The breathtaking hypocrisy of those that support the McCanns

[Benita]

Yes ! And nobody will be amazed the PJ wondered why Mr Oldfield made the effort to get inside of the flat and didn't check on the children properly.
Mr Oldfield was the only person who cried in Portimao police station as Ms Tanner was the only crying person from the group we ever saw.. What actually made them cry ?

question for you anne why do you!! think they cried ??

[Angelo222]

It is hardly surprising that trust was lost between the Tapas group - including the McCanns - and the PJ.  And people wonder why the Tapas members wouldn't hop on a plane back for a reconstruction, it is abundantly clear that they feared being accused of a heinous crime.  So they did what you and I would do, they sought proper legal advice before deciding whether to return to Portugal or not.  And upon that legal advice they decided not to return.  Kate and Gerry McCannn, however, agreed to return to Portugal for a reconstruction, they knew that they were legally bound to return to Portugal as and when required, due to them being arguidos.

What did they fear more I find myself asking??   Was it the fear of being incriminated in some mystical crime or was it the fear of being found out??

Ultimately regardless of the spin and the acute changes in direction they must accept responsibility for what fell upon them.  It was their negligence which resulted in the loss of Madeleine and that applies regardless of what or who you believe.

They treated the investigation with disdain from the outset and then after the dust had settled criticised the Portuguese for of all things not looking for Madeleine.  Little wonder the good people of Luz turned against them.

[LagosBen]

What did they fear more I find myself asking??   Was it the fear of being incriminated in some mystical crime or was it the fear of being found out??

Ultimately regardless of the spin and the acute changes in direction they must accept responsibility for what fell upon them.  It was their negligence which resulted in the loss of Madeleine and that applies regardless of what or who you believe.

They treated the investigation with disdain from the outset and then after the dust had settled criticised the Portuguese for of all things not looking for Madeleine.  Little wonder the good people of Luz turned against them.

Some see it very differently. The McCanns were trying to stay within the  bounds of "Judicial Secrecy" ( they seemed to be the only ones). Whilst at the same time fighting for their missing child.

[C.Edwards]

What did they fear more I find myself asking??  Was it the fear of being incriminated in some mystical crime or was it the fear of being found out??

Nail.On.The.Head. 

[C.Edwards]

Some see it very differently. The McCanns were trying to stay within the  bounds of "Judicial Secrecy" ( they seemed to be the only ones). Whilst at the same time fighting for their missing child.

Oh right. Course they were. Now I know you're taking the proverbial!  They leaked information like sieves but made sure it came out via "a source", "a friend of", "someone known to..." and so on.  Their PR team earned their keep.

[gilet]

Oh right. Course they were. Now I know you're taking the proverbial!  They leaked information like sieves but made sure it came out via "a source", "a friend of", "someone known to..." and so on.  Their PR team earned their keep.

In your view even the leaks of information which the McCanns never had, but which we know occurred, were down to the McCanns and not the PJ. Yeah right!

And the journalists at Leveson who told us otherwise clearly are not as knowledgeable about the case as you, an internet warrior. Yeah right!

[TTSOFAFM]

What did they fear more I find myself asking??   Was it the fear of being incriminated in some mystical crime or was it the fear of being found out??

How about the fear of being incarcerated in a foreign jail on trumped up charge and having their children removed from them?  As I previously posted within 7 days of Madeleine going missing the PJ were trying to make Matthew Oldfield confess to a crime he did not commit.   That is enough to make any person frightened.

Of course not forgetting the images that were plastered all over the papers the day after Madeleine disappeared showing the bruises of Leonor Cipriano.



http://expresso.sapo.pt/policia-arguido-no-processo-das-agressoes-a-leonor-cipriano=f109569?sctx=27:50:Gon%25E7alo%2520Amaral:q

Foreign country.  Officer in charged accused of torture.  Friend accused of passing missing child through window.  I think those reasons are enough to make any person scared.  Don't you?

[Luz]

The resource of the feeble is to try to find  others that are (or make them seem) as evil as those that they try to defend.

They do not understand that nobody cares if there are corrupt judges, corrupt cops, lawyers, doctors, or the entire world...

What matters is that there was a little 3 year old child that disappeared and nobody knows what happened to her.

What matters is that those that should have been the first to try to find out what happened to her, never bothered to search for her.

After six years, those that should have put their energy in searching for their daughter have exhausted the Fund money, that the generous people from around the world gave them to help the search for that little girl, in hateful processes against people that have done more to try to find the child than themselves.

Who cares if a PJ from Lisbon was caught using adult meetings sites in the net? Does it make the McCann innocent?

[carlymichelle]

The resource of the feeble is to try to find  others that are (or make them seem) as evil as those that they try to defend.

They do not understand that nobody cares if there are corrupt judges, corrupt cops, lawyers, doctors, or the entire world...

What matters is that there was a little 3 year old child that disappeared and nobody knows what happened to her.

What matters is that those that should have been the first to try to find out what happened to her, never bothered to search for her.

After six years, those that should have put their energy in searching for their daughter have exhausted the Fund money, that the generous people from around the world gave them to help the search for that little girl, in hateful processes against people that have done more to try to find the child than themselves.

Who cares if a PJ from Lisbon was caught using adult meetings sites in the net? Does it make the McCann innocent?

excellnt post     the pros and the mcanns  dont give a  crap about    all that they just see GA      as  evil  kate    didnt even look because it was  too dark 

[gilet]

And that's the other one!  Oh boy, am I in trouble now.  <rolling eyes smiley>

Memory playing up eh?

Two cops from Portugal now informing you. Such clever cops to have got transferred all the way to Portugal, but wait, you claim they were there in 2007 but....

I might write a little article about the reliability of sources, especially those who flit from one police force to another like time travellers.

Do they by any chance know your boss or your sister?

[gilet]

The resource of the feeble is to try to find  others that are (or make them seem) as evil as those that they try to defend.

They do not understand that nobody cares if there are corrupt judges, corrupt cops, lawyers, doctors, or the entire world...

What matters is that there was a little 3 year old child that disappeared and nobody knows what happened to her.

What matters is that those that should have been the first to try to find out what happened to her, never bothered to search for her.

After six years, those that should have put their energy in searching for their daughter have exhausted the Fund money, that the generous people from around the world gave them to help the search for that little girl, in hateful processes against people that have done more to try to find the child than themselves.

Who cares if a PJ from Lisbon was caught using adult meetings sites in the net? Does it make the McCann innocent?

If there was any truth in this rant it might be worth reading but the line about people not searching is simply a complete lie.

Oh and very, very touchy about friend Paiva and his naughtiness I see.

Don't you see how badly that reflects on the incompetent team that was supposed to be searching for Madeleine?

Your constant carping about money is now looking not so much like cynicism but jealousy and very badly informed jealousy at that.

[Luz]

If there was any truth in this rant it might be worth reading but the line about people not searching is simply a complete lie.

Oh and very, very touchy about friend Paiva and his naughtiness I see.

Don't you see how badly that reflects on the incompetent team that was supposed to be searching for Madeleine?

Your constant carping about money is now looking not so much like cynicism but jealousy and very badly informed jealousy at that.

No, I don't see how a male PJ's inability to suppress his sexual fantasies over an adult's website,  after 5 years that the case was filed, reflects on the case itself.

Anyway, it is not that PJ person that is going through a Court  Trial, so invoking him is a very coward attempt to divert attention from the main issue.

[carlymichelle]

No, I don't see how a male PJ's inability to suppress his sexual fantasies over an adult's website,  after 5 years that the case was filed, reflects on the case itself.

Anyway, it is not that PJ person that is going through a Court  Trial, so invoking him is a very coward attempt to divert attention from the main issue.

alot of pros live in the past  today isnt  relevent

[Jacinta]

So people who use the baby listening service should have social services involvement and parenting classes.

Rubbish!

Why is this baby listening service in the link allowed then?

This is only my personal thoughts. If they'd used the walk-around babysitting service or evening crèche and something happened to Madeleine then I'd think that the Ocean Club is partly responsible; not the McCanns, but they chose to check on their children every half hour (or so they say) so their children become their responsibility (or am I thinking to simplistically?) It doesn't matter if their checking was the same sort of routine as the walk-around babysitting service, it's that a child went missing while under their distant half-hourly supervision.

Couple that with the knowledge that Madeleine and one of her siblings had been crying the night before, asking why her parents hadn't come to them, then it gets a little more difficult for me to understand why they still went out the following night.

[ferryman]

alot of pros live in the past  today isnt  relevent

Does that mean we can all (pro or anti) leave the Almeida Interim Report behind?