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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #75 on: November 20, 2022, 09:49:32 AM »
Sceptic Logic:  the longer the police investigate a crime the less likely it is to have happened  *%87

Brueckner IS the murderer.
Wolters has Concrete Evidence.
How could there possibly be any other abductor?
The case is solved, isn't It?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #76 on: November 20, 2022, 09:53:14 AM »
Until you understand how organisations work, you will continue to go round in circles. Who are 'they'? The only 'they' who count are those who feel qualified to express an opinion and those who can act on it. Then the saying "He who pays the piper calls the tune" should be considered.
In your opinion then do senior police never once veer from a remit, even if their investigating officers are reporting back to them that there is no evidence of the particular crime as laid out in it?  Are the police that intransigent that they would far rather waste 10 years of time and money investigating a crime that they are fairly certain never occurred?  And that in that time they would be confident that there would be no anonymous whistleblower from within their ranks going to the press to tell them that the investigation was set on a wild goose chase?  Is this really what you think? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #77 on: November 20, 2022, 09:56:36 AM »
Why is grange still active when there's concrete evidence Maddie was murdered by Brueckner?
Can someone explain?
It's almost as though Wolters wasn't telling the truth, but that would be impossible because Wolters wouldn't lie about such a thing would he.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #78 on: November 20, 2022, 10:21:00 AM »
Until you understand how organisations work, you will continue to go round in circles. Who are 'they'? The only 'they' who count are those who feel qualified to express an opinion and those who can act on it. Then the saying "He who pays the piper calls the tune" should be considered.

That was my next question.  Who are they that decided on and defined The Remit?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #79 on: November 20, 2022, 10:44:54 AM »
That was my next question.  Who are they that decided on and defined The Remit?
And you might like to ask She Who Knows why they decided it was an abduction and why they refuse to countenance any insubordination from the lower ranks, as she seems to be suggesting.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline barrier

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #80 on: November 20, 2022, 10:57:39 AM »
Put it another way with all the trouble the MET are having and have had including now "Head of Scotland Yard's catastrophic VIP sex abuse inquiry faces gross misconduct proceedings over 'misleading comments' at end of £2.5m probe" would one seriously expect them to conduct a proper investigation when it now seems likely CB was given to them not by investigating but by an informant or two coming to their rescue, the article makes interesting reading about crims being informants.

Link to the bolded bit.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11444203/Head-Scotland-Yards-catastrophic-VIP-sex-abuse-inquiry-faces-gross-misconduct-proceedings.html
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #81 on: November 20, 2022, 11:03:56 AM »
In your opinion then do senior police never once veer from a remit, even if their investigating officers are reporting back to them that there is no evidence of the particular crime as laid out in it?  Are the police that intransigent that they would far rather waste 10 years of time and money investigating a crime that they are fairly certain never occurred?  And that in that time they would be confident that there would be no anonymous whistleblower from within their ranks going to the press to tell them that the investigation was set on a wild goose chase?  Is this really what you think?

Does every police investigation have a remit? I know that remits exist; the IOPC has one, for example, which lays down what they are authorised to investigate;
https://policeconduct.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Documents/Who-we-are/Our-Policies/IOPC_HomeOffice_Framework_Agreement.pdf

The PIRC is the Scottish equivalent, and their remit excludes certain matters from being investigated by them;

The PIRC cannot review allegations of criminal behaviour by police officers or staff. These are dealt with by the Crown Office & Procurator Fiscal Service. The PIRC also cannot consider complaints made by individuals currently
or formerly serving with the police about employment matters, such as grievances, disciplinary issues, and terms
and conditions of service. In certain circumstances the PIRC may decline to carry out a complaint handling review, for example if a complaint is deemed vexatious or wholly lacking in foundation.
https://pirc.scot/media/4907/pirc_guide_for_police_and_staff_web.pdf

So a remit lays down what the organisation is to investigate. I don't know who decided to create and release the remit of OG, but I would be surprised if every police investigation had one. Perhaps it was related to the funding involvement of the Home Office.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #82 on: November 20, 2022, 11:10:23 AM »
And you might like to ask She Who Knows why they decided it was an abduction and why they refuse to countenance any insubordination from the lower ranks, as she seems to be suggesting.

Why and how they decided it was an abduction is one question I have been asking, but no answer seems to be forthcoming.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #83 on: November 20, 2022, 11:12:35 AM »
And you might like to ask She Who Knows why they decided it was an abduction and why they refuse to countenance any insubordination from the lower ranks, as she seems to be suggesting.

That was my next question.  And I've got a few more.

Offline Eleanor

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #84 on: November 20, 2022, 11:15:17 AM »
Why and how they decided it was an abduction is one question I have been asking, but no answer seems to be forthcoming.

So why are you pontificating about it if you don't know anything?

Offline Eleanor

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #85 on: November 20, 2022, 11:19:46 AM »
 Remit.  Google.

"An item referred to someone for consideration."

That doesn't sound like an order to me.



Offline barrier

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #86 on: November 20, 2022, 11:31:26 AM »
Remit.  Google.

"An item referred to someone for consideration."

That doesn't sound like an order to me.

So who decided that consideration should only be focussed  on an abduction as if it happened in UK ?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #87 on: November 20, 2022, 11:37:38 AM »
So who decided that consideration should only be focussed  on an abduction as if it happened in UK ?

You tell me.

Offline barrier

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #88 on: November 20, 2022, 12:16:41 PM »
You tell me.

Its all a moot point now the BKA have it in hand.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Remit of SY
« Reply #89 on: November 20, 2022, 12:20:50 PM »
Why and how they decided it was an abduction is one question I have been asking, but no answer seems to be forthcoming.
Do you expect one of us to be able to answer your question to your satisfaction?  Send them an FOI if you're so desperate to know.
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