Were the GNR distracted on the day of Madeleine's disappearance?

[Wonderfulspam]

An hour?
Common sense should tell you the abductor would have been in and out in jig time.

Common sense tells me there was no abductor.

But then, I'm just barking mad aren't I.

[Mr Gray]

Common sense tells me there was no abductor.

But then, I'm just barking mad aren't I.

according to SY you are

[Wonderfulspam]

according to SY you are

Have you spoken to them recently?

[Wonderfulspam]

truly barking...your own words not mine

No, I said barking mad, not, truly barking, those were your words.

[Mr Gray]

No, I said barking mad, not, truly barking, those were your words.

sorry you are truly barking mad...your words not mine

[Anna]

@Pegusas.  Ok I got it. 21.21 and 22.55 are from SB to reception.
                       I have to keep turning this machine off as it is overheating madly and lost all my notes on the one that just died 

[pegasus]

@Pegusas.  Ok I got it. 21.21 and 22.55 are from SB to reception.
                       I have to keep turning this machine off as it is overheating madly and lost all my notes on the one that just died 

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P11/11_VOLUME_XIa_Page_3051.jpg
IMO 21:21 and 22:59 are calls are from receptionist Sr Luis using the landline at main reception to call the mobile of his boss Sr Santos.

[pegasus]

Here's a summary of only those phone comms which are specifically relevant to reporting the incident to the GNR, in this order:

1. JH phones HL
2. HL phones the GNR at 22:41
3. JH phones HL
4. HL phones the GNR at 22:52
5. HL phones VS at 22:59
6. Some other person phones the GNR
7. SB phones the GNR
8. (The GNR arrive at reception)

I need to add the txt comms btween RO and MO, and the voice comms btwn KM and GM.

As you can see, it is JH (not GM or MO) who deserves the credit for insisting that the incident must be reported to the GNR.




 

[Anna]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P11/11_VOLUME_XIa_Page_3051.jpg
IMO 21:21 and 22:59 are calls are from receptionist Sr Luis using the landline at main reception to call the mobile of his boss Sr Santos.

thank you so much . It appears that V santos statement is out by about an hour.....and the receptionist also phoned him at 21.21 which isnt mentioned. . maybe this is why there was a conflict in the times.
...

With regard to the date of the disappearance on 3rd May 2007, he remembers that at 22.00/22.15 he received a phone call from the reception, from receptionist Helder, who told him that John Hill was extremely agitated as a child had disappeared and that the GNR had been contacted but had not arrived yet. He added (the receptionist) that he had phoned the GNR post several times and that he had been told that they would arrive when they could but that they were investigating a theft in Odiaxere. The receptionist asked the witness whether he should contact the PSP, to which the witness replied no as this area belongs to the GNR.

Given the circumstances, the witness thought it best to go to the resort to find out more about the situation.

When he arrived at the scene about 10 to 15 minutes later, he immediately went to the reception where the GNR were present, taking a statement from the girl’s father.

[sadie]

Here's a summary of only those phone comms which are specifically relevant to reporting the incident to the GNR, in this order:

1. JH phones HL
2. HL phones the GNR at 22:41
3. JH phones HL
4. HL phones the GNR at 22:52
5. HL phones VS at 22:59
6. Some other person phones the GNR
7. SB phones the GNR
8. (The GNR arrive at reception)

I need to add the txt comms btween RO and MO, and the voice comms btwn KM and GM.

As you can see, it is JH (not GM or MO) who deserves the credit for insisting that the incident must be reported to the GNR.

Looks like the reception ignored Matt and Gerrys requests and only phoned the Police when given the go ahead by John Hill, the boss.


Perhaps it was OC policy to never phone the Police unless it had gone through very senior personnel first?


Better that guests do not see anything amiss with Police around ? .... if possible ?

[stephen25000]

PERHAPS, PERHAPS, PERHAPS ?


The direction this thread has taken is to grasp onto anything to try and give the appearance the GNR were distracted on the night, and the 'abductors' who have yet to be proved to have existed, managed to arrange an abduction to coincide with this.

Give me a break.

[sadie]

PERHAPS, PERHAPS, PERHAPS ?


The direction this thread has taken is to grasp onto anything to try and give the appearance the GNR were distracted on the night, and the 'abductors' who have yet to be proved to have existed, managed to arrange an abduction to coincide with this.

Give me a break.

Good morning Stephen

Who are you shouting at ?

BYW, Just one "perhaps" on the whole page until your three "perhapses"!




What if we are thinking that it is a possibility that the abductors distracted the Police?  And why shouldn't we muse over it?   John, ex police, seems to think that there could be a possibility too, so it seems it must have happened in N Ireland at times.   And to many of us, we see a well planned operation with the watchers reported beforehand.


I can understand that someone who has held deeply entrenched views may be feeling very down as their ideas become overwhelmed by facts that increasing point to an abduction. 


But if it is getting to you, be my guest, take a break 

[Wonderfulspam]

Good morning Stephen

Who are you shouting at ?

BYW, Just one "perhaps" on the whole page until your three "perhapses"!




What if we are thinking that it is a possibility that the abductors distracted the Police?  And why shouldn't we muse over it?   John, ex police, seems to think that there could be a possibility too, so it seems it must have happened in N Ireland at times.   And to many of us, we see a well planned operation with the watchers reported beforehand.


I can understand that someone who has held deeply entrenched views may be feeling very down as their ideas become overwhelmed by facts that increasing point to an abduction. 


But if it is getting to you, be my guest, take a break 

A well planned operation involving distracting border guards, opening windows, drugging Maddie,changing her pyjamas & then making off on foot.

On one reading of the evidence Madeleines disappearence has all the hallmarks of a preplanned abduction (by a Portuguese paedophile gangster who could be mistaken for her father, wore a pair of trousers like he had & had a pyjama changing fetish.)

[stephen25000]

Good morning Stephen

Who are you shouting at ?

BYW, Just one "perhaps" on the whole page until your three "perhapses"!




What if we are thinking that it is a possibility that the abductors distracted the Police?  And why shouldn't we muse over it?   John, ex police, seems to think that there could be a possibility too, so it seems it must have happened in N Ireland at times.   And to many of us, we see a well planned operation with the watchers reported beforehand.


I can understand that someone who has held deeply entrenched views may be feeling very down as their ideas become overwhelmed by facts that increasing point to an abduction. 


But if it is getting to you, be my guest, take a break 

I know you are very fond of fantasies, but where is the evidence of abduction ?

As to taking a break sadie, I can give you some useful suggestions as to where you could go. 

[Lace]

A well planned operation invoving distracting border guards, opening windows, drugging Maddie,changing her pyjamas & then making off on foot.

Unfortunately the guards weren't alerted that there was a missing child until the next day.