will testify for the prosecution. And kept in those papers will be areas that the defence, they themselves would use?  Now I am not going to apply that this would therefore fall under this "hidden" or "buried" where not being included in the defence papers matter, that would be silly.

It is firstly this "I wasn't able to answer definitively ----------" Now I am not an expert but neither do I believe for one moment, that inclusive of one's defense papers will not be a list of those witnesses called to testify, perhaps there was not? But without doubt there will be enough, with or without court transcripts to tell, that AO's was one such witness who gave evidence at this trial. That IF indeed SL did not know he had testified then why not? That is the question one should be asking, should they not? This person is advocating themselves as being an expert on this case, that she is putting out "everything" people need to know of LM V HMA?

So no, it is not simply that it revealed without doubt, that one had not sat through the trial, confirmed that one had not had access to court transcripts in full, but showed once more, just how much is missing from what this woman has had access to? That reliance upon the media for information. Or, and as I stated last year, that willfulness to play dumb, to let those conspiracies do their rounds, as to why this key witness had not been called to give evidence? It served purpose, did it not? to have any concentration away from Mitchell and evidence, upon these 'others' Namely the police here, who the conspiracies were being fed around. We had talk of statements "buried in drawers" and the likes.

Such a small statement, full to the brim with important information. It not only questions what one had access to to, those clear limitations, but highlights dishonesty, does it not? Shows that one's concentration (that tunnel vision and bias), has been to feed as much as possible around whatever one was putting together, with the help of the Mitchell's in 2003. Devouring eagerly every media report, anything in those case papers, to build as much upon of one's 'others' as was possible.

And shows us that those questions are hardly surprising at all, are they not? It is no wonder one has questions into areas that she has been completely blind to? And poses ones whilst lying by omission in other areas. But it has not stopped the innuendo, that supposition and borderline liable. It has been carefully set out, to have one's own case (aided by the Mitchells) put out for all to see? And if one has read the book, they can see that scraping at the pits of the barrel, picking their way through anything they have managed to source upon those 'others. We have 12 pages on mobile phones belonging to the Jones family but nothing of AO's testifying at court?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #524 on: March 09, 2022, 09:28:27 PM »
We have 12 pages on mobile phones belonging to the Jones family but nothing of AO's testifying at court?

An omission or intentional deception?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation