Wandering Off Topic

[Brietta]

I suppose she may have died peacefully in her sleep.

Tragically children do and it can happen whatever the age of the child.
However, their parents do not immediately take them to the nearest rubbish skip and throw them into it as far as I know.

[Brietta]

i totally agree maddie was 3 and the twins were even younger

 ... and their parents were at a distance of less than 45 seconds away from them.

[jassi]

... and their parents were at a distance of less than 45 seconds away from them.

But only once they'd got up  off their a*se

[Brietta]

But only once they'd got up  off their a*se

If you have children did you ever consider that sitting having a meal 30 to 40 seconds distance away from them put them at risk ... or did you have supper sitting at their bedside?

[jassi]

If you have children did you ever consider that sitting having a meal 30 to 40 seconds distance away from them put them at risk ... or did you have supper sitting at their bedside?

I've never put myself in that position.

The point I was making is that they are only that time away ONCE they got up from the table.

[slartibartfast]

If you have children did you ever consider that sitting having a meal 30 to 40 seconds distance away from them put them at risk ... or did you have supper sitting at their bedside?

Well usually someone would have to get through a locked front door sneak past the room we were in climb a creaky stair, grab a child with no noise and retreat the same way....

[Robittybob1]

I don't agree, the parents are to blame for creating the situation in the first place.  Had they took it in turns to look after the children properly or bothered to take them to the night creche then this entire fiasco could have been avoided. They took a chance with their children's safety and it backfired. If somebody did lift her from the street outside then certainly they are guilty of a despicable crime but that is a separate issue imo.

Kids have gone missing even when the parents were present.  Kids at the Tapas could wander off too.  I don't think there is any guaranteed safety.
I know they regret not being at home, but it is only one of the factors IMO in this case.

[Angelo222]

If you have children did you ever consider that sitting having a meal 30 to 40 seconds distance away from them put them at risk ... or did you have supper sitting at their bedside?

History has shown us that it is in fact a risk.  IMO it doesn't matter if it was 50m or 500m, leaving three children under four years of age alone for any length of time is a no-no.

[Angelo222]

Kids have gone missing even when the parents were present.  Kids at the Tapas could wander off too.  I don't think there is any guaranteed safety.
I know they regret not being at home, but it is only one of the factors IMO in this case.

Nothing is guaranteed agreed but using some common sense is usually a good starting point.  We know the children were left alone for periods exceeding one hour which is inexcusable imo.

[Robittybob1]

Nothing is guaranteed agreed but using some common sense is usually a good starting point.  We know the children were left alone for periods exceeding one hour which is inexcusable imo.

That was based on one witness statement only and denied by Gerry McCann.  In other words we don't know the facts.  Had Mrs Fenn reported it to the Police and the complaint investigated then we would be dealing with more reliable facts.

[Brietta]

Well usually someone would have to get through a locked front door sneak past the room we were in climb a creaky stair, grab a child with no noise and retreat the same way....

The police were called and officers arrived at the property in Weymouth, Dorset, to arrest Jones at about 6.45am in October last year.

It is not known when Jones broke into the house or when he is alleged to have assaulted the girl.

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"The kitchen window blind was crumpled in the middle and I could see the window was clearly open.

"We had locked everything up as we went to bed.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/parents-woken-girl-6-after-10155446

[Vertigo Swirl]

The police were called and officers arrived at the property in Weymouth, Dorset, to arrest Jones at about 6.45am in October last year.

It is not known when Jones broke into the house or when he is alleged to have assaulted the girl.

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"The kitchen window blind was crumpled in the middle and I could see the window was clearly open.

"We had locked everything up as we went to bed.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/parents-woken-girl-6-after-10155446

Her mother said:

"I felt like the worst person, that I let my daughter down completely. I thought I should have heard something or woken up."

I’m sure there are some people who hold her responsible too, those people who are perfect parents, we’ve all encountered a few.

[carlymichelle]

 i kinda  wonder that some  mcann spporters that  think  it is ok to leave  toddlers alone were they born in the children  should be seen and not heard  era or  were their parents?? im in my late  30s and i dont understand   how  anyone could think its  ok to leave  toddlers  alone??

[Mr Gray]

i kinda  wonder that some  mcann spporters that  think  it is ok to leave  toddlers alone were they born in the children  should be seen and not heard  era or  were their parents?? im in my late  30s and i dont understand   how  anyone could think its  ok to leave  toddlers  alone??

I don't think it's OK to leave children alone...

[G-Unit]

Her mother said:

"I felt like the worst person, that I let my daughter down completely. I thought I should have heard something or woken up."

I’m sure there are some people who hold her responsible too, those people who are perfect parents, we’ve all encountered a few.

The man was charged with trespass with intent to commit a sexual offence and sexual assault of a child under 13. He was acquitted by a jury.

So it wasn't proved that he had broken in or assaulted the girl.