Scipio, it is obviously straight-forward to identify bullets removed from victims by the pathologist at autopsy. It is far less straight-forward to identify which bullets relate to which victims where the bullets have exited. Were the exited bullets forensicially analysed for biological matter? Not that I am aware of.
All that matters is the fact that only 3 bullets exited June so only 3 of the 4 bullets recovered in the bedroom could be related to the shots fired to June. Only someone who has an IQ under 70 can't understand such.
Nevill suffered a graze wound. The bullet didn't enter his body so there should have been a 4th loose bullet in the room and there was. It makes no difference which of the 3 specifically relate to June and which is the one that relates to Nevill all that matters is that it is an irrefutable fact that only 3 relate to June and 1 relates to Nevill.
You dishonestly want to IGNORE the medical records and go with an erroneous statement written on a diagram BEFORE police knew that June only suffered 3 exit wounds so the 4th bullet had to relate to Nevill. All that does is demonstrate you to be an untrustworthy clown. A claim on a diagram can't refute medical evidence.
It seems a given that DRH/35 x 2 relate to June since they were found embedded in the pillow she was using. DRH/9 appears to also relate to June. I don't accept DRH/5 necessarily relates to the graze wound NB sustained. Fragments were seen radiologically but not at post mortem. Dr Vanezis has suggested the reason for this is that the fragments were in clothing. Therefore it is possible the non-fragmented part of the bullet could have lodged in NB's pyjamas and lost at various stages. If it was difficult to determine visually whether the exited bullets were whole or fragmented then I would expect that to be determined by weight. Were they weighed?
Of course they were weighed. All 4 are so large and heavy that they can't be part of any fragments recovered by Vanezis. The 4 fragments recovered at autopsy are the bulk of 4 individual bullets. The 4 loose ones are the bulk of 4 individual bullets. The ONLY way that all 8 could relate to June would be if June had suffered 8 gunshot wounds not 7.
Nevill's xray showed very tiny particles in his side area. These particles were WAY TO SMALL to be more than a quarter of a bullet and clearly were less than that. Because they were so small they were not able to be found.
DRH/5 weighed 37 grains so 92.5% of a complete bullet if they were 40 grain rounds or 98.6% if they were 37.5 grain rounds. Eley markerted 37.5 and 40 grain rounds and nothing has been presented on Blue which shows which is what Nevill purchased. Either way there was less than 10% of the round missing.
DRH/9 weighed 25.8 grains so either .645 if 40 grain or .688 if 37.5 grain rounds. Either way it is more than 2/3s of a complete round.
The bullets removed at autopsy weighed 2.29 grams, 2.42 grams, 1.79 grams and 1.77 grams. If 40 grain then the complete bullets weighed 2.59 grams. So if 40 grain then he recovered more than 86% of each the bullets recovered from her chest, 69 percent of the bullet between her eyes and 68 percent of the bullet that entered above her right ear.
June's wound '2' is unclear from the autopsy report in that fragments were identified at autopsy but no exit wound.
Wound 2 is the wound above her right ear. There is nothing unclear, he recovered PV/26 from this wound. PV/26 weighed 1.77 grams so at minimum 68% of the original bullet. The remaining amount broke off into small parts that he could not recover.
As I pointed out previously the diagram layout of the casings identifies bullet DRH/35 x2, DRH/9 and DRH/5 as all pertaining to June.
And as I pointed out that diagram was prepared before they knew that June only suffered 3 exit wounds and that Nevill suffered a graze wound thus before they were told by the experts that one of these bullets related to a graze wound Nevill suffered.
You keep humiliating yourself by saying we have to stick with the diagram though the experts stopped maintaining such and maintained at trial that one of the loose bullets pertained to Nevill's graze wound which the defense failed to challenge because they had no way to do so. Only a moron would claim June suffered 7 wounds but was struck by 8 bullets.
In the meantime you keep ignoring that the diagram states 13 bullets were found in the bedroom and lists all 13. It also lists DRH/14 and asserts it relates to a shot to June. They asserted on the diagram that 2 casings from the bedroom related to Sheila, that 1 case from the bedroom (DRH/13 and the case on the landing related to June's second episode. It asserted the remaining 10 cases found in the bedroom related to the first episode where June and Nevill were shot. You are not only wrong you are not even consistent you ignore anything you feel like and just make up whatever you feel like.
You want to live by the diagram so here is the diagram assertions about the casings:
Bottom line is excl the two casings to SC there were 9 casings in the main bedroom, 1 on the transition strip and 1 on the landing which supports my theory that NB did not sustain any gunshot wounds in the main bedroom.
First of all, how could 25 shots be fired by 24 casings? The number of bullets and casings has to match. You keep eliminating a casing yet keeping 25 shots fired. That alone should tell you that you ar enot making any sense.
Seocnd the casing against the transition strip was in the bedroom genius. Counting that casing there were 13 total in the bedroom. The diagram you keep making such a big deal out of lists 13 casings found in the bedroom these 13 cases:
1) DRH/1 right side of Sheila's body
2) DRH/2 Left hand side of Sheila's body
3) DRH/3 on the floor inside the door of the main bedroom to the left of June's body.
4) DRH/4 next to DRH/3
5) DRH/6 top of quit right hand side of the bed
6) DRH/7a under wardrobe
7) DRH/7b under wardrobe
8) DRH/8 left hand side of bed 4inches from the pillow
9) DRH/10 on the quilt right hand side of the bed on floor.
10) DRH/11 right hand side of bed on the floor near the wardrobe
11) DRH/12 on the floor right hand side of the bed
12) DRH/13 metal strip of doorway
13) DRH/43 under the wardrobe right hand side of bed
You keep ignoring reality on how many cases were found in the bedroom and pretending that 8 bullets caused June's 7 wounds so you can pretend that the graze wound Nevill suffered was not suffered in the bedroom all so you can pretend Nevill wasn't shot in the bedroom. It's bad enough you keep trying to pretend he wasn't shot in the bedroom but worse you keep telling us he was shot on the stairs though it is physically impossible for him to have been shot on the stairs because the ONLY WAY to achieve the trajectories of the wounds if he had been on the stairs would be by firing through the wall. One has to be a blathering idiot to buy the nonsense you post.
NB sustained the gunshot wounds to his lip and jaw whilst he was stood on the two stairs immediately preceding the main entrance with the perp stood within the doorway. Casing DRH/3 and DRH/4 pertain to these wounds.
It's physically impossible to hit his lip and jaw at the angle and trajectory they were hit from the doorway. So your theory is impossible. If Nevill were on the stairs the wounds could only be delivered if fired through the wall. In the meantime firing from the doorway would result in the casings flying near the chair. You want us to believe they simply fell underneath the gun as if they simply dropped out of the bottom of the weapon. But why bother you with reality when you couldn't care less about facts and just make up anything you feel like.
NB sustained the gunshot wounds to his shoulder and elbow whilst he was on the main staircase with the perp behind him. Casing DRH/13 and DRH/14 pertain to these wounds. It is entirely plausible. I have recently stated in another thread that exact measurements using lasers need to be taken from WHF taking into account all features such as door width, depth of stairs, width of spindles, including gaps between, and height of banisters. I am afraid you will not convince me otherwise using marker pens on the diagram below.
It's physically impossible to hit his shoulder and graze his arm and chest from the doorway if he were on the stairs. The killer had to be facing his left profile. The only way to hit him at the angles in question would be to shoot through the wall. You just keep embarrassing yourself by positing impossible nonsense. In the meantime DRH/13 pertains to the shot between June's eyes. That was the assessment even on the diagram you place so much stock in. That diagram assessed DRH/14 was related to the shot to her head assuming the killer was in the hallway with the weapon's eject port facing the stairs when it was fired but after learning it was fired while she was in bed and learning about a casing missing from the kitchen decided DRH/14 was transferred from the kitchen.
A police officer did not transfer casing DRH/14 from the kitchen to the landing under his foot. Impossible. NB and June were shot a total of 11 times upstairs if DRH/14 was transferred from the kitchen then a casing is missing from upstairs.
Impossible because you say so? You are always wrong so your opinion means absolutely nothing. You are so hapless you keep telling us Nevill was shot on the stairs though it is physically impossible unless he were shot through the wall and keep telling us that 8 bullets caused June's 7 bullet wounds in order to pretend that the bullet that grazed Nevill wasn't in the bedroom. You even keep insisting there were only 24 casings found at WHF though you concede 25 shots were fired. You make up your own rules out of thin air and your made up rules bear no relation to reality. You make up there were 24 casings for no rational reason and keep denying irrefutable evidence that DRH/7 consisted of 2 casings. That just renders you a joke.
25 casings total were recovered in the house. 3 in the kitchen, 1 on the landing, 13 in the master bedroom and 8 in the room the twins were shot in.
The victims suffered 25 gunshot wounds so the casings from all 25 gunshot wounds were recovered.
Nevill was shot 4 times in the kitchen but only 3 casings were found in the kitchen so 1 casing was missing.
June was shot 7 times in the master bedroom and Sheila was shot 2 times in the master bedroom. That adds up to 9 but there were 13 found in the master bedroom so 4 more shots were fired in the master bedroom. Nevill was shot 4 other times so clearly these relate to Nevill being shot.
4 bullets lodged inside June and were removed at autopsy. 3 bullets exited June so were in the house somewhere.
7 bullets lodged inside Nevill and were removed at autopsy. 1 bullet grazed Nevill so was in the house somewhere.
4 loose bullets were found in the bedroom. 3 related to June and the 4th to Nevill.
All 13 casings associated with the master bedroom shootings were accounted for.
All 8 casings associated with the shooting of the twins were found in their bedroom thus accounted for.
The only missing case was from the kitchen so we know that DRH/14 was transferred from the kitchen.
Whether it stuck to Jeremy's shoe or a cops shoe there is no way to know. It is not only possible but a fact that it stuck to a shoe of Jeremy or a cop because at the time it was found only the killer and cops had passed from the kitchen to where it was found.
Your claims are all impossible nonsense that ignores reality.
