Author Topic: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?  (Read 29416 times)

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Redblossom

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Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #60 on: June 27, 2013, 10:00:27 PM »
Loving your posts Red.

Very revealing!

you should post more yourself, you only come on here periodically to whinge, NEVER to discuss the case or anything surrounding it, just to slag people off, or target posters, lovely valued contributor arent you? Not, very revealing, yawwnn
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Forum readers might be  waiting for Your understanding of the sniffer dogs, the subject of thread, care to share? have you even got one?If not why not? And if not, why post on the thread slagging me off? Sweet dreams chuck, very revealing I agree


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AnneGuedes

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Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #61 on: June 27, 2013, 10:14:03 PM »
They don't pop up to debate but to run down, to bite. They parasite the thoughts and the assumptions of others in order to avoid to express themselves. They're picky, but don't propose anything. They have a unique obsession : searching, targeting the tiny real or supposed to be errors and play the righters of wrongs of the others' risks. They don't post, they control. They don't go ahead, they're waiting at the corner to preach at. They don't invent, they look out. They are warders. They feed on our thoughts and some seem to be particularly hungry.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #62 on: June 27, 2013, 10:27:52 PM »
They don't pop up to debate but to run down, to bite. They parasite the thoughts and the assumptions of others in order to avoid to express themselves. They're picky, but don't propose anything. They have a unique obsession : searching, targeting the tiny real or supposed to be errors and play the righters of wrongs of the others' risks. They don't post, they control. They don't go ahead, they're waiting at the corner to preach at. They don't invent, they look out. They are warders. They feed on our thoughts and some seem to be particularly hungry.

 8@??)(
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline sadie

Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #63 on: June 27, 2013, 11:03:12 PM »
Been there and done it.

These days I prefer to read the sceptics and have a laugh at their ridiculous theories being repeated year in, year out.

When will they understand that the McCanns have never been charged with anything and never will be.

Carry on.....

 8@??)( Understated and brilliant!  ... their ridiculous theories being repeated year in, year out.... to laugh at !
When will they understand that the McCanns have never been charged with anything and never will be.

Offline Benice

Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #64 on: June 28, 2013, 12:26:09 AM »
This is trying to rewrite history. How could dogs' "swabs" reveal wrong or right doing by the McCanns ? The blood was in fact in too bad condition to be plainly identified, but enough to determine it wasn't Madeleine's.
What about the cadaver scent Eddie picked up in the flat ?
No forensic, no proof. But the alerts occurred. As Icabodcrane noticed (it was before you arrived on this forum, Benice), what could have pushed Eddie to alert ? Whatever the scent that made Eddie alert, it was only in the 5A and not in the flats occupied by the group or by the McCanns after Madeleine vanished.
And Icabodcrane goes further  : if a dog had indicated the presence of explosives in a plane you're intending to flight on, but no bomb had been found, would you embark as invited to by the crew with a "well come on board, there's nothing to fear". Would you ?

Yes Anne the alerts did occur.  But what you consistently fail to acknowledge (in Eddie's case)  is Martin Grime's assertion that no evidential value can be attributed to those alerts unless they were corroberrated.   They were NOT corroberated, therefore they have no value as evidence.     The reasons why they cannot be considered as evidence without the essential corroberration  have been posted here several times.   I cannot believe you have missed them all.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

AnneGuedes

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Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #65 on: June 28, 2013, 12:40:27 AM »
Yes Anne the alerts did occur.  But what you consistently fail to acknowledge (in Eddie's case)  is Martin Grime's assertion that no evidential value can be attributed to those alerts unless they were corroberrated.   They were NOT corroberated, therefore they have no value as evidence.     The reasons why they cannot be considered as evidence without the essential corroberration  have been posted here several times.   I cannot believe you have missed them all.
What is this strange and paradoxical need that leads to built continuously a chipboard reality in order to have clear conscience when one vituperates or glorifies ? What deplorable evolution turned us strangers to nuance, to complexity, to shadows and distorted or vague lights, to this part of night in every one, to this offence to manichaeism  that intelligence is !

Offline Benice

Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2013, 01:05:54 AM »
What is this strange and paradoxical need that leads to built continuously a chipboard reality in order to have clear conscience when one vituperates or glorifies ? What deplorable evolution turned us strangers to nuance, to complexity, to shadows and distorted or vague lights, to this part of night in every one, to this offence to manichaeism  that intelligence is !

Fascinating Anne, but also totally incomprehensible and irrelevant.      We are talking about a normal ordinary family who went on holiday and while they were there their child was abducted.   Nothing has emerged to prove the McCAnns to be anything other than normal, decent, hardworking people, who were  extremely loving parents - having waited years before they finally managed to achieve parenthood.      Nothing has ever emerged from the woodwork to say otherwise, and believe you me, if the newspapers could have found something - anything  - on them  - they would have done so.        Their only 'crime' is that they made a human error - for which they and their daughter paid the most dreadful penalty.    In six years no-one has been able to come up with a credible theory which puts them in the frame.       In the meantime, the abductors(s) are still out there.   They must be highly delighted with folk such as yourself.


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Jazzy

Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2013, 06:33:38 AM »
They don't pop up to debate but to run down, to bite. They parasite the thoughts and the assumptions of others in order to avoid to express themselves. They're picky, but don't propose anything. They have a unique obsession : searching, targeting the tiny real or supposed to be errors and play the righters of wrongs of the others' risks. They don't post, they control. They don't go ahead, they're waiting at the corner to preach at. They don't invent, they look out. They are warders. They feed on our thoughts and some seem to be particularly hungry.

This is the entire point. Your thoughts and assumptions amount to what? Speculation, lies and libel. Thoughts and assumptions mean nothing compared to the rule of law. The law asserts the Mccanns are innocent, the evidence does the same.

There is nothing to propose to you. Just the facts.

Offline Chinagirl

Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2013, 07:42:16 AM »
Well said, both Jazzy and Benice.
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Offline Jazzy

Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2013, 08:43:48 PM »
Well said, both Jazzy and Benice.

Thanks Chinagirl, much appreciated. No reply though, no one wants to debate the facts it seems. Dogs don't lie, the finger points, normal people don't put forward points to debate. What facts? The Mccanns are officially innocent, there is no evidence against them. What else is there to say?

Redblossom

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Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #70 on: June 28, 2013, 08:48:47 PM »
Thanks Chinagirl, much appreciated. No reply though, no one wants to debate the facts it seems. Dogs don't lie, the finger points, normal people don't put forward points to debate. What facts? The Mccanns are officially innocent, there is no evidence against them. What else is there to say?

the fact that no concrete evidence was found to charge the mccanns does not make them innocent, they maybe, but no official in Portugal has said they are innocent, those are the facts, pls provide the evidence where any official said they are innocent, it just does not exist, the nearest you can get in english terms is they were bailed and released

Offline Jazzy

Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #71 on: June 28, 2013, 08:52:21 PM »
the fact that no concrete evidence was found to charge the mccanns does not make them innocent, they maybe, but no official in Portugal has said they are innocent, those are the facts, pls provide the evidence where any official said they are innocent, it just does not exist, the nearest you can get in english terms is they were bailed and released

Oh! Am I off your ignore list Redblossom?

Redblossom

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Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2013, 09:01:12 PM »
Oh! Am I off your ignore list Redblossom?

Obviously

Offline Jazzy

Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #73 on: June 28, 2013, 09:14:44 PM »
Idiot. You are about to go on mine.

Redblossom

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Re: Why did the sniffer dogs fail to find Madeleine?
« Reply #74 on: June 28, 2013, 09:16:54 PM »
Idiot. You are about to go on mine.

Cool by me


But before you go do remind us why the dogs never found madeleines scent in any direction of both bundleman and smithman



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