Is there any transparency with the Gonçalo Amaral fund?

[jassi]

no interest but you seem to have a background in accountancy....his fund would be a very good way to launder money

Are you suggesting that the donations are of criminal or illegal  origin?

[Mr Gray]

Are you suggesting that the donations are of criminal or illegal  origin?

no

[Brietta]

Are you suggesting that the donations are of criminal origin?

LOL I never thought of that ... I've been going with the images of school children giving up their pocket money and dear white haired old pensioners making the decision to send their pension money and to blazes with buying food for the cat, too many birds around anyway.

The thing is, no-one could argue one way or the other because we simply do not know because no-one has bothered to publish any information at all ... so if Goncalo Amaral could state that Madeleine's fund was fraudulent ... surely he would want to ensure there was no room for doubt in the Goncalo Amaral fund.

[Alfred R Jones]

How would I know?
I assume the professional Googlers on this site will turn it up in no time flat.
My point was unless someone has tried to obtain the accounts and been told "p**s of Sooty" or had been completely unable to find a way in, then any remark about transparency or lack of is a little unconvincing.
On a personal level I don't give a monkeys if both funds are spent on fast women and slow horses.

So, we don't even know top line detail such as who manages the Amaral fund or their addresses, unlike the Madeleine Fund? How utterly opaque!

[Mr Gray]

Are you suggesting that the donations are of criminal or illegal  origin?

but it's possible

[Alice Purjorick]

So, we don't even know top line detail such as who manages the Amaral fund or their addresses, unlike the Madeleine Fund? How utterly opaque!

Both are quite clear in so far as what you need to know before you hand your money over.
Where is the problem with that?

[Brietta]

Both are quite clear in so far as what you need to know before you hand your money over.
Where is the problem with that?

Hate to repeat myself particularly on the same day ... but African princes don't send out statements or receipts either ... just information about where to send their next pay cheque.

So if people are happy with that situation that is entirely their concern ... but a bit less interest in and comment on the Madeleine fund would be more even handed and a bit less hypocritical.

[Mr Gray]

The McCanns were criticised for the way they started the fund but it's easy to see why they took such an official route...accountability...

No on knows how much amaral has had or where it has come from...I hope the revenue in Portugal look at it...as I have said....it is  a money launderers paradise

[Alice Purjorick]

Hate to repeat myself particularly on the same day ... but African princes don't send out statements or receipts either ... just information about where to send their next pay cheque.

So if people are happy with that situation that is entirely their concern ... but a bit less interest in and comment on the Madeleine fund would be more even handed and a bit less hypocritical.

Y'all seem to have a thing about African Princes, or is it a typo and you really meant a friggin Prince?
I haven't been counting but perhaps admin will put in a counter so we always have the same number of posts bashing Amaral as those that bash the McCanns honours even 

[G-Unit]

Y'all seem to have a thing about African Princes, or is it a typo and you really meant a friggin Prince?
I haven't been counting but perhaps admin will put in a counter so we always have the same number of posts bashing Amaral as those that bash the McCanns honours even 

Perhaps someone on here has been taken in by an African Prince hard luck story lol 

For anyone who wishes to know more about Amaral's fund;

For further information please contact Mr. Luís Arriaga on +351 92 501 19 69, or use the email projectojustica@gmail.com

http://pjga.blogspot.co.uk/2009/11/press-release-defence-fund.html

[Alfred R Jones]

Both are quite clear in so far as what you need to know before you hand your money over.
Where is the problem with that?

I don't have a problem with any of it, just pointing out that as far as the transparency competiton is concerned, the Madeleine Fund beats the Unca Ammy Fund hands down.

[Alfred R Jones]

Perhaps someone on here has been taken in by an African Prince hard luck story lol 

For anyone who wishes to know more about Amaral's fund;

For further information please contact Mr. Luís Arriaga on +351 92 501 19 69, or use the email projectojustica@gmail.com

http://pjga.blogspot.co.uk/2009/11/press-release-defence-fund.html

Cool, now does Mr Arriaga understand English cos my Portuguese ain't all that.

[faithlilly]

Cool, now does Mr Arriaga understand English cos my Portuguese ain't all that.

I'm sure he's got access to google translate.

Let me know how you get on Alfie 

[Alfred R Jones]

I'm sure he's got access to google translate.

Let me know how you get on Alfie 

Sure thing Faithlilly, do you know this chap incidentally?

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