The Quality of Witnesses in the Case.

[Brietta]

I wonder how many times we have haha. It's like posh restaurants; the things that go on behind the scenes would make your hair curl. Tip; if you leave food salt it heavily so it can't be re-used! I think they fingerprinted mainly the window & patio doors, didn't they, entrance and exit points.

There were five usable prints lifted from the interior glass of the bedroom window.

Two were identified as belonging to Dr McCann.  The other three were put there by someone ... wonder who that might have been?

[DCI]

Saliva on the bedding was from a previous occupant. Fingerprints were taken on the night, not three months alter. I thought you had the files (the real ones)?

Do you read posts, before jumping?

I said

After every Tom, dick and Harry trapsed in and out after the McCanns were moved. 3/4 family's stayed in the apartment. The Saliva found on bedding, from one of these families. Yet we are led to believe only Kates prints were found, 3 months later.

I do have the files, you can please yourself, what you believe. Ask a friend with the DVD's to Check out the final report, and see what is missing, compared to what's on line.

No good me posting it, you wouldn't believe it.

[DCI]

Me neither. Perhaps DCI will come up with the goods yet but if past experience is anything to go by I very much doubt it.

Who's the one with form for lying, Faith?. It ain't me sunshine!

[G-Unit]

Do you read posts, before jumping?

I said

After every Tom, dick and Harry trapsed in and out after the McCanns were moved. 3/4 family's stayed in the apartment. The Saliva found on bedding, from one of these families. Yet we are led to believe only Kates prints were found, 3 months later.

I do have the files, you can please yourself, what you believe. Ask a friend with the DVD's to Check out the final report, and see what is missing, compared to what's on line.

No good me posting it, you wouldn't believe it.

Sorry, your post isn't very clear. I thought you were saying that the saliva came from one of the families who stayed in the apartment after the McCanns. I also thought you said Kate's fingerprints were found three months later.

Obviously if someone says they have something but don't produce it when asked people will conclude they haven't got it. Be brave and show me the note on the Tapas restaurant book. go on!

[Miss Taken Identity]

There were five usable prints lifted from the interior glass of the bedroom window.

Two were identified as belonging to Dr McCann.  The other three were put there by someone ... wonder who that might have been?

The people who came to fix the 'broken' shutters Kate complained about previously. Gerry and Diane?

[Alfred R Jones]

The people who came to fix the 'broken' shutters Kate complained about previously. Gerry and Diane?

Did they not think to take fingerprints from Gerry and Dianne?

[jassi]

The people who came to fix the 'broken' shutters Kate complained about previously. Gerry and Diane?

There were several sets of shutters. Which ones were repaired?

[Brietta]

The people who came to fix the 'broken' shutters Kate complained about previously. Gerry and Diane?

Hmmm ... not the shutters ... the inside of the window pane ... five prints, two identified, leaving three unidentified prints.

Presuming the PJ took Gerry and Diane's prints for comparison purposes, the prints are obviously not theirs.

Another conundrum is, why weren't their prints found on the shutters which both claim to have touched.

[G-Unit]

There were five usable prints lifted from the interior glass of the bedroom window.

Two were identified as belonging to Dr McCann.  The other three were put there by someone ... wonder who that might have been?

I read it as all five belonging to Kate McCann, three from her middle finger and two from her index finger;

VESTIGES COLLECTED
5….. Fingerprints….Inside interior window of the children’s bedroom…..DBT…..Suf

Observations: The fingerprint traces collected are identified as being the middle finger of the left hand (3x) and forefinger of the left hand (2x), of the missing girl’s mother,

Side of the patio door: One adequate print recovered but not matched to known persons.

- Outside of one patio door: Eight inadequate prints were recovered.- Outside of [the other] patio door: One inadequate print was recovered.- Outside of the external blinds to the children's bedroom: three inadequate prints were recovered.

C - Pages 1470-07, 1498 Processo vol 6 Various Interpol communications from police in eight countries around the world re: comparison of fingerprints with those retained in the databases of those countries
Several prints were unusable for comparison purposes; all others were compared with no results.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FINGERPRINTS.htm

[Miss Taken Identity]

Hmmm ... not the shutters ... the inside of the window pane ... five prints, two identified, leaving three unidentified prints.

Presuming the PJ took Gerry and Diane's prints for comparison purposes, the prints are obviously not theirs.

Another conundrum is, why weren't their prints found on the shutters which both claim to have touched.

Well, whoever the prints belong to they didn't belong to the 500  38 people of interest SY wanted to Arrest with imminent charges being brought.. ( gosh it seems a lifetime away we heard that)...SY would have arranged to have those peoples prints and have them tested.
Yes? No? don't know?

[G-Unit]

There were several sets of shutters. Which ones were repaired?

The ones in the parent's bedroom.

[Brietta]

Well, whoever the prints belong to they didn't belong to the 500  38 people of interest SY wanted to Arrest with imminent charges being brought.. ( gosh it seems a lifetime away we heard that)...SY would have arranged to have those peoples prints and have them tested.
Yes? No? don't know?

Glad you have finally got it that there is forensic evidence from the apartment which was not identified at the time.

[DCI]

Sorry, your post isn't very clear. I thought you were saying that the saliva came from one of the families who stayed in the apartment after the McCanns. I also thought you said Kate's fingerprints were found three months later.

Obviously if someone says they have something but don't produce it when asked people will conclude they haven't got it. Be brave and show me the note on the Tapas restaurant book. go on!

Here you are GU. Will leave on for 5 minutes.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Glad you have finally got it that there is forensic evidence from the apartment which was not identified at the time.

Glad you are glad that I am glad. However, what is your point exactly about the prints? There is N O forensic evidence to place an 'abductor' near those shutters/whooshing curtains.

Fact:  there is no independent witness who saw little Maddie after Kate took them home.  Time lines and whooshings don't matter because  it cannot be established WHEN Maddie disappeared now can it?...

[G-Unit]

Here you are GU. Will leave on for 5 minutes.

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