Petition re Madeleine McCann on Prime Minister's website

[John]

Sorry to disagree, but I am almost certain  Madeleine is alive.

I go with davel on this one, nobody knows one way or another except those who might have played a part.

[misty]

@Blonk
I apologise for forcing you to confirm who you were purporting to be.
For those of us who support justice, what exactly are you doing with your petition which assists those working towards finding Madeleine & a resolution of the case?
I do agree with some of your points but I don't understand why you don't understand the reasons behind the Crimewatch broadcasts. You are viewing any corruption from the wrong angle imo.

[Eleanor]

The last post was on topic.

Don't bandy words with me, Stephen.  You know very well which I mean.

[stephen25000]

Don't bandy words with me, Stephen.  You know very well which I mean.

You again are singling me out out Eleanor.

Why is that. ?

[stephen25000]

I go with davel on this one, nobody knows one way or another except those who might have played a part.

Despite the fact there has been no trace of her.

[John]

@blonk

Thank you for clarifying those issues, as a lawyer you will understand that we have to be careful as to content.

[John]

You again are singling me out out Eleanor.

Why is that. ?

Hint:  Don't mention the Morocco word. 

[John]

Despite the fact there has been no trace of her.

That's what I mean, if she fell down an open hole nobody will know what happened to her, if her fate was at the hands of a third party then they will know.  I don't believe for a moment that any investigators, official or private, know for definite what befell her.

[stephen25000]

Hint:  Don't mention the Morocco word. 

Well I'll just say Bob Hope and Bing Crosby instead .😇

[blonk]

@Blonk
I apologise for forcing you to confirm who you were purporting to be.

REPLY: No need to apologise, but I was never purporting to be anybody else

For those of us who support justice,

REPLY: Like me

what exactly are you doing with your petition which assists those working towards finding Madeleine & a resolution of the case?

REPLY: In a very modest way, it redirects focus onto whether or not Operation Grange ever was a genuine search for the truth. It most certainly doesn't do anyone any harm at all

I do agree with some of your points but I don't understand why you don't understand the reasons behind the Crimewatch broadcasts.

REPLY: What were these various reasons? I would be grateful if you could please tell me what you think they were

You are viewing any corruption from the wrong angle imo.

REPLY: What is the right angle from which to view any corruption please?

[G-Unit]

I do agree with many points on that summary.

My reservations as to whether it would succeed revolve around Cameron, as the secondary instigator of the 'investigation'.

He would block or divert it, resulting in a waste of money, and in his case would a turkey vote for Christmas ?

A reasonably good summary of the causes for concern about the Operation Grange investigation. One comfort is that it would be very difficult to 'do a Dando' in this case because the Portuguese have primacy. Judging by the deafening silence since DCI Wall took over, I don't think much is being done, nor do I expect anything to be done. I think the silence is what we will continue to hear until we all forget about the case. The parents have said they will carry on the search if SY stop. If SY don't officially close the investigation the parents then have to decide whether to begin their 'search' or allow the silence to continue.

[misty]

 In a very modest way, it redirects focus onto whether or not Operation Grange ever was a genuine search for the truth. It most certainly doesn't do anyone any harm at all


Ans. If it wasn't a genuine attempt to find the truth, it would never have been authorised. More specifically, the Portuguese would not have co-operated. Why whitewash over a whitewash? To demand answers before SY & the new PJ team have reached a conclusion is very disrespectful to those good officers who are doing their best for Madeleine & her loved ones.


REPLY: What were these various reasons? I would be grateful if you could please tell me what you think they were

Ans. I believe SY were seeking to confirm the existence of Smithman by eliminating the necessity for his presence in the first place, ie, Tannerman.  The release of the efits put the pressure on any innocent tourist to come forward as he (Smithman) was now the prime suspect in the eyes of the public, but not SY, for the reasons you have already listed.


It's the original Portuguese corruption you should be questioning, not the subsequent actions of a police force who had no real knowledge or control over the aftermath of the night of 3rd May 2007.

[Mr Gray]

perhaps Blonk could answer a simple question...if grange is  a sham...what is it's purpose...to influence public perception...public perception of what....what was the purpose of spending 12 miillion pounds...there would have to be a reason...that is the massive black hole in your theory...you cannot give a reason...and that's why I think you are totally wrong

[G-Unit]

perhaps Blonk could answer a simple question...if grange is  a sham...what is it's purpose...to influence public perception...public perception of what....what was the purpose of spending 12 miillion pounds...there would have to be a reason...that is the massive black hole in your theory...you cannot give a reason...and that's why I think you are totally wrong

If you look at it as a process it's clearer. Cameron was 'persuaded' by the parents and Brooks. He persuaded May. May persuaded the Met. The Met decided to take it on but the remit was to investigate the 'abduction'.

Why did they restrict it? Perhaps that's what they were asked to do, no more, no less. Perhaps the high ups in the Met decided to restrict it After all, neither Cameron, Brooks or May would have been pleased if SY had headed straight for the parents and their friends, would they? That would have been carrying on where the PJ left off and no-one thought that would go down well.

I expect the Met thought they could find evidence of an abduction where the PJ had failed. They used the press to show how busy they were and what they were achieving. Slowly but surely the their leads led nowhere. Now we have silence.

[pathfinder73]

Why is the investigation called the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann and not the Abduction of Madeleine McCann?

A report said Crecheman came forward in 2007 and SY found his questionnaire sent to LP.

"The innocent dad came forward in 2007 but mistakenly remained the main focus of the hunt until this year when Scotland Yard detectives tracked him down."

"The unnamed dad – spotted in the Praia da Luz resort by McCann family friend Jane Tanner at 9.15pm – was among a number of British witnesses who completed questionnaires for Leicestershire police six years ago."

"The new prime suspect was spotted by Martin Smith from Drogheda, Co Louth, as he returned to his apartment in Praia da Luz. He saw a British-looking man carrying a motionless, barefoot girl in pyjamas."

"More than 1,000 people have come forward (CW) with fresh information and several named the same man as the prime suspect."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/editors-picks/madeleine-mccann-bungling-police-prime-2965027