How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?

[John]

John, you made me laugh so much yesterday night, I almost woke up to laugh !
I have to say thank you !

eh??   This is a serious matter Anne!!!    

[John]

The News of the World claimed the detailed artist's impression was generated using information from a holidaymaker, who had been staying 600 yards from the McCanns in Praia da Luz. The associate editor of the News of the world, Gary Thompson, told Sky News: "The real significance is that the sketch has been shown to Jane Tanner, a member of the so-called Tapas Group. "You may remember she says she saw a man carrying a child. "We understand that Jane Tanner has confirmed the likeness."

Yet she never saw the guys face...now that is an astounding even humendous ability!   




<sub>The language of Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' public face, was unequivocal
as he addressed the media from a lectern in a London hotel. "Who is he? Where is
he? What, if any, is his connection to Madeleine's disappearance?" he said. "If he is
innocent, we want him to come forward for his own sake so he can be ruled out.
We believe this man could be linked to Madeleine's disappearance."




GAIL COOPER says she will never forget the day she stared into
the “dead eyes” of the man she believes abducted Madeleine McCann</sub>

[DCI]

It is very interesting that both Jane Tanner and Smith both say the man with the child did not resemble a tourist.
Also the age of the man the height and what he was wearing are very similar.    Add that to the fact that they both carried a child aged about 3/4, with blonde hair,wearing light coloured pyjama's who had bare feet, and it would sound as though it was the same person that they saw.

As to the frill on the bottom of the pyjama's,   Jane said at first she had said she thought it was  a turn up on the bottom of the pyjama's,   then she learned that Madeleine's pyjama's had a frill on the bottom of them which could have been what she saw.

Also another point someone made  that Madeleine's pyjama's were shorts and so Jane wouldn't have been able to see the bottom of them.   Remember Madeleine was small for her age,   so the shorts could have been longer on her than they would have been on a taller child of her age.

Is it possible this man met up with an accompolice before carrying on down to the beach area?    Maybe as there was a certain time and place he had to be at?

Madeleine's pyjama bottoms were not shorts, nor was the top long sleeved, Lace, as some have said.

http://www.algarveresident.com/18846-12050/algarve/third-conference-and-still-nothing-new

Third conference - and still nothing new...
Updated: 11-May-2007

A press release distributed to all journalists
confirmed that CCTV images collected from
several locations had been checked for leads.

It was also revealed that garments found during
searches by members of the public and handed
to the Polícia Judiciária were not Madeleine's.

It was confirmed that the McCann family and some
of their friends were once again interviewed in
Portimão to rule them out as suspects.

According to Chief Inspector Olegário Sousa, the
GNR searches are coming to an end.
 

 
Chief Inspector Olegário Sousa.

The photographs of the pyjamas three year old Madeleine was wearing were circulated to journalists, some three days after The Resident received the same photographs from Marks & Spencer and five days after The Resident received a description of the same pyjamas.

It appears that while the authorities have searched more than 200 Km2, they are still no nearer to finding Madeleine or the people that may have taken her.

Updated 19:00, May 10, 2007

DAY 7 OF THE DISAPPEARANCE OF MADELEINE McCANN

[faithlilly]

@ DCI

The trousers would have come just below the knew when the child was standing and would have rode up the leg if the child was being carried as Tanner recalls, making it impossible to discern any pattern.

As to the top, please explain ?

[Lace]

How do you know where the trousers would have ended?

As I said Madeleine was small for her age they could very well have fallen lower than that.

[faithlilly]

How do you know where the trousers would have ended?

As I said Madeleine was small for her age they could very well have fallen lower than that.

The trousers would still have ridden up making it impossible to see the top of them.

[DCI]

@ DCI

The trousers would have come just below the knew when the child was standing and would have rode up the leg if the child was being carried as Tanner recalls, making it impossible to discern any pattern.

As to the top, please explain ?

I didn't say they wouldn't. I said they were not shorts! Top ammended, not long sleeved, I meant.

This pic shows them well below the knee's.

[DCI]

The trousers would still have ridden up making it impossible to see the top of them.

What makes you think they would have ridden up? In bed, yes, but not while being carried!

[Benice]

All hot air and spin for we haven't got a bloody clue.   

DCI Redwood >>"I believe she is still alive because...one, she is alive and two, sadly she's not.  There is a real possiblity that she's alive."

Thus he just construed his initial assertion.  With logic like this God help you Madeleine.

I took that to mean that - although they believed she was alive when she was abducted from the apartment - because no-one knows why she was abducted, they did not know whether she had been kept alive or had been murdered.

Which is different to Amaral's theory that she died in the apartment.

I thought that was the message Andy Redwood was putting across.

     
 

[AnneGuedes]

Even if she had been in the upright position, the pants wouldn't have gone as far as on the faceless man sketch.
Why shouldn't Madeleine have a normal size ?

[Lace]

The trousers would still have ridden up making it impossible to see the top of them.

You don't know that.

It could be the man is pulling them further down in the way he is carrying her.

[Carana]

The News of the World claimed the detailed artist's impression was generated using information from a holidaymaker, who had been staying 600 yards from the McCanns in Praia da Luz. The associate editor of the News of the world, Gary Thompson, told Sky News: "The real significance is that the sketch has been shown to Jane Tanner, a member of the so-called Tapas Group. "You may remember she says she saw a man carrying a child. "We understand that Jane Tanner has confirmed the likeness."

Someone with longish hair in the back... Trying to imagine a side view, it may have been that person, or it may not have been. All she could really do is not exclude the possiblity.

There would presumably be a closer resemblance to that person than to a hypothetical passing teenager with a Mohican pink hairdo, a skinhead or a an octogenarian on a zimmer frame.

[faithlilly]

You don't know that.

It could be the man is pulling them further down in the way he is carrying her.

Try it then.

[Redblossom]

Someone with longish hair in the back... Trying to imagine a side view, it may have been that person, or it may not have been. All she could really do is not exclude the possiblity.

There would presumably be a closer resemblance to that person than to a hypothetical passing teenager with a Mohican pink hairdo, a skinhead or a an octogenarian on a zimmer frame.

It wasnt a matter of not excluding him, she said he bore an 80% resemblance. A rather big leap! How she missed his handlebar moustache though but noticed the creases in his trousers....besides there are issues with coopers stories but thats for another time

[Lace]

Try it then.

I don't have to,  it could happen.