Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.

[John]

RM was made an arguido by the PJ - from various information they received - none of which had come from the McCanns or their friends -  and it turned out they were wrong (again).

Why are you claiming this when it is untrue Benice?

The tapas-7 were interviewed immediately after Madeleine was found missing and one of the questions was did you see anyone acting suspiciously around the OCG that night/morning.  At least three of them saw a man they later identified as RM. 

[VIXTE]

Why are you claiming this when it is untrue Benice?

The tapas-7 were interviewed immediately after Madeleine was found missing and one of the questions was did you see anyone acting suspiciously around the OCG that night/morning.  At least three of them saw a man they later identified as RM.

I am sorry but this seems illogical to me.. As if they knew who he was.. wouldn't they tell the British press when he was firstly suspected?

The press knew there was someone, it was  all over the news.. but it wasn't the RM photo they showed.
It was that guy, the british journalist living in PDL, Paul L.. something they showed..

Now, my question is: was name of RM ever mentioned in any early questioning of the tapas group?

I am too lazy to check for this.. and not so interested!

But if it did then it would be similar to case of Jonna Yeates, when her murderer wrongly accused the landlord..

[Benice]

Why would you query the date of the statement Benice?

Having read their statements again I would say that some members of the tapas-7 contributed to him being made an arguido.

I queried the date because of the quote below from Rachael's  statement dated the 15th, which as you say was the date on which RM was made an Arguido.     She refers to 'the day before when it was on TV that RM had been  made an Arguido'..  So either RM was made an arguido on the 14th or the date of her statement is incorrect.   But whenever it was - her statement was made AFTER RM had been made an Arguido - not on the same day or before.

Quote
She did not see him again, except for yesterday, when he was shown on various television channels as a suspect in the abduction of Madeleine.  She then felt her suspicions about this individual would be confirmed, feeling bad for not having expressed them earlier to others and to the police.
Unquote

Once again - she confirms that she had not spoken to the police about RM prior to his being made an arguido- so could not have contributed to that decision by the PJ to make him one.

[Benice]

Why are you claiming this when it is untrue Benice?

The tapas-7 were interviewed immediately after Madeleine was found missing and one of the questions was did you see anyone acting suspiciously around the OCG that night/morning. At least three of them saw a man they later identified as RM.

Yes but they identified him as the man they saw on 3rd May to the police AFTER he had been made an arguido.  It would have to be  BEFORE he was made an arguido for them to have influenced that decision by the PJ.   They do not mention RM at all in any statements given to the PJ BEFORE he was made an arguido.
 
RM was made an Arguido on the 15th May
It was then announced on TV.
As a result of seeing that - they contacted the police and were subsequently interviewed - and that is when they identified him as the man they saw on 3rd May.
 
Therefore it isn't physically possible for any of them to have contributed to RM being made an arguido as you claim - because he'd already been made one before they were interviewed.
 

 

[Angelo222]

You are forgetting that Robert Murat was seem on TV the week before he was made an arguido.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAgWLfiJMCU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Benice]

You are forgetting that Robert Murat was seem on TV the week before he was made an arguido.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAgWLfiJMCU&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/YouTube]

Sorry Angelo  - I don't understand the point you're making - could you elucidate plz?

[Eleanor]

Why were The McCanns made Arguidos?

There was never any reason to sensibly accuse either them or Robert Murat.  Just some idiot going off half cocked in the process of trying to make a name for himself.  And of course, none of them were actually Portuguese.

Robert Murat can thank his lucky stars that The Media were all over this from day one.  Although I do believe that Robert Murat was threatened by Goncalo Amaral, despite the fact that according to some, he was only The Coordinator.  Heaven help Robert Murat and those Police Station Stairs otherwise.

So for more than six months nothing else was looked at beyond those three.  What a mess.

[Lyall]

Why were The McCanns made Arguidos?

There was never any reason to sensibly accuse either them or Robert Murat.  Just some idiot going off half cocked in the process of trying to make a name for himself.  And of course, none of them were actually Portuguese.

Robert Murat can thank his lucky stars that The Media were all over this from day one.  Although I do believe that Robert Murat was threatened by Goncalo Amaral, despite the fact that according to some, he was only The Coordinator.  Heaven help Robert Murat and those Police Station Stairs otherwise.

So for more than six months nothing else was looked at beyond those three.  What a mess.

That's a lie but let's assume it's true for the sake of discussion. If it were true why was legal action not taken against the police? Why, instead, was it taken against a book writer?

[Redblossom]

Why were The McCanns made Arguidos?

There was never any reason to sensibly accuse either them or Robert Murat.  Just some idiot going off half cocked in the process of trying to make a name for himself.  And of course, none of them were actually Portuguese.

Robert Murat can thank his lucky stars that The Media were all over this from day one.  Although I do believe that Robert Murat was threatened by Goncalo Amaral, despite the fact that according to some, he was only The Coordinator.  Heaven help Robert Murat and those Police Station Stairs otherwise.

So for more than six months nothing else was looked at beyond those three.  What a mess.

So the PJ spent so many man hours and resources on all the sightngs just for fun?

14 whole  files here, and there are others

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ASSORTED_SIGHTINGS_13.htm

[Lyall]

.....  deleted quote removed ...

Portugal has a different judicial system. You keep talking about the police. Police, police, Amaral, police... Amaral etc.

You never mention the judges and prosecutors.

Quoting the Met on October 24th: "The Portuguese Judicial Authorities have today, 24 October, announced that they have reopened their investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann."

It is they who direct investigations, not policemen like Mr Amaral. It's a different system.

Yet you never mention this in your analysis of 2007 >@@(*&)

[jassi]

Portugal has a different judicial system. You keep talking about the police. Police, police, Amaral, police... Amaral etc.

You never mention the judges and prosecutors.

Quoting the Met on October 24th: "The Portuguese Judicial Authorities have today, 24 October, announced that they have reopened their investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann."

It is they who direct investigations, not policemen like Mr Amaral. It's a different system.

Yet you never mention this in your analysis of 2007 >@@(*&)

I believe a number of European countries have similar systems, so it is not a quirk of Portugal.

[Lyall]

I believe a number of European countries have similar systems, so it is not a quirk of Portugal.

But that doesn't fit Eleanor's (and the McCanns) narrative does it. They describe it like a Hollywood movie.

[Eleanor]

But that doesn't fit Eleanor's (and the McCanns) narrative does it. They describe it like a Hollywood movie.

What has this got to do with anything?  Three people were made Arguidos on nil evidence.  All subsequentially cleared of any involvement in a crime.
Mayhap Robert Murat will sue The PJ, but I somewhat doubt it.

[Lyall]

What has this got to do with anything?  Three people were made Arguidos on nil evidence.  All subsequentially cleared of any involvement in a crime.
Mayhap Robert Murat will sue The PJ, but I somewhat doubt it.

I rather think the authorities were thinking of the child who disappeared without trace, any trace, rather than worrying about upsetting the family's feelings.

[Lyall]

And it would be the same in any country in the world, Eleanor.

I dread to think what US police would have done in this case.