Were the GNR distracted on the day of Madeleine's disappearance?

[Anna]

Are you saying Madeleine was particularly targeted Anna and if so why ?

There was many pretty, blonde girls at the OC that week, Bridget O'Donnell told us so, and we know whoever was assaulting the children SY are interested in weren't stopped by their parents being at home so why Madeleine ?

Further are we supposed to believe the assaults on the children were a group effort by several perpetrators ? If it's a burglary I can understand several men being involved but an assault !

All I am saying is that,If she was targeted, as I believe has been discussed on here, then a day when there was a shortage of GNR might be favourable. I have no idea why someone would want to take Madeleine and as you say it could possibly be a burglary gone wrong....We don't know what happened as there is no evidence of any crime.

[faithlilly]

All I am saying is that,If she was targeted, as I believe has been discussed on here, then a day when there was a shortage of GNR might be favourable. I have no idea why someone would want to take Madeleine and as you say it could possibly be a burglary gone wrong....We don't know what happened as there is no evidence of any crime.

Then isn't it rather a waste of time to speculate on something when there is not a scintilla of evidence to support it ?

[sadie]

Then isn't it rather a waste of time to speculate on something when there is not a scintilla of evidence to support it ?

Oh there are far more pointers to the likelyhood that Madeleine was targetted by strangers than there are to the Mccanns having done anything to get rid of Madeleine.

I cant think of any, other than whipped up hysteria and suspicious minds, that point to the Mccanns having done anything to hurt Madedeleine or get rid of her.



Some very clever people on this forum, Faith, have proved almost every Ant1 / Amaral theory incorrect ... and they used facts, not myths.

Well done guys and gals.

[pegasus]

A security company (SDP) phoned the GNR station in Lagos at 2229 - it's in the files.
That I think will be the call alerting the GNR to the suspected theft in Odiaxere area.
It is 6.3km (8 minutes) drive from Lagos GNR station to Odiaxere.
So that places the GNR patrol arriving at the suspected theft at Odiaxere at about 2237.
Which fits perfectly with the GNR patrol being in Odiaxere when OC reception calls GNR.

[Anna]

Then isn't it rather a waste of time to speculate on something when there is not a scintilla of evidence to support it ?

There is evidence of a celebration which may have caused a shortage of GNR.
 There is evidence that a child disappeared , because she was not there at 10pm.
 There have been reports of the apartment being watched
 There  was reported to be a lot of phone activity that evening, which interested The Portugal police and SC
However although a crime most certainly must have been committed , there is no evidence to point to what the crime may have been,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,So we are all speculating!

[faithlilly]

Oh there are far more pointers to the likelyhood that Madeleine was targetted by strangers than there are to the Mccanns having done anything to get rid of Madeleine.

I cant think of any, other than whipped up hysteria and suspicious minds, that point to the Mccanns having done anything to hurt Madedeleine or get rid of her.



Some very clever people on this forum, Faith, have proved almost every Ant1 / Amaral theory incorrect ... and they used facts, not myths.

Well done guys and gals.

Guys and gals ! Now where have I heard that before ?

Back on topic. So who are these strangers sadie ? Mob-handed assailants, bereft-of-any-common-sense burglars or athletic abductors, or perhaps a combination of all three ?

Roll up, roll up and pick a perpetrator !! Everyone's a winner ( or everyone one except the McCanns ) !!

[faithlilly]

There is evidence of a celebration which may have caused a shortage of GNR.
 There is evidence that a child disappeared , because she was not there at 10pm.
 There have been reports of the apartment being watched
 There  was reported to be a lot of phone activity that evening, which interested The Portugal police and SC
However although a crime most certainly must have been committed , there is no evidence to point to what the crime may have been,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,So we are all speculating!

But there is absolutely no evidence that the GNR were distracted by a hoax call about a theft, can we agree on that ?

[sadie]

But there is absolutely no evidence that the GNR were distracted by a hoax call about a theft, can we agree on that ?

There is the evidence of the receptionist and John Hill.  We have no reason to disbelieve them that I know of.



Am off to bed now Faith.  Good night all.

[pegasus]

But there is absolutely no evidence that the GNR were distracted by a hoax call about a theft, can we agree on that ?

Yes and furthermore I already posted the phone record indicating that the call to GNR re Odiaxere came from a legitimate security company (and certainly not from some hoax caller as part of an incredibly convoluted cunning plan).

[faithlilly]

There is the evidence of the receptionist and John Hill.  We have no reason to disbelieve them that I know of.



Am off to bed now Faith.  Good night all.

The receptionist and John Hill did not suggest the call was a hoax. They simply repeated that the GNR had been delayed because of a call about a theft.

And they call sceptics consiraloons !!!

[faithlilly]

Yes and furthermore I already posted the phone record indicating that the call to GNR re Odiaxere came from a legitimate security company (and certainly not from some hoax caller as part of an incredibly convoluted cunning plan).

You did indeed Pegasus but why let the truth get in the way of a juicy, McCann-absolving conspiracy theory eh ?

[pegasus]

You did indeed Pegasus but why let the truth get in the way of a juicy, McCann-absolving conspiracy theory eh ?

Well it wouldn't surprise me if someone now claims that the imaginary abduction gang interrupted their escape to Morocco by stopping at Odiaxere at 2229 to break into a building just to deliberately set off its alarm which would autodial the security company who would call GNR, thus diverting GNR from PDL. 

[faithlilly]

Well it wouldn't surprise me if someone now claims that the imaginary abduction gang interrupted their escape to Morocco by stopping at Odiaxere at 2229 to break into a building just to deliberately set off its alarm which would autodial the security company who would call GNR, thus diverting GNR from PDL.

Please Pegasus don't give them ideas !

[Brietta]

Yes and furthermore I already posted the phone record indicating that the call to GNR re Odiaxere came from a legitimate security company (and certainly not from some hoax caller as part of an incredibly convoluted cunning plan).

Think about the timing of that call, pegasus, and think about the timing of the call made as Madeleine was being picked up from day care.

Absolutely no suggestion that a bone fide security company would be part of any conspiracy. However depending on the type of property being guarded by their alarm system a call from them as per procedure might be given more weight than a call saying someone's credit card had been stolen.
How simple it would be to trip an alarm in a sensitive, security guarded and at that time empty building; prompting a call out which would be time consuming as the building would require inspection.

I think the fact that the phone call you have spotted in the record is of interest and when other pointers are factored into the equation intimates a greater likelihood of conspiracy than mere chance.

[Brietta]

Well it wouldn't surprise me if someone now claims that the imaginary abduction gang interrupted their escape to Morocco by stopping at Odiaxere at 2229 to break into a building just to deliberately set off its alarm which would autodial the security company who would call GNR, thus diverting GNR from PDL.

Just because your research has turned up such an obvious scenario, don't dismiss it out of hand; if someone had thought outside the box in 2007 and investigated that we might have found out if something along those lines was a serious possibility.