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Offline Lace

Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« on: November 21, 2013, 11:34:04 AM »
In Amaral's book he talks about Calpol being a sedative and that we Brits give it to our children to help them sleep.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2013, 06:58:50 PM by John »

Offline colombosstogey

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2013, 11:52:37 AM »
In Amaral's book he talks about Calpol being a sedative and that we Brits give it to our children to help them sleep.

In my days it was Phenergan. I knew a few mums who would give their children phenergan when they were teething and I have known mums to give them phenergan just to get a good nights rest, so its not unusual well it wasnt then lol. I hasten to add I did it once for teething and it had the opposite effect on my baby it made her wide awake lol.

Offline Lace

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2013, 11:53:52 AM »
If Amaral saying we Brits leave our children alone,   makes you worried and concerned.   Imagine how the McCann's felt when he wrote his book with innuendos that they give Madeleine calpol for her to sleep.   That sometimes a child becomes 'unwanted'   that Kate was expressing that Madeleine had become am inconvenience because she had to be carried around.

Imagine being accused of having someone sexually attracted to children as a friend.   Of faking an abduction and of hiding your child's body?

Would you be feeling a tad concerned or would you want to sue?

Offline Lace

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2013, 11:56:07 AM »
In my days it was Phenergan. I knew a few mums who would give their children phenergan when they were teething and I have known mums to give them phenergan just to get a good nights rest, so its not unusual well it wasnt then lol. I hasten to add I did it once for teething and it had the opposite effect on my baby it made her wide awake lol.

Calpol is not a sedative.    The reason the child sleeps is because it takes away the pain the child has.

Offline colombosstogey

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2013, 12:00:16 PM »
If Amaral saying we Brits leave our children alone,   makes you worried and concerned.   Imagine how the McCann's felt when he wrote his book with innuendos that the give Madeleine calpol for her to sleep.   That sometimes a child becomes 'unwanted'   that Kate was expressing that Madeleine had become am inconvenience because she had to be carried around.

Imagine being accused of having someone sexually attracted to children as a friend.   Of faking an abduction and of hiding your child's body?

Would you be feeling a tad concerned or would you want to sue?

Well my dear its totally irrelevant because I would never HAVE LEFT MY CHILDREN IN THE FIRST PLACE, so non of this would be relevant.

Ask your self.

Your child is left each night you find out from the child that she had been awake crying a lot the night before.

What would you do?

a. Stay in that night
b. Give the child a mild sedative to help her settle, then go out?

How can you possibly tell me that it was good PARENTING to leave children alone like this even more so after the child was awake the night before. ARE YOU SERIOUS?

Tell me this.

The child was known to have sleeping problems, this is FACT. When you take children away on holiday they get very excited and this can make it very hard to settle them in the evening.

How can 3 children on the night of the 3rd be so SOUND ASLEEP non of them woke up even with a flat full of people?

Tell me how is this possible.

It isnt rocket science that think that perhaps the children were sedated to enable them to settle better. There is actually NOTHING wrong in that as long as it isnt abused.

Oh as to the sexually attracted then they need to sue The Gaspars who made that statement it wasnt Amaral who made that statement but doctor FRIENDS OF THE MCCANNS...Why would they do that?

No I wouldnt sue because it wouldnt have happened anyway.

Offline colombosstogey

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2013, 12:07:19 PM »
Calpol is not a sedative.    The reason the child sleeps is because it takes away the pain the child has.

It was and it did contain a mild sedative. Drugs were changed after 2009. I know when my kids were young it did.

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/aches-and-pains/medicines/calpol-night.html

Offline Lace

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2013, 12:18:29 PM »
It was and it did contain a mild sedative. Drugs were changed after 2009. I know when my kids were young it did.

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/aches-and-pains/medicines/calpol-night.html

Calpol night wasn't sold until September 2007 -

The new product range will be available nationwide from September 2007 and is being supported by a multi-million pound integrated advertising and public relations campaign.

Offline colombosstogey

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2013, 12:32:42 PM »
Calpol night wasn't sold until September 2007 -

The new product range will be available nationwide from September 2007 and is being supported by a multi-million pound integrated advertising and public relations campaign.

Pointless arguement there were other meds on the market which had a sedative effect.

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2013, 12:42:15 PM »
Pointless arguement there were other meds on the market which had a sedative effect.

Of course there are. Dozens. But Amaral specifically cited Calpol - which is NOT a seditive - the active ingredient is paracetamol.


ferryman

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2013, 01:05:13 PM »
Of course there are. Dozens. But Amaral specifically cited Calpol - which is NOT a seditive - the active ingredient is paracetamol.

Amaral also made reference to calpol night, in a way which might have led the unwary reader to suppose the McCanns gave it Madeleine:

In recent years, the possible presence of an antihistamine with sedative effects in Calpol has aroused great controversy. Recently, the same laboratory put Calpol Night on the market, whose ingredients clearly list that it contains an antihistamine.

It was lleft to Joana Morais, in a perfectly disgraceful blog, to take up the baton of calpol night.

Certainly by UK law, Amaral's reference would be libel.

Not sure about Portuguese.

The irony is that the whole subject of calpol  (and all variants thereof) was raised because the McCanns, themselves, frankly told the PJ they had calpol with them on that holiday, but hadn't used it.

An odd think to 'admit' if they had something sinister to hide in respect of its use ...
« Last Edit: November 21, 2013, 01:26:19 PM by ferryman »

Offline colombosstogey

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2013, 01:06:19 PM »
Of course there are. Dozens. But Amaral specifically cited Calpol - which is NOT a seditive - the active ingredient is paracetamol.

I take one paracetamol at night it settles me. Is it a sedative I have no idea but it does the trick. I have nerve pain, which paracetamol would not touch, but one tablet really does help me sleep. Rather do that then be on horrible drugs or even diazepam.

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2013, 01:27:06 PM »
I take one paracetamol at night it settles me. Is it a sedative I have no idea but it does the trick. I have nerve pain, which paracetamol would not touch, but one tablet really does help me sleep. Rather do that then be on horrible drugs or even diazepam.

I am sorry to hear that.  Parcetamol is a useful because of its anti inflammatory qualities, and although it does not help with nerve pain it may be a reduction in associated inflation which enable you to settle. 

However, it does not sedate.

ferryman

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2013, 01:35:31 PM »

sed•a•tive (ˈsɛd ə tɪv)

adj.
1. tending to calm or soothe.
2. assuaging pain or allaying irritability or excitement.

Calpol could very easily be described as a sedative under the dictionary reference highlighted above, this was possibly the context in which Goncalo Amaral was referencing !

No it couldn't.

Medicines that take away pain are analgesics.

However, children (like adults) free of pain sleep better than children (or adults) in pain.

 Parcetamol is a useful because of its anti inflammatory qualities,


Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs control inflammation

Paracetamol is not an anti-inflammatory drug.

Something like Ibuprofene would be an NSAID drug.

« Last Edit: November 21, 2013, 01:39:06 PM by ferryman »

Offline Benice

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2013, 01:49:04 PM »
If it assuages pain it may well be referred to as a sedative.

Is there any evidence that the children were in pain?   If not then pain relief would make absolutely no difference to them.     

e.g. I don't have toothache.   If I take pain relief -  I still won't have toothache.    So it has no affect at all on me.

The Calpol Kate had with her was not a sedative and contained no sedative properties.   This has been discussed at great length and proved many times - over the years.


The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

ferryman

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2013, 04:31:04 PM »
Oxford dictionary definition of sedative-

a drug taken for its calming or sleep-inducing effect

Feel free to re-write the Oxford dictionary should you like BUT Calpol does have a calming effect on illnesses like teething pains, high temperatures etc. in children and adolescents !

Try the British National Formulary:

More clearly:

PARACETAMOL(Acetaminophen)
Additional information
 

interactions (Paracetamol).
Indications
 

mild to moderate pain, pyrexia (pyrexia with discomfort in children)
Cautions
 

alcohol dependence; max. daily infusion dose 3 g in patients with hepatocellular insufficiency, chronic alcoholism, chronic malnutrition, or dehydration; before administering, check when paracetamol last administered and cumulative paracetamol dose over previous 24 hours; interactions: Appendix 1 (paracetamol)
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