Neville Bamber and Teddy bear in master bedroom

[Opal]

Yes I see the headphones now! Do you think the square clear marks ( in the dust marks) on top of the Clock/Radio and down the side, were from where the telephone originally stood, or fingerprint powder tests around something, or even the bible laying opened before being knocked onto the floor, or placed on the floor. The reason I ask is because there were spots of blood on the Lamp, so was NB reading that bible? The blood spots couldn't have come from SC onto the lamp as there are no other blood spots on the bedside cabinet.

[Holly Goodhead]

Does anyone know if Neville Bamber wore glasses? I seem to remember seeing a photo of Neville B and Jeremy B ( when JB was young) standing by a tractor...NB having glasses on....it's now bugging me!

I think there's a photo of NB with glasses reading to the twins  in CAL's book.

[Holly Goodhead]

Has anyone noticed the lamp June's side?  The stand features a frightening face.

[Myster]

I think there's a photo of NB with glasses reading to the twins in CAL's book.

He's just sitting with the twins in CAL's.  In Colin's book he's wearing gold rimmed specs and reading to them. There's another one of him, again wearing specs, busy doing something on the front lawn in Wilkes'.

[Myster]

Has anyone noticed the lamp June's side?  The stand features a frightening face.

Looks like a vertically-challenged owl wearing an oversized fez...

[Myster]

Yes I see the headphones now! Do you think the square clear marks ( in the dust marks) on top of the Clock/Radio and down the side, were from where the telephone originally stood, or fingerprint powder tests around something, or even the bible laying opened before being knocked onto the floor, or placed on the floor. The reason I ask is because there were spots of blood on the Lamp, so was NB reading that bible? The blood spots couldn't have come from SC onto the lamp as there are no other blood spots on the bedside cabinet.

I'm having second thoughts about the glasses on the right, as it might only be white flex of the headphones on the left. Definitely headphones though... maybe NB used these with the clock-radio so as not to disturb June if she was asleep or while she was reading her bible.

I don't think they are dust marks because the rest of the cabinet is dust-free (or fingerprint powder as this would be carried out later), but more likely to be a reflection of the light wallpaper and darker ceiling on the shiny black top of the clock-radio. Similarly with the bedclothes being reflected on the clear perspex front face of the digital clock.

Weren't blood spots only present on the (owl) lampshade on the other bedside cabinet?

[Holly Goodhead]

Looks like a vertically-challenged owl wearing an oversized fez...

Yes I think you're right.  I think I was thrown by the white bit which looks like a set of teeth. 

[Myster]

Yes I think you're right.  I think I was thrown by the white bit which looks like a set of teeth.

     Just recognised the face now and it made me jump! One of those optical illusions you're fond of. Don't think I'd sleep with that staring back at me, but it's probably a pot of cold cream or similar in front of the owl.

[scipio_usmc]

Looks like a vertically-challenged owl wearing an oversized fez...

Odd that they each had a different lamp most people have matching lamps.

Take special note of where DRH-8 was found. It could not get in such location by shooting at June in bed. It would only get there from shooting at someone on Nevill's side of the bed. Either it was fired after June moved the covers to try top get up or a fluke resulted in it landing higher up than the quilt was pulled as June was sleeping. If the shots to Nevill took place while June still had her covers pulled over her then most if not all such casings hitting June's side of the bed would have hit the top of the quilt not gotten underneath. With her kicking around and keeping her knee up turning the quilt into a tent so to speak the casings would not stay on the quilt but rather bounce off to the floor. Several casings were on the floor right next to her side of the bed where they would be if they bounced off the quilt or were throw off by June removing the quilt from her body.

 

[Caroline]

Aaah, I see.  Yes, there does seem to be a pair of glasses with translucent frames? to the right, and also a pair of headphones? again with a white or translucent headband to the left.  You can just make out the dark foam earpieces. Maybe these were used with the clock-radio on the shelf above?

It just looks like surled up wire from the phone to me.

[Myster]

Odd that they each had a different lamp most people have matching lamps.

The older some people get, Scipio, the less bothered they are about matching pairs, and I guess the Bambers weren't too concerned about inviting their nearest neighbours in Pages Lane to show off their bedroom decor.

[Myster]

It just looks like surled up wire from the phone to me.

I thought GPO Type 746 rotary dial phones in 1985 had their own cable permanently attached to the phone which then plugged directly into a wall socket, rather than a separate cable with two plugs - one to plug into a socket on the phone, the other into a wall socket?

The cable/flex on the right doesn't seem thick enough to be used for a phone, but more likely to be thin two wire flex for the headphones... if they are headphones?

[Caroline]

I thought GPO Type 746 rotary dial phones in 1985 had their own cable permanently attached to the phone which then plugged directly into a wall socket, rather than a separate cable with two plugs - one to plug into a socket on the phone, the other into a wall socket?

The cable/flex on the right doesn't seem thick enough to be used for a phone, but more likely to be thin two wire flex for the headphones... if they are headphones?

Whatever kind of cable, it doesn't look like glasses, it looks like cable

[scipio_usmc]

I thought GPO Type 746 rotary dial phones in 1985 had their own cable permanently attached to the phone which then plugged directly into a wall socket, rather than a separate cable with two plugs - one to plug into a socket on the phone, the other into a wall socket?

The cable/flex on the right doesn't seem thick enough to be used for a phone, but more likely to be thin two wire flex for the headphones... if they are headphones?

In 1983 they began changing the design of phones so that they no longer needed to be hard wired.  In 1986 they phased out the hard wired ones entirely.  Because of the lightning storm ruined the old one and he had to change the socket and all it is possible Cresswell installed the new style. Cresswell didn't specify whether he kept the old style or put in the new kind.  What wire could have been used in the kitchen though if it had been left in the bedroom? The kitchen phone was undamaged by the lightning so didn't need to be replaced.

[Opal]

Yes Myster....it's headphones alright. I think your right....it's not glasses...but the cable that run from the headphones. See attachment of old set of headphones in next post.