The crying incident as reported by Kate McCann.

[Lace]

I have been wondering if the crying Mrs. Fenn heard and the crying Madeleine spoke about are one and the same.

Madeleine said 'why didn't you come when Sean and I were crying'       Kate McCann said that Amelie woke up on the Tuesday night crying.      Amelie woke Sean and Madeleine.     Mrs. Fenn heard Amelie crying and then Sean,  then she heard Madeleine calling 'Daddy'.

Madeleine then said on the Thursday morning 'why didn't you come when Sean and I were crying'   meaning when Amelie woke them up.    Children very often get the days mixed up and it was on her mind as she went into her parents bedroom where she stayed the rest of the night.

[AnneGuedes]

Mrs Fenn's statement


She did not have anything to report for the 2nd May, because she was only home at night.
She wasn't home in the evening, only later, meaning she slept at home.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm


I don't understand this bit. Can anyone translate the Portuguese?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P9/09_VOLUME_IXa_Page_2413.jpg

Lines 27 and 28 I believe

She wasn't home in the evening, only later, meaning she slept at home.

[VIXTE]

She wasn't home in the evening, only later, meaning she slept at home.

Why the 'evening' is mentioned at all, when the children cried at night.. around midnight?

[Lace]

Mrs. Fenns statement is confusing,   she says her niece visited her on the morning of the 3rd of May and saw a man.

I don't think the niece was there on the 3rd of May.

The whole statement could be wrong for all we know.

[Redblossom]

She wasn't home in the evening, only later, meaning she slept at home.

Oh I see, thanks Anne

@Lace
Her niece was definitely there on the 3rd, though her statement is confusing as she had difficulty remembering whether she saw the man early or later in the day

[Lace]

Oh I see, thanks Anne

@Lace
Her niece was definitely there on the 3rd, though her statement is confusing as she had difficulty remembering whether she saw the man early or later in the day

Oh right, thanks Red.

Strange her niece didn't mention the crying incidence.

[Redblossom]

Oh right, thanks Red.

Strange her niece didn't mention the crying incidence.

Maybe Mrs Fenn didn't relay it to her, and I can't think of any particular reason why she would have.

[ferryman]

The worst thing for me out of all of it...

Why is not the worst thing for you out of all of it that a little girl was abducted from her bed?

[ferryman]

Oh right, thanks Red.

Strange her niece didn't mention the crying incidence.

It is strange.

I strongly incline to the belief that the most likely reason is that neither did Mrs Fenn ....

[Estuarine]

Why is not the worst thing for you out of all of it that a little girl was abducted from her bed?

The worst thing for me is that a little girl went on holiday and did not return and no one has the remotest idea of her fate apart from the guilty parties who ever they may be. The rest is speculation evidenced by the fact that no realistic proposition is in the frame let alone anyone having been charged.

[Redblossom]

It is strange.

I strongly incline to the belief that the most likely reason is that neither did Mrs Fenn ....

Yes, we know, the PJ made it all up for some reason but Mrs Fenn signed her statement anyway


maybe she was tortured



 >@@(*&)

[ferryman]

Yes, we know, the PJ made it all up for some reason but Mrs Fenn signed her statement anyway

Consider all the facts.

Mrs Fenn wasn't interviewed until about 3 months after the crime -- an extraordinary fact, given that she was the person in closest proximity to the crime when the crime was committed, but perhaps not so extraordinary if, in fact, she had nothing very particular to say about it

Advanced billing of Mrs Fenn's interview was about a crime of which she, herself, was a victim, a break-in and attempted burglary of her own flat.

Mrs Fenn, herself, is on record in a verbatim quote as saying she did not realise the holiday apartment was occupied.

The very first people to say anything about Madeleine crying, way before they were made arguidos, were Kate and Gerry McCann ...

[Redblossom]

Consider all the facts.


Mrs Fenn, herself, is on record in a verbatim quote as saying she did not realise the holiday apartment was occupied.

False and misleading statement there, she said nothing of the sort, pleeeease don't do another groundhog day....

[ferryman]

False and misleading statement there, she said nothing of the sort, pleeeease don't do another groundhog day....

Pamela Fenn, 81, lives above the apartment where Madeleine disappeared and is reported to have told police she heard Madeleine screaming below.
But yesterday she broke her silence to say it was "absolute rubbish" she had made any such claims to police. Mrs Fenn said: "I didn't even know that family was in there."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-481485/Madeleines-mother-quizzed-Portuguese-police.html#ixzz2tb5BhxGW
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[Redblossom]

Pamela Fenn, 81, lives above the apartment where Madeleine disappeared and is reported to have told police she heard Madeleine screaming below.
But yesterday she broke her silence to say it was "absolute rubbish" she had made any such claims to police. Mrs Fenn said: "I didn't even know that family was in there."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-481485/Madeleines-mother-quizzed-Portuguese-police.html#ixzz2tb5BhxGW
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Oh dear

A) saying she didn't know the flat was occupied is not the same as saying she didn't know that family or any other for that matter was in there

B) in her statement she describes seeing them during the week, oh, but, it was altered you think by police

the minute you take a mail or any other article over police statements is the minute hive totally lost your argument IMO