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Offline xtina

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1620 on: September 17, 2016, 02:23:24 PM »
An interesting read and a precise  analysis of what has happened to Amaral, courtesy of the Mccanns and their 'followers'.

IMHO naturally.


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Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1621 on: September 17, 2016, 03:52:11 PM »
What does Gerry say on the 4th May?I have a feeling that is word for word very close to what Kate has said.So that was a prepared bit for sure.

On the 10th he shows a more typical male response:  Without his notes he doesn't remember.
And nothing about the pyjamas in his arguido statement 7th Sept 07.

You may well have identified the reason for the exact same description of Madeleine in the parent's statements. Gerry did like reading from notes, didn't he? I suspect he handed them out to others too; Alex Woolfall and Michael Wright are two examples. Did he help Kate to write hers?

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Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #1622 on: September 17, 2016, 08:35:12 PM »
You may well have identified the reason for the exact same description of Madeleine in the parent's statements. Gerry did like reading from notes, didn't he? I suspect he handed them out to others too; Alex Woolfall and Michael Wright are two examples. Did he help Kate to write hers?

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id170.html
Did you see how it was possible for Fiona to know what Madeleine's pyjamas were like by 10:15 PM 3rd May?
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Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #1623 on: September 18, 2016, 12:08:10 PM »
Did Kate describe the description of the pyjamas before 10:20 with the group?  So that Fiona and Jane could even discuss this at the time of the alert?
This was the reference I was trying to find the other day Jane Tanner's 10 May statement:
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Subsequently she had us doubt it was Madeleine. This was after she had spoken with Fiona Payne who had described Madeleine's pyjamas. Asked why she did not tell Kate Healy that night about this sighting, JT said she always avoided mentioning it to the McCanns therefore she didn't want to increase their suffering.
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Offline sadie

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1624 on: September 18, 2016, 12:34:28 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on September 17, 2016, 01:57:07 AM
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Did Kate describe the description of the pyjamas before 10:20 with the group?  So that Fiona and Jane could even discuss this at the time of the alert?
This was the reference I was trying to find the other day Jane Tanner's 10 May statement:
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Subsequently she had us doubt it was Madeleine. This was after she had spoken with Fiona Payne who had described Madeleine's pyjamas. Asked why she did not tell Kate Healy that night about this sighting, JT said she always avoided mentioning it to the McCanns therefore she didn't want to increase their suffering.

Rob, I think it likely that Jane would already have seen Madeleines pyjamas.

I think that the children of all families were usually bathed, put in their pj's and then went out communally  to play on the slides etc for a few minutes.

Doesn't mean that the image of Madeleines pj's had registered in Janes mind, tho

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1625 on: September 18, 2016, 12:37:59 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on September 17, 2016, 01:57:07 AMThis was the reference I was trying to find the other day Jane Tanner's 10 May statement:
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Rob, I think it likely that Jane would already have seen Madeleines pyjamas.

I think that the children of all families were usually bathed, put in their pj's and then went out communally  to play on the slides etc for a few minutes.

Doesn't mean that the image of Madeleines pj's had registered in Janes mind, tho
I'm only going off statements Sadie.  I did read something like that though, but was it the whole group that did that?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

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« Reply #1626 on: September 19, 2016, 12:46:53 PM »
Yes

In another context the two bods on the sidewalk in the top r.h. corner of the photos are interesting.
Not specifically the bods, you understand, but the amount of space the bods occupy.
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Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #1627 on: September 19, 2016, 12:58:32 PM »
In another context the two bods on the sidewalk in the top r.h. corner of the photos are interesting.
Not specifically the bods, you understand, but the amount of space the bods occupy.
Jane squeezing past Jez and Gerry and neither noticing.  Easy!
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #1628 on: September 19, 2016, 03:56:05 PM »
In another context the two bods on the sidewalk in the top r.h. corner of the photos are interesting.
Not specifically the bods, you understand, but the amount of space the bods occupy.

Yes, was the near pavement similar I wonder. I have wondered why people kept saying the Payne's apartment was bigger. It had 2 bedrooms, but so had the Tanner's and the McCann's. Looking at that pic, however, the balcony was huge compared to anyone else's. I wonder if that's what they meant?
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Offline jassi

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« Reply #1629 on: September 19, 2016, 03:59:01 PM »
Yes, was the near pavement similar I wonder. I have wondered why people kept saying the Payne's apartment was bigger. It had 2 bedrooms, but so had the Tanner's and the McCann's. Looking at that pic, however, the balcony was huge compared to anyone else's. I wonder if that's what they meant?


I thought there were 3 but granny had to sleep on a couch so that the children could have 2 rooms.

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Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #1630 on: September 19, 2016, 08:10:50 PM »

I thought there were 3 but granny had to sleep on a couch so that the children could have 2 rooms.
The Paynes apartment must have been quite a bit bigger as it was able to accommodate an addition family of 4 for two nights(?).
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #1631 on: September 19, 2016, 09:05:27 PM »

I thought there were 3 but granny had to sleep on a couch so that the children could have 2 rooms.

Two bedrooms. One with the elder child the other with the parents and baby in cot. Granny slept on the sofa bed in the Living room as she didn't want to sleep in the elder child's room.
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Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #1632 on: September 19, 2016, 09:37:22 PM »
Two bedrooms. One with the elder child the other with the parents and baby in cot. Granny slept on the sofa bed in the Living room as she didn't want to sleep in the elder child's room.
That was I suppose before the McCanns joined them for a couple of nights
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Offline sadie

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« Reply #1633 on: September 19, 2016, 10:32:45 PM »
Jane squeezing past Jez and Gerry and neither noticing.  Easy!
Agreed, very easy and no squeezing either.

Jez was in the road by the kerb and Gerry was on the edge of the pavement/ kerb according to reports on forum earlier.

Two bods in your photo, Alice .... and Jane was on her own.

Plenty of space.

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #1634 on: September 19, 2016, 11:24:50 PM »
Agreed, very easy and no squeezing either.

Jez was in the road by the kerb and Gerry was on the edge of the pavement/ kerb according to reports on forum earlier.

Two bods in your photo, Alice .... and Jane was on her own.

Plenty of space.

We've had a full discussion about Jane, Jez and Gerry here ...
Topic: Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1249.msg35271#msg35271

The perspective of that aerial photograph is interesting.  The recliners at poolside are positively tiny in comparison to those two figures which being further away from the camera should be smaller than the giants they appear to be.
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