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Offline jassi

Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #540 on: November 05, 2014, 01:14:06 PM »
Quote from: lordpookles on November 05, 2014, 12:03:43 PM
do people switch their mobiles off? Mine is constantly on..

Really?  Why?
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline lordpookles

Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #541 on: November 05, 2014, 01:20:06 PM »
They are designed to be kept on. If I'm wrong that has always been my assumption.

Also, someone may call call me in the night. Friend or family member in an emergency. Also easy to just leave it charging overnight with phone switched on, so having it off has no benefits...
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Offline jassi

Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #542 on: November 05, 2014, 01:39:16 PM »
I'm quite the opposite. Mine is never switched on, unless I want to use it.
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I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline lordpookles

Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #543 on: November 05, 2014, 01:45:17 PM »
Yeah people have different habits...

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Offline Brietta

Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #544 on: November 05, 2014, 01:52:02 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on November 05, 2014, 11:37:12 AM
It best explains the reason for open carrying a good distance away from the crime scene i.e. desperate measures. The evidence can't be found. This meant passing through streets to get to his safe destination.  They need to start investigating from that sighting and track mobiles that were in that area at 10 - 10:10 on the night. From this they can investigate further and track their movements in the early morning hours of 4 May. If the body was hidden outside there's a possibility that it was moved again or safer hidden before first light. Mobiles that return to the same spot any time in that later 8 hour period before first light are of interest.

Did they have the technology to track phones and pin point location to that extent?

I thought it was only the general area in which the signal activated the mast that could be determined and not the specific location.
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ferryman

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Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #545 on: November 05, 2014, 02:12:21 PM »
If the body was hidden outside ...

What body?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #546 on: November 05, 2014, 02:14:55 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on November 05, 2014, 01:52:02 PM
Did they have the technology to track phones and pin point location to that extent?

I thought it was only the general area in which the signal activated the mast that could be determined and not the specific location.

Possibly not an exact location but it can provide clues to where people were at certain times and help in the search to find potential evidence. You can't search everywhere in PDL so you've got to narrow it down starting with the last known sighting and the area towards the beach at 10 - 10.10. From there you've got to track the relevant mobiles in the area at that time and move the timeline on. Did anybody return later to the same area. If so this is a location worth investigating further. Were any mobiles turned off in that time period and switched back on later? Any mobiles switched on that night and then off for a short period and then back on again are discrepancies.
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #547 on: November 05, 2014, 02:17:38 PM »
Quote from: ferryman on November 05, 2014, 02:12:21 PM
If the body was hidden outside ...

What body?

The body the yard are trying to find with the cadaver dogs.
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #548 on: November 05, 2014, 02:47:53 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on November 05, 2014, 02:17:38 PM
The body the yard are trying to find with the cadaver dogs.

the body SY think might exist
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Offline misty

Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #549 on: November 05, 2014, 08:07:30 PM »
A man carrying a holdall through the street would attract very little attention, day or night. A man carrying a bare-foot pyjama clad child, on the other hand.......................
If Smithman could make a child disappear then he could certainly do the same with a bag.
But, of course....Smithman does not exist
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #550 on: November 05, 2014, 08:25:43 PM »
He was one step ahead of the searchers. Remember that important fact - all others were searching close to 5A. Smithman has quick feet and went further away but he can't come back with a bag in his hand where he will be spotted.
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #551 on: November 05, 2014, 08:27:54 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on November 05, 2014, 08:25:43 PM
He was one step ahead of the searchers. Remember that important fact - all others were searching close to 5A. Smithman has quick feet and went further away but he can't come back with a bag in his hand where he will be spotted.
Who spotted Smithman coming back then?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #552 on: November 05, 2014, 08:34:43 PM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on November 05, 2014, 08:27:54 PM
Who spotted Smithman coming back then?

If he came back the same route possibly nobody. Amaral will be cursing that cctv  security camera not found @)(++(* If he came back a different route then he would probably be spotted from a balcony maybe  8)--))
« Last Edit: November 05, 2014, 08:37:09 PM by pathfinder73 »
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #553 on: November 05, 2014, 08:51:26 PM »
Quote from: pathfinder73 on November 05, 2014, 08:34:43 PM
If he came back the same route possibly nobody. Amaral will be cursing that cctv  security camera not found @)(++(* If he came back a different route then he would probably be spotted from a balcony maybe  8)--))
So you think Smithman foolhardy enough to be seen carrying a child's body moments after the alarm is raised but too cautious to be seen carrying a bag  *&*%£
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: The Smith sighting revisited.
« Reply #554 on: November 05, 2014, 09:04:35 PM »
Quote from: Alfred R Jones on November 05, 2014, 08:51:26 PM
So you think Smithman foolhardy enough to be seen carrying a child's body moments after the alarm is raised but too cautious to be seen carrying a bag  *&*%£

Bag connects to the crime unless you get rid of it. There were rumours of the PJ looking for a missing bag and Amaral said Mark Harrison suggested a bag could be used to conceal away from the crime scene. This could be an hour earlier than the Smithman sighting. An hour earlier is my theory.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2014, 09:07:00 PM by pathfinder73 »
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.
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