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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #450 on: April 08, 2014, 01:44:01 PM »
IMO SY are are not talking about the same man - as Monteiro died in 2009 and further incident(s) were then reported in 2010.

Unlike Monteiro - the man who broke into 12 properties did sexually assault children and it may be that only the intervention of the parents prevented him from carrying out assaults every time.

Also IIRC Euclides Monteiro was a Portuguese line of enquiry - not SY's.

the man who broke into 12 properties did sexually assault children

On 4 of those occaisions between 2004 & 2006 allegedly   & the remaining crimes were just burglaries.


it may be that only the intervention of the parents prevented him from carrying out assaults every time.

But none of them managed to get a decent look at his face, they just saw his pot belly, caught a whiff of B.O & heard the distant sound of bin lorries.

 
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« Reply #451 on: April 08, 2014, 01:49:05 PM »
looks like what the amendment suggest is that the phrase was taken out of context. without seeing the full interview we won't know so again...speculation is rife

Yeah, I did make that point a couple of days ago. If Andy Redwood is going to go throwing out lines like that with no follow up, what else is going to happen?

Surely he must've expected speculation would be rife.

It was a very unhelpful comment.

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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #452 on: April 08, 2014, 02:41:52 PM »
Yeah, I did make that point a couple of days ago. If Andy Redwood is going to go throwing out lines like that with no follow up, what else is going to happen?

Surely he must've expected speculation would be rife.

It was a very unhelpful comment.

Well, it appears the McCanns are unimpressed with it given that the home page of their official website still states :

"There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Madeleine has been harmed"

Which rather puts them at odds with Scotland Yard,  doesn't it  ?

Scotland Yard's  'thinking'  is not only that Madeleine may have been harmed,  but that she may have   died ...  right there in apartment 5A 

Something   must be  suggestive  of that possibility for it to be part of Scotland Yard's  'thinking'  on the case

I think it's the cadaver dog alerts

Offline jassi

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« Reply #453 on: April 08, 2014, 02:50:37 PM »
Well, it appears the McCanns are unimpressed with it given that the home page of their official website still states :

"There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Madeleine has been harmed"

Which rather puts them at odds with Scotland Yard,  doesn't it  ?

Scotland Yard's  'thinking'  is not only that Madeleine may have been harmed,  but that she may have   died ...  right there in apartment 5A 

Something   must be  suggestive  of that possibility for it to be part of Scotland Yard's  'thinking'  on the case

I think it's the cadaver dog alerts
   

How can they continue to say that with a straight face?
Just exactly do they think has befallen her -  living with benign parent substitutes ?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #454 on: April 08, 2014, 02:51:14 PM »
Well, it appears the McCanns are unimpressed with it given that the home page of their official website still states :

"There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Madeleine has been harmed"

Which rather puts them at odds with Scotland Yard,  doesn't it  ?

Scotland Yard's  'thinking'  is not only that Madeleine may have been harmed,  but that she may have   died ...  right there in apartment 5A 

Something   must be  suggestive  of that possibility for it to be part of Scotland Yard's  'thinking'  on the case

I think it's the cadaver dog alerts

you are taking every remark as an official statement that has been carefully thought through when the truth is probably the complete opposite. There is plenty to suggest Maddie is dead never mind harmed and I'm sure the McCanns would agree with this. there is no proof she has been harmed and this is no doubt what Gerry means

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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #455 on: April 08, 2014, 02:54:02 PM »
you are taking every remark as an official statement that has been carefully thought through when the truth is probably the complete opposite. There is plenty to suggest Maddie is dead never mind harmed and I'm sure the McCanns would agree with this. there is no proof she has been harmed and this is no doubt what Gerry means

But Redwood said Scotland Yard think Madeleine may have died   in the apartment

What is there that is 'suggestive'  of  that  ?  ...  other than the cadaver dog alerts

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #456 on: April 08, 2014, 02:56:36 PM »
But Redwood said Scotland Yard think Madeleine may have died   in the apartment

What is there that is 'suggestive'  of  that  ?  ...  other than the cadaver dog alerts

Redwood never used the word suggestive...it has always been apossibility that Maddie died in the appt...that's why the dogs were brought in

Offline John

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« Reply #457 on: April 08, 2014, 03:04:20 PM »
But Redwood said Scotland Yard think Madeleine may have died   in the apartment

What is there that is 'suggestive'  of  that  ?  ...  other than the cadaver dog alerts

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« Last Edit: April 08, 2014, 03:07:15 PM by John »
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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #458 on: April 08, 2014, 03:04:36 PM »
Redwood never used the word suggestive...it has always been apossibility that Maddie died in the appt...that's why the dogs were brought in

The message is in stark contrast to the previous one that Madeleine is a live and findable child though isn't it?

SY and the Mccanns appear to be reading from a different script theses days, as Icabod pointed out above.

Offline John

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« Reply #459 on: April 08, 2014, 03:09:31 PM »
The message is in stark contrast to the previous one that Madeleine is a live and findable child though isn't it?

SY and the Mccanns appear to be reading from a different script theses days, as Icabod pointed out above.

I agree, Redwood knows his every comment is poured over for clues.  He didn't say it if it wasn't significant.
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Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #460 on: April 08, 2014, 03:10:02 PM »
Redwood never used the word suggestive...it has always been apossibility that Maddie died in the appt...that's why the dogs were brought in

Scotland Yard would not announce that they think Madeleine may have died in the apartment if it was just some vague,  abstract possibility

For them to have presented a scenario in which a dead Madeleine is placed in apartment 5A, then it was because something was suggestive of that possibility

I think that  'something'  is the cadaver dog alerts

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #461 on: April 08, 2014, 03:22:35 PM »
Scotland Yard would not announce that they think Madeleine may have died in the apartment if it was just some vague,  abstract possibility

For them to have presented a scenario in which a dead Madeleine is placed in apartment 5A, then it was because something was suggestive of that possibility

I think that  'something'  is the cadaver dog alerts

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #462 on: April 08, 2014, 03:50:44 PM »
Scotland Yard would not announce that they think Madeleine may have died in the apartment if it was just some vague,  abstract possibility

For them to have presented a scenario in which a dead Madeleine is placed in apartment 5A, then it was because something was suggestive of that possibility

I think that  'something'  is the cadaver dog alerts

SY have not announced and they have not presented a scenario...that would be quite different.
redwood has made an off the cuff remark.IMO ...and as everything has pointed away from the McCanns there is a desperation to see anything that supports your theories. I think you will be proved wrong yet again....but for now you have some comfort that perhaps you have not been totally wrong for the last seven years...I think you have

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #463 on: April 08, 2014, 03:52:28 PM »
Scotland Yard would not announce that they think Madeleine may have died in the apartment if it was just some vague,  abstract possibility

For them to have presented a scenario in which a dead Madeleine is placed in apartment 5A, then it was because something was suggestive of that possibility

I think that  'something'  is the cadaver dog alerts

Combined with 60-80% man walking toward the ocean carrying an inert child, IMO


the individual carried the child in his arms, with her head laying on the individual's shoulders to the right of the deponent. He adds that he did not hold the child in a comfortable position.

Questioned, says that the individual did not speak nor did the child as she was in a deep sleep.


She did not see the child's face because she was lying against the individual's left shoulder in a vertical position against the individual. She appeared to be sleeping.

Her arms were suspended along her body and were not around the individual's neck.

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Offline slartibartfast

Re: DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.
« Reply #464 on: April 08, 2014, 04:31:52 PM »
...it has always been apossibility that Maddie died in the appt...that's why the dogs were brought in

Yes, and they appeared to confirm it.
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