Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?

[pegasus]

Have you ever wondered about the door moving as the patio door was slid open / and / or closed?  Or about there possibly being a window left open causing a draft (after the kiddies bedroom window was opened?)

But a theory which has a draft opening the door, must then seperately solve the  problem, how come the child started off in the room and then was not in the room.

By proposing a devious and admittedly almost impossible combination move (a child opening the door and then walking through the resulting opening) I can fool myself that I have solved both problems at once.

[pegasus]

That door was a load of BS!

That is the type of great line that the two men up in the balcony used to come up with, my favourites.
Yes I see the idea - being in that room was invented, so that means the door movements must be invented, and so the open window must be invented too, and so on, but IMO it's incorrect.

[John]

Going back a little someone made reference to Gerry's contention that the abductor might have been hiding behind the door while he went to the toilet.  Surely that isn't a realistic proposition since the window wasn't open at that point?

[pegasus]

Going back a little someone made reference to Gerry's contention that the abductor might have been hiding behind the door while he went to the toilet.  Surely that isn't a realistic proposition since the window wasn't open at that point?

(I think it was shutter noise but) it's possible to propose the flushing noise woke the child

[sadie]

But a theory which has a draft opening the door, must then seperately solve the  problem, how come the child started off in the room and then was not in the room.

By proposing a devious and admittedly almost impossible combination move (a child opening the door and then walking through the resulting opening) I can fool myself that I have solved both problems at once.

Because she was abducted, Pegasus

If only you could free yourself from preconceptions it would all become very clear to you.  Cos you are a clever analytical guy, BUT your preconceptions keep pulling you back.  Imo

Btw are you male or female?  He or she?

Going back a little someone made reference to Gerry's contention that the abductor might have been hiding behind the door while he went to the toilet.  Surely that isn't a realistic proposition since the window wasn't open at that point?

Whats wrong with that ,  John?

Almost certainly the abductor came in via the front door.

Door Out of sight
No-one passes it at all
Set back in a black hole
Amaral said no-one came in or went out throught the windows.... no fibres

He came and went with Madeleine via the front door ... almost without doubt.


Had a key

[pegasus]

... If only you could free yourself from preconceptions ...

That there was a conspiracy, the open window and shutter were faked or invented, one or more of the group were faking behaviour during dinner time, someone carried a body through the street so you could see it, the child did not walk into another room, the child bedroom scene was staged - these are a few of the preconceptions which I now think are not true.

[sadie]

That there was a conspiracy, the open window and shutter were faked or invented, one or more of the group were faking behaviour during dinner time, someone carried a body through the street so you could see it, the child did not walk into another room, the child bedroom scene was staged - these are a few of the preconceptions which I now think are not true.

I gather Pegasus that you are changing your views as you find things out?  That is healthy.  Something that I have been doing for 7 years and my thoughts are still evolving according to what I am finding.


Some on here will not budge an inch.    They are stuck solidly in a groove.  TBH, they have allowed themselves to be suckered into the position they are now in by listening to lies, disinformation and downright myths

.... and they dont seem to have the understanding (or wish?) to get out of that groove.

[pegasus]

changing your views as you find things out?

Yes that is how a theory improves.
Long way to go though.
Not even completely sure I have time of exit correct.

[Martina]

Can anyone seriously lay their eyes on that cramped space and understand WHY Gerry did not hear/see/smell/sense his abductor?

And how the abductor managed to maneuver in there, in darkness, without crashing into anything.

[pegasus]

And how the abductor managed to maneuver in there, in darkness, without crashing into anything.

The solution is the child opened the bedroom door IMO.

[Silkywhiskers]

The solution is the child opened the bedroom door IMO.

Do tell - did the child also "jemmy" open the shutters and cause a whirling gust to blow through the window just at the correct dramatic moment?

And what of the McCanns insistence that the child would not leave the bed voluntarily, under any circumstances?

[pegasus]

Do tell - did the child also "jemmy" open the shutters ...

No, but leaving the room is caused by shutter noise IMO.

[Silkywhiskers]

No, but leaving the room is caused by shutter noise IMO.

How could she leave the room if she was deceased?

[pegasus]

How could she leave the room if she was deceased?

An alive child opened the bedroom door and walked another room IMO.
If it was me I would probably have gone into the other bedroom first.

 

[Silkywhiskers]

And where does my statement, that the child walked into another room, in any way criticise Eddie and his handler?

It means the child was still alive when she vanished.

Eddie and Grime indicate the opposite.

As does the dig in PDL right outside the back door....