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Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3495 on: June 09, 2018, 09:41:11 PM »
Why am I not at all surprised by that response, but how sad that you should feel the need to express it.

Even sadder that you chose to write it in the first place then.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3496 on: June 09, 2018, 09:41:24 PM »
Why am I not at all surprised by that response, but how sad that you should feel the need to express it.

Because it is common sense.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3497 on: June 09, 2018, 10:34:12 PM »
Don't you think it is pushing credulity for those parents to find a man in their six year old daughter's bed?
Equally incredible that he effected entry to a locked house entirely unheard and unseen and who, if he had so desired could have lifted the child and left the premises with her as unheard and unseen as he had entered?

How is it possible for you to defend such an indefensible situation?

Oh amazingly easily.
About as easily as you find it to display faux outrage and misrepresent the posts of others seemingly..... ?{)(**
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3498 on: June 09, 2018, 10:55:16 PM »
Because it is common sense.
What are you referring to?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline sadie

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3499 on: June 10, 2018, 12:19:30 AM »
Completely different imo

Imagine what would have happened if the girl had been left alone while her parents were at the pub 50 yards away.
They were still on Ocean Club premises kizzy ... and the tapas group could see the only entrance (patio door) that The Mccanns, at the time, knew to be unlocked although closed.  The patio area outside this patio door was illuminated by the street lamp opposite.

When Amaral postulated that no intruder could have got in to 5A and trying to prove it, he said that no intruder would have risked entering when so overlooked by the parents at only 50 metres distance.


You seem to hang on Amarals every word.  Why are you ignoring Amarals opinion on this ?

Offline sadie

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3500 on: June 10, 2018, 12:42:00 AM »
Bit surprised he was able to break in without waking the whole street.
Maybe the property wasn't as secure as was claimed.

Strange story all round.
We have been broken into three times without hearing the burglars entrance.  However we were wakened by a wimpering, trembling dog the once ... and the noise of movement within the house both the other times.


Now the good news.  Our new local neighbourhood watch, which is using up to the minute electronic technology and keen vigilant neighbours just prevented a burglar getting away, partially by tracking him on video cameras and partially by blocking off all the escape routes by man power.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3501 on: June 10, 2018, 06:48:52 AM »
"Ad hom" posts maybe removed
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3502 on: June 10, 2018, 10:59:40 AM »
... and their parents were at a distance of less than 45 seconds away from them.

Mr Brunt that moronic !!!!     

He trashed that claim. even a young gazelle couldn't do it in that time! IF they were that close she could have waved and shouted for the tapas tram to come to her...

45 seconds eh   ^*&&
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3503 on: June 10, 2018, 11:10:49 AM »
They were still on Ocean Club premises kizzy ... and the tapas group could see the only entrance (patio door) that The Mccanns, at the time, knew to be unlocked although closed.  The patio area outside this patio door was illuminated by the street lamp opposite.

When Amaral postulated that no intruder could have got in to 5A and trying to prove it, he said that no intruder would have risked entering when so overlooked by the parents at only 50 metres distance.


You seem to hang on Amarals every word.  Why are you ignoring Amarals opinion on this ?

Enbolden.... they could NOT see the comings and goings of anyone from that patio door due the bushes ..
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Lace

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3504 on: June 10, 2018, 11:30:52 AM »
They were still on Ocean Club premises kizzy ... and the tapas group could see the only entrance (patio door) that The Mccanns, at the time, knew to be unlocked although closed.  The patio area outside this patio door was illuminated by the street lamp opposite.

When Amaral postulated that no intruder could have got in to 5A and trying to prove it, he said that no intruder would have risked entering when so overlooked by the parents at only 50 metres distance.


You seem to hang on Amarals every word.  Why are you ignoring Amarals opinion on this ?


When Amaral postulated that no intruder could have got in to 5A and trying to prove it, he said that no intruder would have risked entering when so overlooked by the parents at only 50 metres distance.

Amaral was adament that no intruder had got into 5a.    Had he heard about the man who was getting into apartments and getting into bed with children?    How did he think that man had got into those apartments?  The apartments were secured according to the parents.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3505 on: June 10, 2018, 11:41:14 AM »

When Amaral postulated that no intruder could have got in to 5A and trying to prove it, he said that no intruder would have risked entering when so overlooked by the parents at only 50 metres distance.

Amaral was adament that no intruder had got into 5a.    Had he heard about the man who was getting into apartments and getting into bed with children?    How did he think that man had got into those apartments?  The apartments were secured according to the parents.

Could it be it was the parents claims  he was quoting... irony? He knew it wasn't 45 seconds (Brietta got it down to 30/40 seconds in one of her posts) He knew the parents could not see who was entering the apartment from the Patio doors...
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3506 on: June 10, 2018, 01:18:08 PM »
Could it be it was the parents claims  he was quoting... irony? He knew it wasn't 45 seconds (Brietta got it down to 30/40 seconds in one of her posts) He knew the parents could not see who was entering the apartment from the Patio doors...
That is not the point GA was making.  It is from the perspective of an intruder.  Did an intruder know the Tapas 9 had trouble seeing the apartment?
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Offline Admin

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« Reply #3507 on: June 10, 2018, 01:59:33 PM »
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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3508 on: June 10, 2018, 04:01:37 PM »
Could it be it was the parents claims  he was quoting... irony? He knew it wasn't 45 seconds (Brietta got it down to 30/40 seconds in one of her posts) He knew the parents could not see who was entering the apartment from the Patio doors...

You don't think the PJ thought to walk the distance from the Tapas to the apartment then?

It was one of the first things that came into Martin Brunt's head to check out and we've all watched him do it ~ something like seventy four steps or thereabouts if I recall correctly.

Why wouldn't the trained investigators of the PJ do what had occurred to a journalist to do in walking the distance and maybe even timing how long it took them to do it as well, do you think?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #3509 on: June 10, 2018, 04:23:52 PM »
You don't think the PJ thought to walk the distance from the Tapas to the apartment then?

It was one of the first things that came into Martin Brunt's head to check out and we've all watched him do it ~ something like seventy four steps or thereabouts if I recall correctly.

Why wouldn't the trained investigators of the PJ do what had occurred to a journalist to do in walking the distance and maybe even timing how long it took them to do it as well, do you think?

I cn only assume they did, once they stopped laughing at the 30/40 seconds away, story, and the mother running out to go get the Tapas group leaving babies alone again after one had already been abducted.

 I mean come on...

"Why wouldn't the trained investigators of the PJ do what had occurred to a journalist to do in walking the distance and maybe even timing" 

Well , them trained investigators probably wouldn't because they could not see  people sitting at the Tapas from the balcony, they also didn't believe they were'like sitting in a garden' So the steps and times would not have been relevant within the first few hours...too busy munching them samiches, watching Kate n Gerry searching all alone.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin