Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..

[Lyall]

It's the first time I've ever seen anyone attempt to flesh out a scenario in which the McCanns have lied, and it's just as ridiculous as I expected it to be. Utter, utter nonsense.

But then nobody has ever out forward a believable hypothetical scenario in which things didn't happen the way the McCanns and their friends have said they happened.

Lied is old fashioned, Victoria. Spun is a better word, and they have definitely done that- right from Day 1. But there could be more than one reason for that.

Truth can be stranger than fiction don't forget and the truth about what happened to Madeleine may well be something nobody has yet thought of.

[Wonderfulspam]

A desperate man with no better option.

"Sometimes people do things for reasons that even they cannot understand."
"An act of madness, an accident or sudden impulse can lead to consequences that people may never have imagined or intended."

[Victoria]

The McCanns have never provided a believable abduction scenario, they tried & it's detail has been changed with the passage of time.

The police would seem to disagree with you, since it's abduction that they are investigating. Besides, it's not the victims' job to present a scenario. They accounted for the events of the day and their daughter is missing. The rest is up to the police.

[Wonderfulspam]

The police would seem to disagree with you, since it's abduction that they are investigating. Besides, it's not the victims' job to present a scenario. They accounted for the events of the day and their daughter is missing. The rest is up to the police.

Yes, they gave various accounts didn't they. Kate even felt the need to amend various aspects of her account in a book several years later.

[Lyall]

The police would seem to disagree with you, since it's abduction that they are investigating. Besides, it's not the victims' job to present a scenario. They accounted for the events of the day and their daughter is missing. The rest is up to the police.

They are not the victims. Their daughter is (and other children).

[Mr Gray]

Lied is old fashioned, Victoria. Spun is a better word, and they have definitely done that- right from Day 1. But there could be more than one reason for that.

Truth can be stranger than fiction don't forget and the truth about what happened to Madeleine may well be something nobody has yet thought of.

I don't accept they have lied or spun...

The initial statements have inconsistencies due to translation issues..imo

[Lyall]

I don't accept they have lied or spun...

The initial statements have inconsistencies due to translation issues..imo

C'mon, Mitchell saying JT was 80% sure Creepyman was the man she saw at 9.15 (when she didn't see his face) was the biggest spin ever.

But it was not the first spin, or the last either.

[Victoria]

C'mon, Mitchell saying JT was 80% sure Creepyman was the man she saw at 9.15 (when she didn't see his face) was the biggest spin ever.

But it was not the first spin, or the last either.

Presumably then you think that Smith was also spinning when he says he was 80% sure the man he saw was Gerry, despite not seeing the face either.

[AnneGuedes]

Yes, they gave various accounts didn't they. Kate even felt the need to amend various aspects of her account in a book several years later.

SY ignores that, they didn't read her book..

[Lyall]

Presumably then you think that Smith was also spinning when he says he was 80% sure the man he saw was Gerry, despite not seeing the face either.

a) That's deflection, and b) He didn't do it on television.

[jassi]

The only proven liar with a connection to this case is the police officer who was coordinating the initial investigation, which sadly goes quite a long way to explaining why, six years later, we still don't know what happened to the poor child.

I don't see how you can connect the two as it explains nothing.

[AnneGuedes]

The only proven liar with a connection to this case is the police officer

[Mr Gray]

They are not the victims. Their daughter is (and other children).

 They are victims...weve had this discussion before

[stephen25000]

They are victims...weve had this discussion before

That is your opinion and no more than that.

[Mr Gray]

I don't see how you can connect the two as it explains nothing.

 you don't want to connect the two but they are connected...it destroys the integrity of the policeman who led the investigation