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Offline pegasus

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #90 on: June 08, 2014, 05:16:00 PM »
Yes indeed. There could be many more witnesses that we simply haven't been told about yet. There is plenty of stuff that isn't available to the general public.
Yes I assume that the SY SmithMan appeal broadcast in the UK would have produced some new witnesses, about whom we know nothing (apart from possibly the hint in PT press of a uk tourist witness of a man carrying a child while talking english on his mobile).

Hypnotised by sightings of unconcealed carrying means: They start with one at 21:20, then suddenly get a revelation, and switch to another one at 22:00, then, if a recent press report is correct, supplement it with yet another one, now adding the even more ridiculous idea, that someone would be conspiring on his mobile while doing it. 
Meanwhile I am reading past cases, and point out that unconcealed carrying never happens in these cases, therefore it is likely that removal in this case would be by concealed carrying (carrying in something). All just IMO.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2014, 05:25:19 PM by pegasus »

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #91 on: June 08, 2014, 05:31:10 PM »
If you assume the man had come from 5A, and was walking fast, 3 minutes, maybe less, would be adequate, and it would take 5 minutes only if he walked slowly IMO.
I previously thought the Smith sighting was relevant.
But my current thinking is that there was no removal at any time close to 22:00.
The whole investigation seems to be hypnotised by the unconcealed carrying sightings.

IMO You are mistaken thinking Smithman carried Madeleine from 5A when he passed the Smiths. That didn't happen - he could get there far quicker by running  8)-)))
« Last Edit: June 08, 2014, 05:33:50 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline jassi

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #92 on: June 08, 2014, 05:35:52 PM »
Yes I assume that the SY SmithMan appeal broadcast in the UK would have produced some new witnesses, about whom we know nothing (apart from possibly the hint in PT press of a uk tourist witness of a man carrying a child while talking english on his mobile).

Hypnotised by sightings of unconcealed carrying means: They start with one at 21:20, then suddenly get a revelation, and switch to another one at 22:00, then, if a recent press report is correct, supplement it with yet another one, now adding the even more ridiculous idea, that someone would be conspiring on his mobile while doing it. 
Meanwhile I am reading past cases, and point out that unconcealed carrying never happens in these cases, therefore it is likely that removal in this case would be by concealed carrying (carrying in something). All just IMO.

As far as we know, Smithman exists, so are you suggesting it is totally innocent, or a ruse, or indeed something else?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #93 on: June 08, 2014, 05:38:28 PM »
As far as we know, Smithman exists, so are you suggesting it is totally innocent, or a ruse, or indeed something else?

IMO, Smithman is just another innocent father with his Maddie lookalike daughter, who just so happen to live in an Amish community & have never heard of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2014, 05:41:18 PM by Wonderfulspam »
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Offline jassi

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #94 on: June 08, 2014, 05:40:52 PM »
IMO, Just another innocent father with his Maddie lookalike daughter, who just so happen to live in an Amish community & has never heard of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Would an resident of an Amish community have have taken a holiday to such a degenerate place ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #95 on: June 08, 2014, 05:44:37 PM »
He couldn't speak to anybody with that strong accent. Best keep his mouth shut and supress efits  8)-)))
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pegasus

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #96 on: June 08, 2014, 06:02:48 PM »
But you have the evidence in front of you, that an innocent man carrying a child that night may remain undiscovered by police for many years. And remember that the smithman crimewatch program was never translated into portuguese for broadcast in Portugal. How is smithman supposed to watch it exactly? Hire a translator to translate while he watches the "strictly english language speakers only please" program?
« Last Edit: June 08, 2014, 06:05:46 PM by pegasus »

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #97 on: June 08, 2014, 06:05:25 PM »
Innocent Amishdad also happens to be a deaf mute & he's completely illiterate IMO.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #98 on: June 08, 2014, 06:07:59 PM »
But you have the evidence in front of you, that an innocent man carrying a child that night may remain undiscovered by police for many years. And remember that the smithman crimewatch program was never translated into portuguese and broadcast in Portugal.

Still can't get me 'ead round that.
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Offline pegasus

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #99 on: June 08, 2014, 06:14:47 PM »
IMO, Smithman is just another innocent father with his Maddie lookalike daughter, who just so happen to live in an Amish community & have never heard of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
The Crimewatch Smithman Appeal program was not translated into Amish dialects nor into Portuguese.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2014, 06:16:50 PM by pegasus »

Offline jassi

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #100 on: June 08, 2014, 06:20:32 PM »
But you have the evidence in front of you, that an innocent man carrying a child that night may remain undiscovered by police for many years. And remember that the smithman crimewatch program was never translated into portuguese for broadcast in Portugal. How is smithman supposed to watch it exactly? Hire a translator to translate while he watches the "strictly english language speakers only please" program?

Do Portuguese holiday in such places, or do they, too go abroad for their holidays?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #101 on: June 08, 2014, 06:25:27 PM »
The Crimewatch Smithman Appeal program was not translated into Amish dialects nor into Portuguese.

I thought everyone in Portugal following the case would know about Smithman from Amaral's book/doc and his interviews.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pegasus

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #102 on: June 08, 2014, 06:25:47 PM »
Still can't get me 'ead round that.
Apparantly no portuguese version, and then they had the cheek to charge me and probably you over £140 each.
Surprised no-one thought of this:
"Oh, I just had an idea, seems like a long shot, but while we're doing the english version of the Crimewatch program, why don't we run off a portuguese translated version, wouldn't cost much to dub the voices, and license it to SIC or TVI ?
 
« Last Edit: June 08, 2014, 06:34:22 PM by pegasus »

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #103 on: June 08, 2014, 08:25:39 PM »
Apparantly no portuguese version, and then they had the cheek to charge me and probably you over £140 each.
Surprised no-one thought of this:
"Oh, I just had an idea, seems like a long shot, but while we're doing the english version of the Crimewatch program, why don't we run off a portuguese translated version, wouldn't cost much to dub the voices, and license it to SIC or TVI ?

I read an article before, it's somewhere on here, one of the broadcasters claimed that they wanted to broadcast it but were refused permission by the BBC.

Here:

The BBC, in response to questions from The Portugal News over Crimewatch failing to make it on to the television screens of viewers in the country where Madeleine McCann disappeared, explained: “We have provided clips of the Crimewatch programme to international broadcasters to assist them in their coverage of the appeal, and the Crimewatch film is available on the BBC Crimewatch website to international audiences.

“The decision on broadcasting an appeal on an equivalent programme in Portugal is a matter for the Portuguese broadcasters, Portuguese police and The Metropolitan Police”, the statement read.

The Deputy Director of News at Sic Television was meanwhile reported to have exchanged e-mails with the BBC in the days running up to the Crimewatch programme in order to secure the rights to the full programme, but to no avail.

“The BBC said they are not selling the rights”, Martim Cabral told The Portugal News, “therefore we cannot show it.”

Another Portuguese news channel, TVI, told The Portugal News that it had contacted the British national broadcaster prior to the airing of the show, as it sought to “acquire the programme for Portugal, which was denied.”

“Should the BBC change its position and should TVI continue to show an interest, it is certain that we will look at transmitting the programme in question.

“TVI has also requested the BBC clarify this situation with British media to avoid more erroneous interpretations, such as those claiming Portuguese television channels are not interested in transmitting the programme.”

http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/crimewatch-aired-in-uk-ireland-netherlands-germany-but-why-not-portugal/29659
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Offline pegasus

Re: Is Scotland Yard still running with the abduction theory?
« Reply #104 on: June 08, 2014, 09:11:22 PM »
Thanks WSpam. Let's ask for our £145.50 back.