Its most interesting given that we are led to believe that you have inside information that your claim I queried yesterday about Grime has been removed from the forum. But putting that to one side...
Your reply above in no way at all answers the point I made.
You stated in a previous post that if Eddie alerted and Keela did not alert, and I quote, that "= cadaver scent".
The point I made is that Martin Grime (who we are told you are supposedly able to defend because of some kind of inside knowledge that you claim to have) categorically did not equate such a situation where one dog alerted and the other did not to " = cadaver scent" as you have stated. You are totally misrepresenting what Martin Grime stated in his report.
He said that it was simply suggestive of "cadaver scent".
Why are you misrepresenting the report which Martin Grime wrote and exaggerating the significance by leaving out the doubt which he deliberately and repeatedly emphasised?
The point I made was totally different to the one you have answered. The point is not that the dogs have never been proven to be wrong but that they have not always been proven to be right. There is a very clear distinction between the two matters.
It is a fact that the EVRD dog has not been proven to be right in the McCann case. And no matter how many statistics and comments may be offered or however many times the failure of one dog to alert is made out to "= cadaver scent", the reality is that there is no proof that a dead body was in Apartment 5A or the McCann hire car. We only have to read the words of Martin Grime in his own personal report to understand that.
I repeat, why are you misrepresenting what he wrote?
No-one has ever said that the dog alerts have been ruled out and only last week Andy Redwood suggested very strongly that they are still very much in play when he said there was a possibility that Madeleine was not alive BEFORE she left the apartment. He did not say she might not be alive. He made a point of indicating a timeline for such a possibility. Not finding a body does not make them wrong and we must not forget that forensics did not rule Madeleine in and nor did they rule her out. Given the excellent track record of the dogs, it is highly unlikely that Eddie was wrong, he alerted to cadaver scent but he has no way of knowing whose scent that belonged to, it is up to the authorities to determine if he was alerting to Madeleine or to another person. Therefore it cannot be categorically stated that the dogs were wrong in the McCann case. Whether they were or not will not be known until the case is resolved.
Despite claiming you have studied cadaver odour for two years, you have a lot to learn in terms of the way that Eddie and Keela worked and the following demonstrates that clearly:
'however many times the failure of one dog to alert is made out to "= cadaver scent"''
Keela was never trained to alert to cadaver scent, so how could she be deemed to have failed to alert to it? She was trained to alert to blood only. Eddie on the other hand was trained to alert to both blood and cadaver scent only. Neither dogs were trained to alert to anything else so when they alerted it will only ever be to what they were trained to alert to and nothing else. Both dogs were deconditioned to alert to any other bodily fluids such as semen, urine etc unless they were mixed with blood. They were used in tandem as a fail safe method of determining what was being alerted to. Using two dogs, both who were trained to alert to blood and one who was trained to alert to cadaver scent made that possible. If Eddie was to alert, Martin would know that he had alerted to either blood or cadaver scent or both as they were the only two things he was trained for but would need to deploy Keela to validate Eddies alert. As Keela only alerted to blood, if she did not also alert then it would mean that as per his training Eddie was only alerting to the other scent he was trained to detect i.e. cadaver scent. If Keela also alerted to the same item/location as Eddie then the alerts would only be attributed to blood as Keela was not trained to detect cadaver scent. Legally a blood alert is the only alert that authorities can accept as it can be proven what it is the dogs alerted to. Where Keela does not alert but Eddie does alert Martin knows that = cadaver scent as that's what the dog was trained to detect but of course he cannot legally state that. It is up to police to identify any corroborative evidence to prove that Eddie was indeed alerting to where a body or body part had been, which is why Martin can only state that it is 'suggestive' of cadaver scent until either a body or other forensic corroborative evidence explaining the alert is found.
