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Offline John

Here we have the dogs inspecting a selection of clothes, shoes and a suitcase.  View from 58.03


As the clothes are all packed together in the box there will be cross-contamination from the outset.
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Here we have the dogs inspecting a selection of clothes, shoes and a suitcase.  View from 58.03


As the clothes are all packed together in the box there will be cross-contamination from the outset.

Lets not forget, the clothes had already been laid out once, in a place deemed, not clean, and not acceptable.
Amaral had a phone call and was ordered to find a cleaner, better place.
Before I get called a liar, Read Amarals own words.
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The biggest mystery about both inspections at the villa and (even more so) following at the gym is that Madeleine never lived in either place.

So why the searches?

Mark Harrison recommended inspections of the holiday apartments, the Murats' place, cars owned or driven by Robert Murat and areas in and around Praia da Luz.

That was it.

Heaven knows where the rest came from ...
« Last Edit: December 12, 2013, 10:47:32 AM by John »

Offline Eleanor

Here we have the dogs inspecting a selection of clothes, shoes and a suitcase.

http://blip.tv/duarte-levy/vid%C3%A9o-d-eddie-keela-avec-les-v%C3%AAtements-1278993

As the clothes are all packed together in the box there will be cross-contamination from the outset.

The biggest mystery about both inspections at the villa and (even more so) following at the gym is that Madeleine never lived in either place.

So why the searches?

Mark Harrison recommended inspections of the holiday apartments, the Murats' place, cars owned or driven by Robert Murat and areas in and around Praia da Luz.

That was it.

Heaven knows where the rest came from ...

And Mark Harrison was involved in publicising The Dogs just as Martin Grime was retiring.  The money from this exercise went into Martin Grime's Company.  As did the money from Jersey.  All very sniffy.

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Here we have the dogs inspecting a selection of clothes, shoes and a suitcase.

http://blip.tv/duarte-levy/vid%C3%A9o-d-eddie-keela-avec-les-v%C3%AAtements-1278993

As the clothes are all packed together in the box there will be cross-contamination from the outset.

The biggest mystery about both inspections at the villa and (even more so) following at the gym is that Madeleine never lived in either place.

So why the searches?

Mark Harrison recommended inspections of the holiday apartments, the Murats' place, cars owned or driven by Robert Murat and areas in and around Praia da Luz.

That was it.

Heaven knows where the rest came from ...

And Mark Harrison was involved in publicising The Dogs just as Martin Grime was retiring.  The money from this exercise went into Martin Grime's Company.  As did the money from Jersey.  All very sniffy.

Yep!

It's not clear whether South Yorkshire Police received payment for the deployment of Eddie and Keela to PdL or not.

What is certain is that Eddie never went near an American body farm ...

Offline Eleanor

Here we have the dogs inspecting a selection of clothes, shoes and a suitcase.

http://blip.tv/duarte-levy/vid%C3%A9o-d-eddie-keela-avec-les-v%C3%AAtements-1278993

As the clothes are all packed together in the box there will be cross-contamination from the outset.

The biggest mystery about both inspections at the villa and (even more so) following at the gym is that Madeleine never lived in either place.

So why the searches?

Mark Harrison recommended inspections of the holiday apartments, the Murats' place, cars owned or driven by Robert Murat and areas in and around Praia da Luz.

That was it.

Heaven knows where the rest came from ...

And Mark Harrison was involved in publicising The Dogs just as Martin Grime was retiring.  The money from this exercise went into Martin Grime's Company.  As did the money from Jersey.  All very sniffy.

Yep!

It's not clear whether South Yorkshire Police received payment for the deployment of Eddie and Keela to PdL or not.

What is certain is that Eddie never went near an American body farm ...

Nope, North Yorkshire Police did not receive the money for this deployment.  Martin Grime had already retired, taking Eddie and Keela with him.
Quite possibly he was still technically employed by The Police since he was on Retirement Leave, but they were far from happy about what he was purporting as fact.

Also The Licence of Competency for Eddie had run out by then.

Offline John

Just noticed some funny editing in that video, of Levy's. There are 2 takes of the clothes, one after the other. In the first one the dog does not alert to Kate's trousers, in the second it does. Now we all know Levy is as bent as a nine bob note, but he really should try harder.

There are two different dogs doing the test.  The first one is done by Keela who doesn't react while Eddie does the second attempt and does react.  Please correct me if this is wrong.



Video of the dogs testing the clothing.
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If anyone has a better video link to the dog tests can they post it please.  8((()*/
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Offline Eleanor

Just noticed some funny editing in that video, of Levy's. There are 2 takes of the clothes, one after the other. In the first one the dog does not alert to Kate's trousers, in the second it does. Now we all know Levy is as bent as a nine bob note, but he really should try harder.

There are two different dogs doing the test.  The first one is done by Keela who doesn't react while Eddie does the second attempt and does react.  Please correct me if this is wrong.



Video of the dogs testing the clothing.

I think that Eddie is the first one, and Keela is the other one.  But Eddie is the manic one.  Some Spaniels are manic.  Lovely dogs, mind.

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Here we have the dogs inspecting a selection of clothes, shoes and a suitcase.

http://blip.tv/duarte-levy/vid%C3%A9o-d-eddie-keela-avec-les-v%C3%AAtements-1278993

As the clothes are all packed together in the box there will be cross-contamination from the outset.

The biggest mystery about both inspections at the villa and (even more so) following at the gym is that Madeleine never lived in either place.

So why the searches?

Mark Harrison recommended inspections of the holiday apartments, the Murats' place, cars owned or driven by Robert Murat and areas in and around Praia da Luz.

That was it.

Heaven knows where the rest came from ...

And Mark Harrison was involved in publicising The Dogs just as Martin Grime was retiring.  The money from this exercise went into Martin Grime's Company.  As did the money from Jersey.  All very sniffy.

Yep!

It's not clear whether South Yorkshire Police received payment for the deployment of Eddie and Keela to PdL or not.

What is certain is that Eddie never went near an American body farm ...

Nope, North Yorkshire Police did not receive the money for this deployment.  Martin Grime had already retired, taking Eddie and Keela with him.
Quite possibly he was still technically employed by The Police since he was on Retirement Leave, but they were far from happy about what he was purporting as fact.

Also The Licence of Competency for Eddie had run out by then.

Nope, North Yorkshire Police did not receive the money for this deployment.  Martin Grime had already retired, taking Eddie and Keela with him.
Quite possibly he was still technically employed by The Police since he was on Retirement Leave, but they were far from happy about what he was purporting as fact.


Eleanor, I've not the slightest reason to doubt what you say  (except that it was South Yorkshire Police and the dogs' licences ran out in Jersey); copious reason to suppose you are right.

But do you have verification of that?
« Last Edit: April 09, 2013, 10:08:10 PM by ferryman »

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That is my recollection too. He was charging about £1000 a day.

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That is my recollection too. He was charging about £1000 a day.

High costs - Mark Harrison stressed the high costs of the dogs. Their daily rate amounted to one thousand euros; the cost of the trip for them and their handlers was of 2750. There was also the cost of the passport for the animals (450 euros), adding to the lodging, the food and the transportation of the vehicles that were necessary for the animals.
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Sorry, Ferryman.  North Yorkshire, South Yorkshire?  Not sure if this matters as my maternal grandfather was a Lancashire man, and why was Yorkshire ever divided.  Who won The War of The Roses?  I really ought to look into that, as it might explain why my Yorkshire husband and I never quite got on.
Anyway, somedebody's Licence was about to run out. 

I sometimes feel really bad about dissing those lovely dogs, but then I know a bit more about dogs than most people do, and there was never a dog who couldn't be coerced.  It's that simple.

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Sorry, Ferryman.  North Yorkshire, South Yorkshire?  Not sure if this matters as my maternal grandfather was a Lancashire man, and why was Yorkshire ever divided.  Who won The War of The Roses?  I really ought to look into that, as it might explain why my Yorkshire husband and I never quite got on.
Anyway, somedebody's Licence was about to run out. 

I sometimes feel really bad about dissing those lovely dogs, but then I know a bit more about dogs than most people do, and there was never a dog who couldn't be coerced.  It's that simple.

The dogs have a useful purpose in that they can find actual bodies, beyond that I have my doubts as to how effective they really are.

Did everyone see the training exercise video taken while the dogs were on Jersey?
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Offline Benice

(including places Harrison had nothing to do with and disowned afterwards)
Ferryman , lol, have you got a link ?

Here is Harrison's summary of the searches:

The timeline of these searches was as follows:
 
On 31-07-07 the PJ conducted canine searches with a search warrant at apartments in Praia da Luz that had been previously occupied by the McCanns and their friends.
 
On 01-08-07 the PJ and GNR assisted by a canine, conducted searches on the eastern beach and wasteland in Praia da Luz.
 
On 02-08-07 the PJ conducted a search warrant at a villa in Praia da Luz currently occupied by the McCann family.
 
Later the same day PJ officers conducted a screening procedure involving items removed from the McCann’s villa
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On 03-08-07 PJ and GNR officers were given instruction based on translated extracts from NPIA doctrine on search management and procedures. This focused on search procedures relating to buildings and vehicles.
 
On 04-08-07 and 05-08-07 a search warrant was executed at the villa and gardens belonging to the PJ suspect Robert Murat. This search involved both PJ and GNR personnel supported by civil defence, geophysical equipment operators and a canine handler.
 
On 06-08-07 ten vehicles were searched associated to the enquiry.
 
On 07-08-07 the western beach and remaining wasteland areas were searched using canine and GNR personnel.
 
On 08-08-07 the drains around the apartment block where Madeleine McCann disappeared from were subject to a visual inspection by P


Inspections at the villa and the gym are both summarised (without description) as "PJ exercises"

While Harrison did recommend an inspection of vehicles, he recommended, only, that cars owned or driven by Murat should be inspected. 

One of those never made it (a car hired by Murat).  8 Harrison said nothing about did.

Harrison gives no clue who took part in that exercise.

The only searches Harrison owns UK participation in are the ones he recommended: the holiday apartments, the Murats' place and areas in and around PdL

That's it.

Can anyone clarify this please.   (in red)

Does this mean that the clothing etc was removed from the Villa AFTER the dog search?

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                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal