Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates

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                                                    BURO HAPPOLD...............


I'm starting to come to the opinion... that i don't trust The Computer Anaylist's finding....

So far I have managed to show the irrelevance of alot of those searches and some, where they were impossible to be done.....

I want to look at his earlest searches I think they are important:!!!!

Let me start with BURO HAPPOLD................

Now Buro Happold are a specialist engineering company that have worked on some of the most prestigous Buildings in the world and I'm sure that all of their computer data is highly confidential....

I personally Cannot see BURO HAPPOLD handing over any of there computers without some kind of a warrant!!!

I wonder when the WARRANT for searching `BURO HAPPOLD was Served????????

I have attached a couple of photo's which show an office enviroment that has small desk area's shared by a
number of people...

Now I Do NOT know if Dr Vincent Tabak had a Seperate Office...  BUT.... As he wasn't a CEO... I doubt it!!!!

So we can now picture him in his natural work enviroment!!

See how closely people are working together...
I did say it was possible for anyone to go and use anyones computer!!

Now I do find it a real shame that I can't find anything about what anyone from BURO HAPPOLD said at trial.....

But mostly what I find , is BURO HAPPOLD's willingness to hand over any computers to the POLICE as I'm sure the information contained in them is HIGHLY SENSITIVE!!!!



From Sally Ramage:

15.5. Witness evidence on Wednesday 19 October 2011
The police analyst gave evidence on Wednesday 19 October and claimed that the
following (partly set out below in blue) is the result of her analysis of the metadata from
Buro Happold’s computers and Tabak’s laptops at Flat 2. Prosecuting counsel related to
the witness and she confirmed that her analysis shows that Tabak researched ‘police’,
‘missing persons’, ‘recycling’, etc.
The jury were told that some webpages couldn’t now be recovered as they had been
changed but that some webpages had not changed, and so the prosecution showed films of
some pages that had not been changed.

Again lets split this up!!

Buro Happold’s computers and Tabak’s laptops at Flat 2

COMPUTERS??????? How Many COMPUTERS are BURO HAPPOLD Going to let out of their SIGHT!!!!

The police analyst gave evidence on Wednesday 19 October and claimed that the
following (partly set out below in blue) is the result of her analysis of the metadata from
Buro Happold’s computers

NOW............. like I said.. Buro Happold's Computer Data would be HIGHLY SENSETIVE INFORMATION.... And as we can see, the Police Computer IT Expert has been apparently checking this computer that belonged to BURO HAPPOLD!!!


AGAIN.............

The jury were told that some webpages couldn’t now be recovered as they had been
changed but that some webpages had not changed, and so the prosecution showed films of
some pages that had not been changed.

Can you IMAGINE BURO HAPPOLD CEO being Happy that the supposed IT Expert from the Police has been Messing around with their computer data ... And has changed some web pages!!!!!

Now what are these WEB PAGES ???

Do these web pages pertain to anything to do with BURO HAPPOLD... If So.... did they loose any information???

I'm sure they would have wanted compensation for the Police Destroying the pages contained within the computer Hard Drive....

Question????? Did the Prosecution Bring to Court Buro Happolds COMPUTER to show as Evidence...

OR...... Did they just show slides of what apparently was on them????

Defence Counsel: What project were you working at on December 17?
Tabak: I had been working on a very big project- A Holy Mosque in Mecca- I was doing
some analysis on it – the flow of pilgrims to the Holy Mosque. This was a project that
Buro Happold was tendering for.

See...... HUGH PROJECT!!!!!!!!!!! 

https://www.dezeen.com/2011/05/05/cultural-centre-in-tirana-by-big/

Cultural centre in Tirana by BIG

Rose Etherington | 5 May 2011  14 comments
Danish architects Bjarke Ingels Group have won a competition to design a mosque, Islamic centre and museum in Tirana, Albania.

The three buildings will cluster in a triangle at the corner of the site, with two sides aligned with Tirana's city grid and the third facing Mecca.

Cultural centre in Tirana by BIG
Each will twist to curve over a public plaza in the centre, making this public space into an extension of the cultural centre.

Cultural centre in Tirana by BIG
The mosque will accommodate 1000 worshippers for daily prayers, with the ability to expand through courtyards and the public plaza to accommodate up to 10,000 people for holy days.

Cultural centre in Tirana by BIG
BIG won the competition in collaboration with Martha Schwartz Landscape, Buro Happold , Speirs & Major, Lutzenberger & Lutzenberger, and Global Cultural Asset Management.

So Buro Happold WON in Collaboration with the above... And that was in MAY 2011

So I ask again.. would BURO Happold be happy to hand over any computers to the POLICE?????

The Reason I've started with this is because:...........

The prosecution’s Internet evidence
On 17 December 2010 at 7.45:54 am
Tabak performed a Google search on the words
‘Weather’
‘Bristol’
‘Bath’

Then the Defences timeline for the same day....

Defence Counsel: Turn to entries 6 and 7. Incoming text message 7.35 and reply 7.40.
Defence Counsel: Turn to entry 11.
‘Entry 11- seen past the flat at 9.05 where Tanya had already left for work in a lift-share’.
Text message from Tabak: ‘Love you’.
Text answer from Tanja: Love you too. Pretty snow.
Defence Counsel: What time do you leave for work?
Tabak: 9.00 am.
Defence Counsel: Do you always access weather reports on the Internet?
Tabak: I always access the Internet for weather reports even whilst in Los Angeles. I had
my computers set up for that.
Defence Counsel: Let us look at your movements on Friday 17 December:
Time line 11- left for work
Timeline 12- Cycled to Bristol T Stn
Timeline 13- Train to bath
Timeline 16- Arrive Bath 9.41
Timeline 17- Accessed Internet for weather- at work
Timeline 18- Accessed weather report.
Timeline 19- Accessed weather report.
Timeline 20- Telephone call to Tanja.
Timeline 21- Another telephone call to Tanja.

Now according to the prosecution he accessed the weather for Bristol and Bath at:

On 17 December 2010 at 7.45:54 am

But The Defence say that it is not until line:

Timeline 17- Accessed Internet for weather- at work
Timeline 18- Accessed weather report.
Timeline 19- Accessed weather report.

With Line:

Turn to entries 6 and 7. Incoming text message 7.35 and reply 7.40.

Being before he left for work....

Those being the recieved and the replied to Text messages at that time..

According to the defence he doesn't Access the Weather till line 17..

And we Know what time it is on Line 16:    Timeline 16- Arrive Bath 9.41

So it would be later rather than earlier that he accessed the weather...

Now..........

What you have to Remember is that The Defence have got their TIMELINES From the Prosecution...

That LOVELY 1300 Pages Document That they dropped on the defences lap on the First Day of Trial.....

I Do NOT Know how much of the Information regarding Dr Vincent Tabak' that the Defence Compiled...

But Again.... Did BURO HAPPOLD ..... Also allow the Defence to mess around with their SENSITIVE INFORMATION????

I'd say NO............(IMO)

So i would suggest the information came from the 1300 page Document...

WHY THE DIFFERENT TIMES??????

How can The Prosecution and the Defence Have Different Times regarding the Computer Searches???

AND................ where was the defences Computer IT Specialist????????

Obviously didn't have one.... So they used the information that the Prosecution Provided them with on the DAY of Trial.....

So who would be more accurate????

Lets see how many Times Dr Vincent Tabak used BURO HAPPOLDS COMPUTERS TO SEARCH!!!!!

  Timeline 17- Accessed Internet for weather- at work

On his computer at work, Tabak searched for news on
‘Melanie Hall’
‘Avon and Somerset police home page’
‘News’
‘Murder of Melanie Hall’

 Now why would Dr Vincent Tabak be searching for MELANIE HALL?????

I can't find anything on Melanie Hall on those Dates...

Range of DATES: 17/12/2010 to 21/12/2010

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=melanie+hall&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=966&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A17%2F12%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A21%2F12%2F2010&tbm=

This is between Timeline: 217 and 224
It would have tio RANGE between these DATES BECAUSE:....

At Line 267 of the prosecution chart
at 15.00 pm on 21 December 2010, Tabak searched the words

What reason would Dr Vincent Tabak Possibly have to search for Melanie Hall?????

The only person I believe that search would be for is CJ..... (IMO)  Because they believed CJ had something to do with it... And I presume they where looking for links to Melanie Hall and Glenis Caruthers cases..!!!

Dr Vincent Tabak would not have been in the country when Melanie Hall Died.... He was 18 years old at the time!!!!

At Line 258 (afternoon- at work)
Tabak performed Google searches on the words
‘manslaughter’
‘previous offenders’
‘Maximum sentence Manslaughter’
Tabak then performed a Yahoo search for the words
‘penalty for manslaughter’

At Line 281of the prosecution chart
in the morning -at work, Tabak Googled
‘police’
‘weather forecast’

At Line 286 of the prosecution chart
Tabak at lunchtime- at work-on 22 December 2010
Searched Google for the words
‘What happens forensic?’
Wiki
‘Forensic science and trace evidence

On 5 Jan 2011 lunchtime, Tabak Googled
‘press coverage’
At 3.05 pm, Tabak Googled the words
‘press coverage’
‘missing sock’
At 4.03, Tabak searched online newspaper articles for the words
‘frozen DNA’
‘rubbish collection Clifton 23 December 2010’
On 6 Jan 2011, Tabak researched the words
Pizza box
Tabak Googled the words
‘Rubbish collection York Place Clifton Bristol’
‘Jo Yeates rubbish’
 At 4.10 (pm) Tabak searched on Wikipedia for the words
‘Detention of a suspect’
‘letter and label sent to a public house’

At Line 422 of the prosecution chart
 At 9.10 am (at work)
Tabak searched for press articles on the murder.
Then he Googled the words
‘DNA test’
‘Waste recycling’
‘rubbish collectionAt Line 427 of the prosecution chart
Tabak researched on Wikipedia the words
‘life imprisonment’
‘previous offenders’
‘named persons’
‘sentencing’ ’

WOW... He was at work early that day.....

Now quite honestly I think most of these searches could easily be applied to CJ' looking on the Internet...

Remember the Police believed CJ had done the DEED!!!

Because they could easily apply to CJ....

At Line 340 of the prosecution chart
Tabak Googled on 26 Dec 2010
‘Yeates’
At 3.00 pm he search the Telegraph Newspaper online
At 3:43 pm he searched online global newspapers
At 3.45 pm he searched the words
‘Suspension bridge police footage’

Now we Know he didn't go across The SUSPENSION BRIDGE!!!

But The Police interviewed a witness/suspect who did... And I believe that was CJ.....

I find these searches difficult to believe..... I CANNOT SEE BURO HAPPOLD LETTING GO OF SEVERAL COMPUTER WITH HIGHLY SENSETIVE INFORMATION ON THEM..........

I'm sure they would have put up a fight to release these COMPUTERS!!!! (IMO)!!!


http://www.burohappold.com/about/


EDIT: One Thought... why would Dr Vincent Tabak search these google searches on a works computer???

When if he was trying to be furtive and NOT allow anyone to see what he was searching....

Why DIDN"T he do these SEARCHES on his MOBILE PHONE?????????????

And is it possible to search the Interent on a works computer.....

Alot of companies BLOCK or Ban STAFF for using THEIR COMPUTERS for such ACTIVITIES!!!!!!!


EDIT:  To make a point as to whether Dr Vincent Tabak was alone and if the picture i have provided show his work enviroment...

Vincent works as part of a small team. Most people know him but I doubt many
would class him as a friend.”

AGAIN....................

  “He was well thought of and was always being sent to other offices to help
out. He was very clever and very good at his job.

So... He was on his own............ NOT...(IMO)

He had time to search the internet with ... No one seeing him..... NO... (IMO)

SO..............HOW DOES HE HAVE TIME TO LOOK FOR PORN WHILST HE'S IN AN ENVIROMENT SURROUNDED BY OTHER TEAM MEMBERS!!!!!

IMPOSSIBLE..... (IMO)




https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/321964/vincents-cool-calm-incredibly-intelligent/

EDIT:

“He was well thought of and was always being sent to other offices to help
out. He was very clever and very good at his job.

Just thought I'd add it again... where would he find the time for these searches...porn or otherwise...

I would imagine the free time he had he'd be contacting TANJA!!!!!!!




EDIT:...   

Tabak: I always access the Internet for weather reports even whilst in Los Angeles. I had
my computers set up for that.

Shouldn't that have been LAPTOPS!!!!

I get the feeling Dr Vincent Tabak is trying to tell us something... And that is NOT the first time I have noticed this!!!!!!!





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                                                       The Porn...................



 I WILL WARN YOU..... I'm going to get SHOUTY!!!!!!




Now we only heard about the porn because, it was mentioned in the Papers after the Trial:

But I find some of the descriptions, quite interesting................

Judge said it would be unnecessary for the jury to hear how he had cheated on girlfriend Tanja Morson with a prostitute he met on an escort website
In the weeks after the murder, Tabak Googled 'Jo Yeates' before accessing home-made sex videos
He had looked at porn on the morning of the murder
Police believe he was aroused by the killing
Pictures found on his laptop of blonde woman closely resembling Miss Yeates

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054945/Vincent-Tabak-trial-Jo-Yeates-killer-obsessed-sex-strangulation-prostitutes-porn.html#ixzz4TTWxIm9J

So Homemade MOVIES.... thats one I hadn't heard before.............

Pictures on his laptop of a blonde woman resembling Joanna Yeates.......

Well Tanja Is Blonde maybe they are pictures of her????

Who did he make these homemade MOVIES with??????

No One has come forward to say that they STARRED in them...

You would think they would want there 15  mins of fame!!!!!!

Are the papers suggesting it's Tanja??? I hope not!!!!

Footage found on his laptops depicted women tied up in car boots - just as Miss Yeates's body was temporarily left after she died.
Three pictures also showed a blonde woman in a pink T-shirt and jeans closely resembling Miss Yeates on the night of her death.
Images seized by officers showed the woman with her top pulled up in a similar pose to the one in which Miss Yeates was left when Tabak dumped her body.

Now I don't know about you.... But I remember these pictures were supposed to be of someone in the boot of a car......

Now here is where the problem lies!!!!!!

She was in a BIKE BAG/COVER  in the boot of the car.. And her top was supposed to have ridden up as he was struggling to get her over the wall!!!!!

Other images found on Tabak’s home and work computers included a series in which-semi naked women lay bound and gagged in the boot of a car.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8847951/Vincent-Tabak-developed-sexual-fetish-after-watching-violent-porn-films.html

Now we haven't YET Established if BURO HAPPOLD gave the Police permssion to search there Computers... or if they had a WARRANT.....
Or..... if it was even possible to acess such sites on a work computer!!!!!!

Analysis showed he had viewed films from a series called Sex and Submission, featuring shocking scenes of sexual violence towards women.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8847951/Vincent-Tabak-developed-sexual-fetish-after-watching-violent-porn-films.html

Now me searching for the Title SEX AND SUBMISSION... then looking for images of the girl in the pink T shirt...

I can tell you I got quite an eyefull of something I wasn't quite ready for...!!!

But Then I did my usual and put in a RANGE of DATES:17th Dec 2010 to 31st Dec 2010

 And the first one you come to is :

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4076060/

Which is a TV show.... might not be pleasant... But a TV show all the Same... Now if its a series that they are talking about.. then;

Cast

Series cast summary:
Mark Davis   Mark Davis      
(168 episodes, 2005-2016)
James Deen   James Deen      
(93 episodes, 2005-2015)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1071658/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm#trivia
She's Bleached Blonde

There were PLENTY of EPISODES in the SERIES... So I think that this is Probably what was being refered to!!!!

So how did he watch this TV series?????  If they suggest Payment TV would be the way forward!!!

Now I can see it possible in America... but in this country it would be a little harder to view in the same way...

Where are the transactions showing payment for this series????

In the weeks following the murder, Tabak also spent hours on his computer poring over reports about the investigation – before then logging onto depraved porn sites some of which showed women being choked.

Now we know he didn't spend hours following the investigation... we can see by the timelines!!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8847951/Vincent-Tabak-developed-sexual-fetish-after-watching-violent-porn-films.html

WoW.... looking for Sarah Jay... she's all over the internet... But it's free to watch....

I tell you i'll be gladwhen I've covered this topic!!!!!

But that is the EXACT POINT!!!!!!!

Who Really is going to check whether Dr Vincent Tabak searched for illegal porn or just porn... Or did he even search for porn???????

No one is gonna check it out!!!!!!!!!!! unless you are me.....( I didn't access any Illegal porn site... The pics of the legal one was enough)!!!

He explained that Tabak had even been thinking about pornography on the day he killed Miss Yeates.

From same Telegraph Article:...

How did he know what Dr Vincent Tabak was thinking???????

Details of the Dutchman’s sinister interest in violent pornography can only now be revealed, after the judge Mr Justice Field took the decision to rule such evidence inadmissible on the eve of the trial at Bristol Crown Court.
During legal argument held without in the presence of the jury Tabak’s defence team successfully argued the viewing of such material did not provide evidence that he had intended to kill Miss Yeates or cause her serious harm.
William Clegg QC, defending, argued such evidence might unfairly influence the jury.
During legal argument, the prosecution team led by Nigel Lickley QC told Mr Justice Field: "Pornography depicting violence against women was found in a series of films that the defendant has viewed on his computer, some more than once.
"They depict violent images of women being held by the neck. We submit that these images explain why he held Miss Yeates by the neck."
He went on: “The defendant liked those films because he watched them more than once. That is suggestive of derived sexual pleasure from them.”
He added: “We submit these have a real significance in explaining why the defendant held Joanna Yeates by the neck and killed her.
“We submit that the killing was sexually motivated given the evidence of the movement of the clothing and the DNA on the breast area.”

Now lets break that up:

Details of the Dutchman’s sinister interest in violent pornography can only now be revealed, after the judge Mr Justice Field took the decision to rule such evidence inadmissible on the eve of the trial at Bristol Crown Court.

The EVE??? thats the day before?????   So what day did the Trail start??????

If we go from the 4th October which was a Tuesday .. Then Monday would be the EVE!!!

But if we go from after the Jury were sworn in then the start date would be the 10th Oct 2011 which would be a Monday and the EVE would be the SUNDAY!!!!!

So I'm hazzarding a guess that this was on the 3rd Oct That they were in judges chambers.....

So if they were in Judges Chambers Arguing about the porn on the 3rd Oct 2011.... which I cannot see....

Because it's the day before the Trial starts... so what is the EVE of the porn being admissible or NOT!!!!!!!!!

This is EXTREMELEY IMPORTANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Think I've found when they got the 1300 page Document!!!

3.2. The jury was sworn on 7 October, 2011. The trial was postponed for a day because
Vincent Tabak's defence team, led by William Clegg, QC, pleaded o he judge for extra
time to read an additional 1,300 pages of documentary evidence which the prosecution had
disclosed to them at the last minute.
3.3. The court clerk told the jury that

So with this Information I would guess that this is the day they argued about the Porn charges!!!!!

This Day the Friday 7th October 2011:..................

It could be later but Not before.......

Because The Prosecution would have had to reveal that they had 1300 pages of EVIDENCE on the 4th Oct 2011

So.... what becomes the eve NOW!!!!!!

Lets get back into it.......

So Monday the 10th Oct 2011 is the First Day of Active duty by the JURY!!!!!

Ah................  Again... the devil is in the Detail......

The ORIGINAL 1300 PAGE DOCUMENT HAD TO BE LOTS AND LOTS BIGGER!!!!!!

I'll tell you for why.... If The Prosecution were trying to prove that Dr Vincent Tabak had spent the rest of his TIME viewing VIOLENT PORN,.......

Then That in turn would have created..... LOADS more PAGES to go with the 1300 Page Document!!!!!


Again.... I love the Devil in the DETAIL:................

So we have 15 copies made of this MASSIVE 1300 PAGE DOCUMENT which has MORE PAGES ADDED TO IT...

When the Prosecution Gave NICK CLEGG... His Copy on Friday 7th Oct 2010:

(1):12 Jurors

(2): 1 Judge

(3): 1 Prosecution Counsel

(4): 1Defence Counsel

That is 1300 X 15 = 19500 pages... These are not including the EXTRA PAGES OF THE PORN SEARCHING TIME LINES!!!

So on the 7th October 2011 The Prosecution Council now had to go away... And make 15 more COPIES of the 1300 page DOCUMENT!!!!

Not only that.... they had to spend the Time removing all the Porn related SEARCHES on the DOCUMENT..

So........ That they would have FRESH COPIES FOR THE JURY TO SEE.........


LETS REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!!!!

They would have to do all the TIMELINES AGAIN........... And WOULD the TIMELINES now differ??????

There were 566 timelines to change from what ever number they were before!!!!

BUT....... AGAIN........ Another  BIG BUT.....................

Would they have FURNISHED THE DEFENCE with the NEW REVISED DOCUMENT!!!!!!

So now we have.....  Sally Ramage

When prosecution counsel Nigel Lickley opened the case, he produced copies of an
A3- bound document which consisted of colour-coded pages of the timeline of the alleged
murder: every incident from emails, mobile texts, landline telephone calls, travel,
shopping, etc of the parties involved, ieJoanna Yeates and her cohabitee; and Vincent
Tabak and his cohabitee. Importantly, these schedules also include alleged internet
searches by Dr Tabak. This A3 document looked dauntingly complex and one wonders if
all members of the jury followed this document;

Again look............ I have to say the PROSECUTION... MUST HAVE WORKED ALL WEEKEND!!!!!

When prosecution counsel Nigel Lickley opened the case, he produced copies of an
A3- bound document which consisted of colour-coded pages of the timeline of the alleged
murder: every incident from emails, mobile texts, landline telephone calls, travel,
shopping, etc of the parties involved, ieJoanna Yeates and her cohabitee; and Vincent
Tabak and his cohabitee.

Not ONLY did THE PROSECUTION HAVE TO..............

(1):  Revise the time lines so they didn't have any reference to PORN!!!!

(2):  Print 15 More Copies so 12 Jury Members 1 Judge Defence and Prosecution had 1 each..

(3):  That 19500 pages MORE to print OFF !!!!!!

(4): He Then had to spend the time STUDYING his NEW REVISED FOLDER.... TO.............

(5): Colour CODE them......!!!!!!

At this point the jury on Wednesday morning 19 October 2011, were invited to write into
their copy of the prosecution chart where they see the words typed in by Tabak

SO THE JURY DID HAVE COPIES!!!!!!!!!!!

We can totally understand why he might have left the word "DEFINITION" out of the NEW COPIES.......  *&*%£

At this point the jury on Wednesday morning 19 October 2011, were invited to write into
their copy of the prosecution chart where they see the words typed in by Tabak
‘definition’ before the words ‘sexual conduct’. The jury were invited to write the word
‘definition’, so that this entry is more accurate, the prosecution counsel Nigel Lickley said,
because these words were missed out when the prosecution constructed the chart of
evidence.

Such A BUSY WEEKEND..... To be all prepared for court on MONDAY 10th October 2011.!!! "NOT (IMO)

Are they trying to take us for a RIDE..... I DO NOT BELIEVE that they reproduced any more DOCUMENTS....

AND IF THERE WAS NO REPRODUCTION OF THE 1300 PAGE DOCUMENT ................ THEN.. what happened to the Porn SEARCHES!!!!........

every incident from emails, mobile texts, landline telephone calls, travel,
shopping, etc of the parties involved, ieJoanna Yeates and her cohabitee; and Vincent
Tabak and his cohabitee.

HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE???????????????

(A): How many Colours Did he have ??

(B): Where Dr Vincent Tabaks A different Colour from everyone one else???

(C):So there 5 Catergories there........... 5 COLOURS for INDIVIDUAL CATERGORIES

(D): How Difficult would that be do DO!!!!!

I Do Not Believe That There Was ANY PORN Which the Prosecution let The MEDIA believe...
Because I think it's PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.......... For Them to Reproduce All of the TIMELINES x 15 And Colour Code over 566 EVENTS In The 1300 Page DOCUMENT OVER THE WEEKEND...

According to the expert police computer analyst and as tabulated in he prosecution’s thick
A3 booklet of a timeline of 566 events, Dr Tabak went to the computer and created the
following Prosecution Internet evidence:

Oh DEAR................ I forgot about her......... THATS ANOTHER LOAD OF WORK!!!!!!!

She used a computer screen to tell the STORY OF dr Vincent Tabak's COMPUTER SEARCHES.....

NOW......... Does that mean that the IT...... EXPERT.... HAD to Then spend her TIME... Reajusting ALL The TIMELINES of Dr Vincent Tabak's Computer SEARCHES... So they would be in LINE with the PROSECUTIONS..

New AND REVISED TIMELINES................. I THINK NOT...............(IMO)!!!!!!


The Prosecution would have had to PAINSTAKING go through every time line, which not only included searches for PORN... But APPRANT TRANSACTIONS FOR PORN............ "OUCH!!!"

THAT"S 1300 PAGES PLUS!!!!!!!

WHO DID THE PROOF READING OF THIS DOCUMENT READY FOR COURT ON MONDAY 10th OCTOBER 2011.......



How long Do You Think it would Have Taken The Prosecution to COMPILE this Document in the First Place???????

How did they manage to have 15 x 1300 pages on a surface and put them all in the correct ORDER in Time for court?????

Making DAMN SURE That EVERY SINGLE COPY WAS IN THE CORRECT ORDER!!!!!!!

They might have shown the JUDGE Pictures ETC.... BUT THEY STILL WOULD HAVE NEEDED TO ADJUST THE TIMELINE...............


And if it was the 4thOct....  he still had only a few days... because he gave CLEGG a COPY on the 7th JANUARY 2011


But AGAIN.... Dr Vincent Tabak didn't appear in court till the 4th... So I'm going with the 7th October 2010 for the first time the defence saw anything to do with the PORN!!!!!!

EDIT:........

5.5. Witness evidence on Wednesday 19 October 2011
The police analyst gave evidence on Wednesday 19 October and claimed that the
following (partly set out below in blue) is the result of her analysis of the metadata from
Buro Happold’s computers and Tabak’s laptops at Flat 2. Prosecuting counsel related to
the witness and she confirmed that her analysis shows that Tabak researched ‘police’,
‘missing persons’, ‘recycling’, etc.

WHAT IS GLARING OBVIOUSLY MISSING FROM THIS STATEMENT:???????????????????????????????

Two counts of making indecent photographs of children between 2009 and 2011, relating to 23 images found on external hard drives, were ordered to lie on file.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/vincent-tabak-joanna-yeates-murderer-5260659

WHY WASN'T THE EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE MENTIONED BEFORE??????????????

It is NOT MENTIONED IN THE SALLY RAMAGE PAPERS..................

SOZ........ANOTHER EDIT:

Experts were also able to show that Tabak logged onto a pornographic website on the morning of December 17, the day he murdered Miss Yeates.

Noticed he LOGGED ON..........= INTERNET SEARCH....... WHERE THE BE JESUS IS IT!!!!!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8847951/Vincent-Tabak-developed-sexual-fetish-after-watching-violent-porn-films.html


And sureley if there was Evidence on there it would have been Part of the supposed PORN"............AND AT LEAST A MENTION WOULD HAVE HAPPENED!!!!

So................. NO CHILD PORN EITHER.................

And Why would they need to leave these LIE ON FILE........????? A BIT OF LEVERAGE FOR THE FUTURE......... PERHAPS!!!!! 


No child Porn.... No Porn.. Porn.....either!!!!


THERE WAS NO PORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(IMO)..........

DOUBLE EDIT: RANGE OF DATES 8/12/2010 to 11/11/2011

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=vincent+tabak+porn+external+hard+drives&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=966&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A08%2F12%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A11%2F11%2F2011&tbm=

Not A SNIFF!!!!!!!!!!!!  NO MENTION OF EXTERNAL HARDDRIVES!!!!!!!!!!!


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Just to add to this post.....

How would Dr Vincent Tabak be ready to leave work at 5:06pm?????

Most Cyclists wear Cycle gear....

My Husband does... And what he needs when he's cycled to work, is a shower and a change of clothing...

So did Dr Vincent Tabak need to change clothes when he got to work or when he was about to leave work????

That would defineatley change his timelines!!!!!!

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Just another wee thought............

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/11/01/child-porn-on-joanna-kill_n_1069041.html

Did they have to remove all these from the timeline DOCUMENT the Jury SAW!!!!!!!!

Does that mean these didn't exist either???????

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                                               Lets apply it to CJ.............


Now of course I am not saying that CJ had anything to do with this Crime...

But when I looked at the Computer searches I thought, with what CJ said  at the Leveson Inquiry, what if I change the name from Dr Vincent Tabak to CJ....

And Knowing That the Police believe right up until.. March that he was involved, lets suggest the searches are CJ's...
(of courses they're not) But Just for arguments sake........

Maybe That was why the IT EXPERT lost some PAGES......... (Oopsie... Naughty)... A mere Suggestion (IMO)

Lets Start with CJ's Leveson Inquiry Statement...............

My second statement to the police oil Wednesday 22 December 2010
,
On Tuesday 21 December 2010 1 provided a statement to the police who were at that
time searching the entire house and all the flats in it and taking statements from all tile
residents. I was not being treated as a suspect. At the time the police said to all of us
that if we subsequently remembered anything that could be material we should get
back in touch, That evening I remembered something else that I had not mentioned to
the police that I thought could possibly be material. This was that one evening, which
might have been Friday 17 December 2010, as I was coming back from fine gym at
about 9pm, I had parked my car on the road and was just walking through the gates of
the main driveway, when I became aware of what sounded like two or perhaps three
people leaving by the side gate on the other side of the house which I could not see a


there is a hedge in between and it was dark, I duly telephoned the police and relayed
this.
,
The next day, Wednesday 22 December 2010, the same officer who had taken my
first statement came back to my fiat and took a second statement about this. The
officer asked me if one of tile voices could have been a woman’s voice. I responded
that it could have been but that I could not say either way. The police have since
confirmed to me that the fact flint I gave a supplementary statement raised their
suspicions in relation to me. On the basis of what ensued, I believe it is likely that the
police passed these suspicions on to rite media.

So he knew that the Supplementary Statement... had changed the Polices view of him......

The prosecution’s Internet evidence
On 17 December 2010 at 7.45:54 am
CJ performed a Google search on the words
‘Weather’
‘Bristol’
‘BathOn 18 Dec 2010,CJ searched at
1.26 am- ‘BBC news’ and ‘weather forecast’
1.46 am- ‘weather forecast’
1.47 am- ‘BBC Bristol news’
 At Line 129 of the prosecution chart
CJ accessed
‘murder of 4 year old girl in London’
At Line 171 of the prosecution chart
CJ accessed ‘Map of Bristol’.
Again, the Prosecution repeated their show the film of the road where Joanna Yeates was
found although this could not be accessed on Map of Bristol.
At Line 216 of the prosecution chart
CJ searched
‘Weather’
At Line 217 of prosecution chart
CJ searched for
‘Murder inquiry- 4 arrested in Bristol’
He also searched
‘South African murder’
‘Dewani’
 On his computer CJ searched for news on
‘Melanie Hall’
‘Avon and Somerset police home page’
‘News’
‘Murder of Melanie Hall’
At Line 224 of prosecution chart
CJ searched the words
‘Missing persons’.

Melanie Hall.... Fits better with CJ... As we know CJ had NOTHING to do with Melanie Hall... But at the time of this crime the police were looking for conections to unsolved cases... Including Glenis Caruthers.....


This is from the Leveson Enquiry :............

The Police may now re-open the
nearby unsolved 1974 killing of Glenis Carruthers".

 Dated: The Daily Mirror, 31 December 2010:

Notice the Date!!!! It was when CJ was in Police Custody!!!!

At Line 226 of prosecution chart
CJ  searched for the words
‘Avon Police’
‘Bristol area weather forecast’.
At Line 225 (sic)
CJ searched using the words
‘Joanna Yeates’
‘Salt supplies in the Bristol
At Line 257 of the prosecution Chart
CJ  searched on Google Maps for
‘Longwood Lane’
At Line 258
CJ performed Google searches on the words
‘manslaughter’
‘previous offenders’
‘Maximum sentence Manslaughter’
CJ then performed a Yahoo search for the words
‘penalty for manslaughter’

What Really is the difference so far???????  I've had to change The "Netherlands for Bristol and remove references for work... But..

All in All...... This looks the same!!!!

At Line 267 of the prosecution chart
at 15.00 pm on 21 December 2010, CJ searched the words
‘Jo Yeates’
At Line 271 of the prosecution chart

At Lines 276-277 of the prosecution chart,
at 11.00 pm on 21December 2010, CJ searched
‘Press coverage’
At Line 281of the prosecution chart
CJ Googled
‘police’
‘weather forecast’
At Line 286 of the prosecution chart
CJ at lunchtime-22 December 2010
Searched Google for the words
‘What happens forensic?’
Wiki
‘Forensic science and trace evidence’

This Internet Searching could be Applied to Just about ANYONE!!!!!!

At Line 287 of the prosecution chart
at 1.00 pm, CJ searched the words
‘Yeates’
‘Police’
At Line 288 of the prosecution chart
CJ Googled the words
‘CCTV Canynge Road’
 At Line 291 of the prosecution chart:
In the afternoon of 22 Dec 2010, CJ searched Wikipedia for the words
‘Crown Prosecution Service’
‘Jo Yeates’
Then he Googled the word
‘manslaughter’
Then back to Wikipedia, CJ searched the words
‘murder

It's looking Good.....

At Line 292 of the prosecution chart
CJ Googled the words
‘manslaughter sentencing’
Then he went to Wikipedia website to search the words
‘manslaughter in English law murder in English law’
CJ \on 22 Dec 2010
and at home he Googled

At Line 305 of the prosecution chart
PC Karen Thomas went to 44 Canynge Road to search
At Line 311 of the prosecution search
CJ Googled the words
‘body discomposition time’ (sic)

Now...... That Last QUOTE... would tie in with this................

The next day, Wednesday 22 December 2010, the same officer who had taken my
first statement came back to my fiat and took a second statement about this.

That would fit in with Line:305


Also I believe that this would be around the time Dr Vincent Tabak went to Cambridge for Christmas to see Tanja's
family... Think It was the 23rd December 2010.... But i'm not positive....!!!!

At Lines 311 (a to g) of the prosecution chart (on 23 December 2010)
CJ searched Wikipedia for the terms
‘decomposition’
‘ how fast does body decompose’
‘ film of body decomposing’
‘what takes place from hour to hour after death’
‘what happens to human body after death’
At Line 318 of the prosecution chart
CJ searched the words
‘penalty for manslaughter’
At Line 321 of the prosecution chart
CJ Googled the words
‘Jo Yeates’

What is the difference so far?????? Can't see any!!

At Line 340 of the prosecution chart
CJ Googled on 26 Dec 2010
‘Yeates’
At 3.00 pm he search the Telegraph Newspaper online
At 3:43 pm he searched online global newspapers
At 3.45 pm he searched the words
‘Suspension bridge police footage’
At Line 347 of the prosecution chart
CJ searched Google maps for
‘maps to Longwood lane’
‘Mirror newspaper website’
‘BBC news’
‘alcohol –police limits’

NOW.... We are aware that somebody was Interviewed regards going over Clifton Suspension Bridge.. And it was NOT Dr Vincent Tabak.........

At Line 368 of the prosecution chart
CJ  searched for the Press release about
‘domestic rubbish’
‘Yeates’
‘architect’s killer’
‘maps for Clifton Road’
‘Clifton Road rubbish’
‘393 tons of rubbish trawled through’
‘household collections- Bristol City Council’
‘recycling’
At Line 369 of the prosecution search
CJ searched for the words
‘amounts of rubbish seized’
 At Line 372 of the prosecution chart
CJ Googled the words
‘BCC household rubbish collections’
 At Line 376 of the prosecution chart
CJ research was categorised by the police analyst into ‘
‘Google’
‘forensic’
‘location

Well..... the searches are pretty none descript really... So all you have to do is change the name of the person who it applies to!!!!

At Line 368 of the prosecution chart
CJsearched for the Press release about
‘domestic rubbish’
‘Yeates’
‘architect’s killer’
‘maps for Clifton Road’
‘Clifton Road rubbish’
‘393 tons of rubbish trawled through’
‘household collections- Bristol City Council’
‘recycling’
At Line 369 of the prosecution search
CJ searched for the words
‘amounts of rubbish seized’
 At Line 372 of the prosecution chart
CJ Googled the words
‘BCC household rubbish collections’
 At Line 376 of the prosecution chart
CJ's research was categorised by the police analyst into ‘
‘Google’
‘forensic’
‘location

Again Could be anyone....!!!!

CJ Googled the words
‘Rubbish collection York Place Clifton Bristol’
‘Jo Yeates rubbish’
 At 4.10 (pm) CJ searched on Wikipedia for the words
‘Detention of a suspect’
‘letter and label sent to a public house’
CJ Goggled the words:
‘Yeates’
‘Avon & Somerset police’
And at 5.00 pm, CJ researched on
Google map
‘Clifton Richmond Terrace’
At Line 422 of the prosecution chart
 At 9.10 am
CJ searched for press articles on the murder.
Then he Googled the words
‘DNA test’
‘Waste recycling’
‘rubbish collection’

What is it saying..... Nothing!!!!

At Line 427 of the prosecution chart
CJ researched on Wikipedia the words
‘life imprisonment’
‘previous offenders’
‘named persons’
‘sentencing’
In January 2011, at Line 10 of the prosecution chart
CJ Googled news about Joanna Yeates and a label and letter sent to a public house.
He Googled the words
‘Jo Yeates’
‘Jo Yeates murder’
At Line 443 of the prosecution chart
CJ researched the words
‘Yeates’ under news!
At Line 444-447 of the prosecution chart
CJ continued his research. He Googled the word
‘Yeates’
At Line 449 of the prosecution chart
CJ Googled the words
‘police found significant evidence’
At Line 451 of the prosecution chart
CJ did further research on 11 Jan 2011
CJ continued his research
At Line 457 of the prosecution chart
CJ  did a Google search of the word
‘aggravating’

What I find odd... Is where we don't have specific dates when its round the time CJ would be in custody!!!

And the fact that i already pointed out that Dr Vincent Tabak hadn't  searched for anything regarding CJ's arrest...!!!!

Or Landlord... Or The Blue Door...... Tabak being away when CJ was arrested.....

NINE did a Wikipedia search of the word
‘murder’

Again.... Anyone..!!

At Line 458 of the prosecution chart
CJGoogled the words
‘average manslaughter’
At Line 459 of the prosecution chart,
CJ had Googled the words:
‘penalty manslaughter’
At Line 464 of the prosecution chart
CJ searched for the words
‘CPS’
‘Sentencing’

At Line 465 of the prosecution chart
CJ went to the Wiki page to search the words
‘Definition of murder’
At Lines 488-491 of the prosecution chart
CJ searched for an article on ‘Yeates’.
On 13 January 2011 at 5:04 pm
CJ Googled
‘news articles on Yeates’’.
At Line 523 of the prosecution chart
CJ accessed a Magazine articleAt
Line 566 of the prosecution chart
At 6.00 pm on 19 Jan 2011, CJ searched the webpage of Avon & Somerset police.

Basically these searches could be applied to Anyone who had the slightest connection to Jo Yeates....

So searches DO NOT.... show intent.....

They should not be allowed in court....

Now ..... I'm going to add a couple of quotes that have WORK references or DUTCH References :

On his computer at work, Tabak searched for news on
‘Melanie Hall’
‘Avon and Somerset police home page’
‘News’
‘Murder of Melanie Hall’

Theres one........

At Line 258 (afternoon- at work)
Tabak performed Google searches on the words
‘manslaughter’
‘previous offenders’
‘Maximum sentence Manslaughter’
Tabak then performed a Yahoo search for the words
‘penalty for manslaughter’

Why is AFTERNOON-AT WORK... in Brackets?????

At Line 281of the prosecution chart
in the morning -at work, Tabak Googled
‘police’
‘weather forecast’

Little hyphen there .....

At Line 286 of the prosecution chart
Tabak at lunchtime- at work-on 22 December 2010
Searched Google for the words
‘What happens forensic?’
Wiki
‘Forensic science and trace evidence

Again.... A little Hyphen???/

At Line 292 of the prosecution chart
Tabak Googled the words
‘manslaughter sentencing’
Then he went to Wikipedia website to search the words
‘manslaughter in English law murder in English law’
Tabak left work at 5.06pm \on 22 Dec 2010

Again A Backslash there.................

At Line 422 of the prosecution chart
 At 9.10 am (at work)
Tabak searched for press articles on the murder.
Then he Googled the words
‘DNA test’
‘Waste recycling’
‘rubbish collection’

Brackets again for AT WORK....??????

At Line 267 of the prosecution chart
at 15.00 pm on 21 December 2010, Tabak searched the words
‘Extradition of Dutchman’
‘Jo Yeates’
At Line 271 of the prosecution chart
Tabak searched the Dutch word
‘doodslag’ (English meaning: ‘manslaughter’)

Now i find this Interesting... This is one of the few times he apparently searches in DUTCH.... And as we know now...
DOODSLAG means EUTHANASIA in DUTCH!!!!!

Again Brackets.....

On 23 Dec 2010 at 4.00 pm
Tabak searched the Dutch Wikipedia for the words
‘extradition’
‘Yeates’
‘missing persons’
‘% of grey cars in UK’
‘Renault Megan cars in UK’

Now I like this one...... because like i have said many times before... this search would not be in a DUTCH wiki!!!!!

They don't give a flying fig about how many MEGAN cars are in the UK and what %........

But if we do this:....................

On 23 Dec 2010 at 4.00 pm
CJ  searched the Wikipedia for the words
‘Yeates’
‘missing persons’
‘% of grey cars in UK’
Vauxhall cars in UK’

Sorry I don't know what car CJ had, so I'm hazzarding a guess!!!

But The search makes more sense when applied to CJ........!!!! I've attached a picture of CJ's car being towed away....


Now..... This could be a reason why they are all the searches are in English... and not DUTCH!!! Because as my Brother in law says:

We Dutchies Google in Dutch!!!!

Again.... the Computer search NONE EVIDENCE is NONESENSE!!!!

The jury were told that some webpages couldn’t now be recovered as they had been
changed but that some webpages had not changed, and so the prosecution showed films of
some pages that had not been changed.

Showed Films??????? wheres the hard EVIDENCE..... I can show anyone a film!!!!!!!!!

APOLOGIES CJ..... I'm Just using you as an example 

And... Sally Ramage papers for my info.....

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Now After All the negative Press That Dr Vincent Tabak recieved after the Trial....

which I'm sure you will agree.... I have proven it's all Rubbish..... I'd like to take the opportunity to put forward the descriptions of Dr Vincent Tabak that where made before this complete c**k up!!!

I WILL START WITH THE POLICEMAN'S COMMENT:

Quote
A very PLACID individual to deal with

His PhD thesis mentions drinking as one of his interests and refers to an
initial “struggle” after arriving in England.

Thats how they used the drinking against him!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeroen Harink said: “I’m totally shocked. I had to think to remember who
Vincent is because he was such a quiet and serious person.

One colleague at consultant engineers Buro Happold in Bath said: “He is
everything you expect from a Dutch bloke.

Joanna Yeates murder suspect Vincent Tabak. Blonde women is believed to be girlfriend Tanja Morson
“He’s quiet, very laid-back and from what I know has a good sense of
humour. He never seems to be flustered and is very polite.

He was a computer whizkid and would help analyse 3D images of buildings.

“He was generally known by everyone for being very smart and very
hard-working. I think he was a nice guy — but I would never see him out in
the bars or clubs.”

“Vincent is an incredibly intelligent man. He was popular. and never struck me
as the sort of person who had enemies.”

“He was well thought of and was always being sent to other offices to help
out. He was very clever and very good at his job.

Former fellow students in Eindhoven, where Tabak studied architecture, were
amazed someone so ordinary could be under suspicion.

Daan Willems added: “He was just an ordinary guy, just a boy, just normal.
I can’t imagine anything like this could be possible.”

“We weren’t close friends, but I worked with him occasionally. He was generally regarded by everyone as being very smart and very hard working.

His wife Elizabeth added: “We have seen what happened to the landlord (earlier suspect Chris Jefferies) – and we don’t want the same to happen to our lovely Vincent.”

One of his former neighbours said yesterday: “He is serious-minded and highly intelligent – an interesting chap to have around.

“The only reason he left was because he wanted to set up home with his girlfriend.

“We never saw her – Vincent always lived a fairly solitary sort of life, but he was always very polite. He had a bike and went out a lot but we don’t know where he went – we never saw him drunk or anything like that. I think he was writing a thesis.”

A spokesman at Tabak’s workplace refused to comment yesterday, saying: “We have no information to give. Please contact the police.”But a colleague revealed Tabak worked on what the company called its “smart team”.

The workmate added: “He was obviously very bright and highly regarded. He’s quite tall and would always come to work wearing the same leather jacket.

“We’re all stunned by his arrest. He seems like a decent bloke.”

His brother, Marcel, said relatives in his native Holland were devastated to learn of the arrest. Speaking from his home in the village of Doornenburg, 60 miles east of Amsterdam, he said: ‘He’s a lovely man and I absolutely think they have got the wrong person.’

Speaking at her home in Doornenburg, near Arnhem, Pauline Tabak, the suspect's sister-in-law, said: "He is a kind, friendly, intelligent guy. He is well-educated and has a good family and a good job. He is not capable of murdering anybody – absolutely not. He is a sweet, gentle person.

The sister of Vincent Tabak, the man accused of murdering Joanna Yeates, insisted last night that her “little brother” could not be not a killer.

Dr Cora Tabak, an adviser on public health, said his family had been dumbfounded by the news that he had charged with the murder.

His brother, Marcel, suggested he had been made a “scapegoat”.

Speaking at her home in Utrecht in the Netherlands Dr Cora Tabak said: “I have been sitting open-mouthed since Vincent was charged.

“We can't believe it. Anyone who knows him knows he could never be a killer.

“He is very gentle and social. There is no aggressiveness in him in any way.

He is a straight-forward and open person. What you see is what you ge

His girlfriend Tanja is as upset and shocked as well, they are still very much together and she is very concerned about him,” she said.

Meanwhile Mr Tabak’s brother insisted: “It is nonsense, he has been made a scapegoat.

“I can't imagine they have got anything on him - the police have panicked and arrested him and then charged him … There is no way Vincent could have done this.

“It is completely impossible. My mother is very upset by this, we all are.”

AND MARCEL........ I TRUELY BELIEVE YOUR STATEMENT......................... IT"S IMPOSSIBLE





And I'd like to add the last quote from the Dr Vincent Tabak himself..............

Last but not least, I want to thank my girlfriend Tanja Morson for her
support in the last difficult month of my PhD. I am very happy that she
entered my life.”

He also thanks his late father and Tanja for help and support with his
research work.

Tabak writes: “I miss you and regret that you are not able to see the end
result of my PhD.

All of the above quotes are from the links below.. appart from the Policemans quote... which you can find on aa program "JUDGE RINDER CRIMES: Joanna Yeates.....


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8276162/Jo-Yeates-did-not-know-Vincent-Tabak-says-her-father.html


 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1349356/Joanna-Yeates-murder-suspect-Vincent-Tabak-split-girlfriend.html#ixzz4TbP3mxpH


https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/321964/vincents-cool-calm-incredibly-intelligent/


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jo-yeates-murder-vincent-tabak-105736

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8277067/Joanna-Yeates-murder-Vincent-Tabaks-sister-insists-he-could-not-be-the-killer.html

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Something I was just thinking about............

With all of Dr Vincent Tabak's supposed searches.... I was just wondering..........

Who as actually seen these 1300 page document......

There really should be quite alot of Dutch translated.... (texts Emails... etc)

We know he text Tanja Regularly, But No one has mentioned ,Whether he text His Brother Marcel..
Or his sister Cora.... what about his other sister and his mother....

Infact......... where are all the call logs and texts to his family in this Document??

He was planning to stay with them for the New Year,....

Yet there isn't one mention of any contact with his family...

The only time we here about Dr Vincent Tabak's family is after he's arrested????



This is another reason, I find the supposed searches that Dr Vincent Tabak had brought against him in Court...

ONE.... Dutch word in how many days???????

At Line 271 of the prosecution chart
Tabak searched the Dutch word
‘doodslag’ (English meaning: ‘manslaughter’)

I find it impossible for a Dutchman to use just ONE Dutch word in.........

Do you realise that is One Dutch word from the early morning of the 17th December 2010 to the 19th January 2011.......

That is impossible!!! he would be craving to either speak in his Native tongue or Converse on the Internet or phone in his Native Tongue!!!!!!


Do people really believe that these searches were even his????? where is all the translations???

They chuck in a couple of Dutch References and ONE Dutch word and expect everyone to believe, that it's his computer searches!!!!!!!!!! (IMO)

I have a real question here:..............

Does anyone know if Lyndsey Farmery is Bilingual???????

It's a really fair point !!!!!!!

We know Dr Vincent Tabak is Tri-lingual , He speaks, Dutch, English AND German....

I'll make my apologies now..... But... I honestly do not believe that Lyndsey Farmery speaks DUTCH!!!!!!

So.... how can you have an IT Expert who does not speak Dutch, Translate, the Google Searches of a DUTCHMAN!!!!

I'm am more than positive that he would Google in Dutch....

And unless Lyndsey Farmery can explain, when she learnt Dutch and how she managed to Translate, the Crap about Porn... or all of the searches that make up the 566 timelines !!!!


Lyndsey Love????? Do you speak DUTCH... if yes, accept my apologies........... BUT I DOUBT IT!!!!(IMO)

OMG.......... I think when I was trying CJ as the person for the Searches, thats why they fit...

And believe me I am not saying CJ did those searches either......

Who has been porkie pie-ing It.. !!! (IMO)

So NOW,... what should we make of these SEARCHES????????

You see..... I know for a fact the Dutch like to converse in Dutch... when my brother in-law Visits, he and his son chat away in Dutch all the time... And when they are involved in the conversation they both speak English..

My nephew is 5 years old..... And even though he learnt English from his mother first... his preferred language is Dutch!!!

He seems to find speaking English tiring!!!! He even prefers me to find him something Dutch on the internet for him to watch...... and he chats away in Dutch at the screen... laughing and giggling..

Which brings to mind another possibility... How tiring is it speaking another language???  i mean in general??

Much was made out about when Dr Vincent Tabak went and meet friends with Tanja on the 18th December 2010.. I think it was.....

Some said he was bored and looking around ,.. I think a few may have thought that he was disinterested..

Has anybody thought for one minute he may have been extremely tired??

He had only got back from the U.S.A on the 11th December 2010.. (JET LAG).....

 Then back to work on the 14th December 2010... In a meeting no doubt about the project he was working on...

So by the weekend he was probably knackered... Not in the mood for socialising.....

I think all he really wanted to do was spend his time with his girlfriend Tanja...

(1): So what's left????

(2): The Porn doesn't Exist!!!!!

(3): The DNA doesn't fit!!!! and he would have been ruled out at the latest 3rd January 2011.. (i'm being generous       
       there.........(48 hours to turn round )......

(4):The Searches I can't even see them being his... (IMO)  NOT ENOUGH DUTCH!!!!!


(5): So why is this man in PRISON???????????????? 

(6): Because I do NOT Believe he killed Joanna Yeates!!!!  (IMO)

(7):The Confession to the Pretend Vicar.. was not a Confession....

 And we still don't know why there where 8 fire trucks there on Christmas Day.....

Think my brother in law's ear is going to get some bending when he comes.... Can't see a DUTCHMAN Not speaking or at least Writing in Dutch for all that time.....

AGAIN....... It's not possible...


Did the defence not ask Dr Vincent Tabak about conversing in DUTCH???

And I do not mean on the WITNESS STAND!!!!!


So again I was thinking... If he was on Buro Happold computers searching... PORN.. SEARCHES ETC... Then he would have done it in Dutch as not to be found out by his work mates and anyone else that was close to him...

But i still don't believe BURO HAPPOLD HANDED OVER THEIR HARDRIVES without a FIGHT!!!!!!

I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THIS!!!!


Wouldn't they have TWO COPIES of anything Dr Vincent Tabak.. searched text etc..!!!!

The Original DUTCH AND THE TRANSLATED TEXT... So what happened to the ORIGINAL DUTCH TEXT????

You would need both..So the Translations could be verified AND... Google is never a good idea to use as a TRANSLATOR!!!!!!

LYNDSEY.... How's your DUTCH??????????

I think I will try and do a Tally of how many times they speak Dutch, in the week that I see them!!!!


Oh Yes..... And the HEALEYS CIDER AND TATTINGER REIMS CHAMPAGNE CORK ON THE TABLE IN JO'S FLAT... that wasn't Dr Vincent Tabak's either!!!!!!!!!



Hang on a MO......

15.5. Witness evidence on Wednesday 19 October 2011
The police analyst gave evidence on Wednesday 19 October and claimed that the
following (partly set out below in blue) is the result of her analysis of the metadata from
Buro Happold’s computers and Tabak’s laptops at Flat 2. Prosecuting counsel related to
the witness and she confirmed that her analysis shows that Tabak researched ‘police’,
‘missing persons’, ‘recycling’, etc.
The jury were told that some webpages couldn’t now be recovered as they had been
changed but that some webpages had not changed, and so the prosecution showed films of
some pages that had not been changed.
The jury looked at pages that have not been changed, allegedly (as the defence did not
dispute (by defence forensic analysis or otherwise) any of the police computer evidence
whatsoever. Defence lawyers did not even attempt to show that metadata cannot be
preserved and thus such electronic evidence may be partly unreliable. The prosecution
evidence was bounded into a huge volume of A3 width and one wonders whether it was
lack of Legal Aid funding that prohibited the defence team from challenging this evidence.

Sally Ramage:......

The jury were told that some webpages couldn’t now be recovered as they had been
changed but that some webpages had not changed, and so the prosecution showed films of
some pages that had not been changed.

So............. The Jury had to NOW TRANSLATE DUTCH??????  If these were the ORIGINAL FILES  they were looking at of Dr Vincent Tabak..  How DID THE JURY UNDERSTAND DUTCH!!!!!!!

 *&*%£

You Couldn't make this stuff up ...could you....... (IMO)

Who was in COURT as An INDEPENDANT Translator... when Dr Vincent Tabak was on trial?????

We KNOW he didn't have a Translator!!!!!!!!

So which clever dick Translated  all the DUTCH.... ???????

EDIT:.... I've attached another picture from twitter..... Can anyone Translate it???????????

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'm going to keep with Lyndsey Farmery for a moment......

Her job Title is Interesting for starters: Internet Use Analyst ?????

What in gods name is that?????
Where back to Beyoncey Again!!!!!

Now does she have a degree in IT ?????????

Probabaly Not...........

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I'll go with the first one...... (IMO)

So with her vast knowledge and Computer Accumin I'm sure she did what anyone does and went straight in Googles Internet history....

My Real problem and I'm not letting it go ... Is I do not believe these searches were even Dr Vincent Tabak's (IMO)


It's the Dutch wiki thing...... It's NOT RIGHT......

At Line 271 of the prosecution chart
Tabak searched the Dutch word
‘doodslag’ (English meaning: ‘manslaughter’)
A

It's because of this Line...... Line 271....


I think I know what was Done!!!!!!

Now if you want people to believe that he searched the word DOODSLAG.... And as she Implies it means Manslaughter, how would you Do THAT??????


Quite easily..... you would go to the ENGLISH GOOGLE And put the search in: Dutch word for Manslaughter!!!!!!
And the result below is what you get is this....

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=dutch%20word%20for%20manslaughter

But if you are Dutch you would simply put the word DOODSLAG into GOOGLE!!! And wouldn't need to go to the DUTCH WIKI.....



Because AGAIN...... The FIRST SEARCH IS GOOGLE.......... THEN WIKI.................
But whoever wrote the word DOODSLAG.... Wanted to know it was English for Manslaughter!!!!!!!



The Dutch Wiki = https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doodslag In DUTCH..
And now the TRANSLATION = https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doodslag... Translated into English...

But we have come to Understand that DOODSLAG actually means Euthanasia in Dutch!!!!!

So she OBVIOUSLY is NOT BILINGUAL....... OOspie Lyndsey... You Not Bilingual Love?????
In My Opinion...... These searches are made up..... I believe that they are a COMPLETE UNTRUE...!!!!!!!!




BECAUSE SOMEONE HAS GONE TO GOOGLE AND THE FIRST OPTION IS Wiki!!!! That is why I trueley believe that these search pages HAVE been interferred with!!!!!! (IMO)

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=doodslag



She never TRANSLATED ANYTHING ON Dr Vincent Tabak's Computer in my Opinion.... And by looking what i have shown you...
I'm sure you'll come to the same conclusion ,that it wasn't the Dutch Wiki That Was Searched!!!! It was The ENGLISH GOOGLE looking for the DUTCH WWORD DOODSLAG!!!!!!!!!!!(IMO)



HE"S DUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he would know the word DOODSLAG....
OMG.... Some people are Dorks!!! Do they really believe people ARE THAT GULLIBLE??????




BUT.........A Jury that  is not concentrating....... They wouldn't pick up on it!!!!! And where back to!!
GOOGLE.......... FORENSIC............ LOCATION.........



WOW Again......... This is just Unbelievable.......
In My Opinion Miss IT USE ANALYIST.....!!!!!


I  Believe,,... That these Are not The Web searches of Dr Vincent Tabak.... (IMO)
You Did Not Have Buro Happold's Computers  to search...... As They would not let them out of there hands to someone who hasn't got at least a PHD In An IT FIELD......(IMO) Have you Miss It Person... A Little Degree in IT anywhere about your person?????


And if Dr Vincent Tabak had done any searching he was keeping PRIVATE he would have SEARCHED IN DUTCH!!!!!
And I'm sure your a little Rusty with Your DUTCH........


I Believe.... That because you did not UNDERSTAND That the word Doodslag in Dutch means EUTHANSIA, that YOUR Understanding of the DUTCH LANGUAGE is NONE EXISTENT........



I Believe That Dr Vincent Tabak would not look at a Dutch Wiki to find what Manslaughter meant!!!! (IMO)
I Believe thats why this line exists:Line 258 (IMO)

At Line 258 (afternoon- at work)
Tabak performed Google searches on the words
‘manslaughter’
‘previous offenders’
‘Maximum sentence Manslaughter’
Tabak then performed a Yahoo search for the words
‘penalty for manslaughter’

[/quote]


After Preforming this search.....
Why would he then need to look at a Dutch wiki for the word Manslaughter on line 271

I believe it's because someone thought it a GOOD Idea to chuck a bit of DUTCH in There!!!!!!  (IMO)
Well......It would have been more believable if there was tons od DUTCH In THOSE Searches!!!!!!! (IMO)


When line 258 He apparently already new what manslaughter was!!!!!!!!!!


Because by putting that in line: At Line 271  which was on the 21st Dec 2010
And later when on the 22nd Dec 2010
According to these naff searches he put this :

At Line 291 of the prosecution chart:
In the afternoon of 22 Dec 2010, Tabak searched Wikipedia for the words
‘Crown Prosecution Service’
‘Jo Yeates’
Then he Googled the word
‘manslaughter’
Then back to Wikipedia, Tabak searched the words
‘murder in English law’
At Line 292 of the prosecution chart
Tabak Googled the words
‘manslaughter sentencing’
Then he went to Wikipedia website to search the words
‘manslaughter in English law murder in English law’
Tabak left work at 5.06pm \on 22 Dec 2010

So why didn't he just check that on the 21st December 2010... when it says he googled "DOODSLAG" ?????????

You see... the only reason you would have to write the words "MURDER IN ENGLISH LAW"... OR "MANSLAUGHTER IN ENGLISH LAW"...

Was If He was in a DIFFERENT COUNTRY,..... IE .... HOLLAND!!!!!! Because it would not come up with the ANSWER ..

But if you were in ENGLAND at the Time you would only need to put : Law on Murder into Google!!

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=the%20law%20on%20murder


The SAME would apply to: The Law Manslaughter:

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=the+law+on+manslaughter

And if we want to simplify it.. you would just write the Word "Manslaughter"

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=manslaughter

Dr Vincent Tabak was still in England at the Time!!!!

And scroll down the definition's there ............
The same with "Murder..............

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=murder+



Anyone in Any Foreign Country Knows your In Deep Doo Doo..........

If He Had Murdered someone.......
He doesn't need to put the "ENGLISH LAW part in... ....
To do with his search....
Its the Word.. "ENGLISH" that is the Problem with the search.... It's not needed if he's searching on his laptop in England!!!!



The screenshots I have attached:

(1): Dutch word for Manslaughter

(2): Doodslag... which on the right hand side of the google search shows the English meaning for Manslaughter

Manslaughter is a legal term for homicide considered by law as less culpable than murder. The distinction between murder and manslaughter is sometimes said to have first been made by the Ancient Athenian lawmaker Draco in the 7th century B.C.E. Wikipedia

(3): Dutch wiki Doodslag.... which says; Manslaughter (Euthanasia) the intentional,but not premeditated,ending the life of another.

(4): Doodslag in the Dutch language... This is WHAT I want to Understand... Did the IT EXPERT Read the Dutch language and Translate it because she speaks DUTCH.. Or did she just put it into a Google or other Translator???

Because as I keep saying I do not Believe she speaks DUTCH!!!(IMO)

(5):The English Detector.. ..


As you can see.............. Manslaughter in England the definition is Legal term for Homicide...
But in Dutch.............. It's NOT A Legal term!!!!

Again... All of this evidence is complete Nonsense (IMO)

[[...]]

Remember Lyndsey Lennen and her Admissions....

"The body was frozen, so that was quite tricky." Under the media glare, the work was flat-out: clothing, swabs, suspect's clothing, all analysed and turned round in 48 hours.

Eventually, we found something," Lennen says. "On swabs and tapes from her breasts, and tapes from three areas of her jeans. There were DNA components that matched one of the suspects, Vincent Tabak." But there wasn't enough, of enough quality, to evaluate – perhaps because of the high salt levels where the body was found, following heavy snowfall.

Ms Lennen said the statistical interpretation of the results from Miss Yeates's jeans showed that it was 1,100 times more likely that the DNA was from Vincent Tabak and another person, rather than two unknown people unrelated to the defendant.

Ok lets look at those statements..........

The DNA was 1,000 times likely to be Dr Vincent Tabaks.....

But that means it also could be anyone elses....

There was DNA on her Breast Area and three area's of her Jeans..........



One thing that was not Clarified about these seperate Area's of DNA........ WAS.......
Were all of the DNA samples contributed to ONE person????

We are lead to believe that all of the DNA samples come from one person ... But is that ever established..????


I'll explain why.........

All of these sample could quite easily be more that one person....  And how random DNA could have been transferred onto Joanna Yeates.....

The court heard that traces of Tabak’s DNA was also found on the back of Miss Yeates’s jeans, behind the knees.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8820130/Vincent-Tabak-told-prison-chaplain-I-killed-Joanna-Yeates.html

DNA behind the knee area of her Jeans.....
It's transfer DNA.... It's suggested that it is transferred from Dr Vincent Tabak....

But I'd like to put forward another way in which a Transfer of DNA of anyone could have got behind the knee of Joanna Yeates Jeans...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxJwSkKu4IY


When we look at the CCTV of Joanna yeates in The Brisol Ram.. After she comes out of the ladies, she walks over to her friends whom are sat at a table.........There are a few people who appear to be sat on chairs But the table is a booth with TWO fixed bench type seats....

One of her friends stands up and she slides along to bench type seat to take her place back at the table....

She shuffles along.... this seat.... Her Jeans knees are touching the edge of the seat....

It is just as plausible that the DNA on the back of the knee of her Jeans, could have quite easily come from contact with the seat inside the Ram pub...

It is just as viable an answer as it apparently coming from Dr Vincent tabak... whom when in court his statement doesn't make sense!!!!

Defence Counsel: Your hand being on what part of her body?
Tabak: One arm was underneath her knees.

It's almost like he'e telling a story because he's admitted manslaughter... But he doesm't actually say where else he held her...
It is obvious he could not pick her up with one arm just under her knees......

When ever I read Dr Vincent Tabak's account in court it's like he covers all the bases... he says the things that just about cover the evidence.....

Like when he mentions putting her on the bed... so that covers the earring in the duvet part.....

Anyway back to the DNA.........

Defence Counsel: What did you do then?
Tabak: I put my hand around her neck. I panicked.

With this statement you would imagine that the DNA wouldtransfer......... his hands must have been sweaty......

He's in the throws of killing someone.. he would be sweating, he would not be able to control that...
Also skin cells show have left his hands and been transferred to Joanna Yeates neck.....



Lets concider the more sensitive area...... and once it is suggested that her chest area had been interferred with that brought the idea of sexual contact into play..............

How else would any transfer DNA end up in this area of Joanna Yeates?????

There are various explanations to that possibility........

Did Joanna Yeates have a new bra on?????

I say this because you can get DNA transfer in the maufacturing process.... people handling the material as they make the item, same would apply if it was a new top she was wearing...

But lets say, she didn't have any new items of clothing on.... How else would the possible transfer of foreign DNA possibly happen???

Well it could be as simple as her scratching her own skin... her hands have touched various object throught the day and in the pub....

Could be a case of her just re-adjusting herself.... Men re-adjust themself's in public all the time....
Woman not as much...

But bra's can become uncomfortable.. And from time to time woman will adjust them...
So that in itself could lead to a DNA Transfer....

As much as some woman won't admit... Just like men rearrange their Jewels... in turn, women do re arrange there breast in their bra's... So transfer on the breast area could be attributed to that possibility.

Remember this DNA sample is tiny....it's only 1000/1  it could be just about anyone!!!

Did the weight of the DNA evidence sway the Jury or was it the plea to Manslaughter that did it....

I feel his confession to manslaughter was false.... He really doesn't know anything in great detail....

But i feel the inferance that the DNA was his... along with the confession... helped support the jury's belief that it must have been Dr Vincent Tabak's..DNA... whether it was 1 billion to one or 1000/1...

The jury were not interested by that point that the DNA really belonged to Dr Vincent tabak.. their minds new he was guilty of something.... It was just a matter of what degree..... manslaughter or murder...

So bu him explaing away how the DNA ended up behind her knee..

Defence Counsel: Your hand being on what part of her body?
Tabak: One arm was underneath her knees.

Or that his DNA was on her breast........

Defence Counsel: Part of her breast was exposed- how did that happen?
Tabak: Perhaps when carrying her body.

or

Defence Counsel: Your DNA was found on the breast of the body- how did that come
about?
Tabak: I think as I was trying to put the body over the wall.

His defence is Telling the jury that his clients DNA is on Joanna Yeates body... when it truely has not been established that this sample of DNA really belonged to Dr Vincent Tabak..........


That statement by his defence bring to mind the words.... Throw and bus and under !!!!

Why did the defence NOT challenge this DNA evidence???? I do not understand why he did not!!!!!

1000/1 is an extremely low number.............. in DNA terms


This transfer could have also come off the little gate where people went through at the bottom of the garden... if she went into the main house of the door handle....

Literally a tiny transfer does not prove that the contributor was the perpetrator....

Realistically........ there should be DNA in Joanna Yeates flat if that is where she was killed or in Dr Vincent Tabak's Flat if that was where he was supposed to have taken her...........

So i will say again...... when and where was Joanna yeates killed... because I don't think it was in her flat.... especially as her mother insisted that she had been abducted!!!!


And again I do not believe that Dr Vincent Tabak killed her..

[jixy]

We couldn't say whether the DNA was from saliva, or semen, or even touch. But we could say that the probability of it not being a match with Tabak was less than one in a billion."

[[...]]

We couldn't say whether the DNA was from saliva, or semen, or even touch. But we could say that the probability of it not being a match with Tabak was less than one in a billion."

Jixy go back and read my posts:......

In court Lyndsey Lennen says  that it was 1 in 1000 .... not one in a billion!!!!!

[jixy]

It's her article I took that from along with others. Seems selective posting understanding and use of info going on.
While they may not be sure what the source was the guilty party is definite.

[[...]]

                                              Under The Bus..... (thrown).......... (IMO)


Lets just think about the Thrown under the bus..... What statements make me believe that he was thrown under the bus.....

His defence lawyer could not have been more helpful......

He left his flat; was walking towards his car and went past her kitchen window.
The kitchen blind was broken and so stayed up all the time, as Greg Reardon had
confirmed.

Now this is what the Prosecution should be confirming and NOT the defence.... why does he feel the need to clarify that the kitchen blind was broken???

He really doesn't need to mention the blind.. he could say he walked passed the kitchen window... But he has to clarify it was broken... And I believe that the blind needed to be broken....
Because....... he would not have been able to see into the kitchen window as he was too tall and those basement flats were not a regular height....

Defence expert Dr Carey will give evidence on Friday 21 December 2010 on this matter.
Prosecution pathologist expert witness, Dr Delaney, said on 18 October that it may well
have been 10 seconds.

10 seconds..... I cannot get my head around it being as little as 10 seconds... And when he's repeating what the prosecution have said... the jury probably believe that 10 seconds is far too short atime!!!

This does mean that one really hasn’t got a real clue as to when Tabak went into
Joanna’s flat except that it was between the time he went to Asda and the time he texted
his girlfriend, say, between 9.00 pm and 11.00 pm.

Now this Statement is clearly UNTRUE........... The defence contradict this statement several times.....

Here:

One thing is certain. Joanna Yeates was killed between 21.00 and 21.30 pm on Friday 17
December 2010. 

The he goes on to say that his client didn't leave his flat until:.......... 9:29pm

Defence Counsel: Can you look at item where you sent message to Tanja ‘missing you’
Can you remember if you sent it before you decided to go to Asda.
Recapping- you come off the Internet at 7.37pm (our entry 47) & remain in your flat until
9.29pm (our entry 88). 

So.... he does KNOW how long Dr Vincent Tabak was in his own Flat!!!! why would he then play to the prosecution and keep with the idea that Dr Vincent Tabak Killed Joanna Yeates????

Were you to conclude that the couple heard Joanna’s screams and not the scream that Mr
Sweet heard; if the Laymans and Sweet‘s evidence were to be dismissed, it would tie in
with the scientific evidence.

If the scream he at first tells the jury might not have been able to be heard by the people at the opposite side of the road and the times for these screams may not be at the relevant time....  As who established she defineatley died at that time as the charge is between 16th Dec 2010 and the 26th December 2010..

Those arriving at the party at Number 53 said they heard screams.
 It is for the jury to decide whether a scream from inside Flat 1 could be heard from
outside 53 Canynge Road.

So how does this tie in with the SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE????? The Scientific evidence does not establish her EXACT time of Death...

He's just saying to the jury .... this is a story .. this is how it fits together.......

Where is the so called Scientific Evidence that.....

(A): Show that Dr Vincent Tabak was actually in Joanna Yeates  flat

(B): That Joanna Yeates was in Dr Vincent Tabak's Flat

(C): And the exact time and day  of death of Joanna Yeates....

He is helping the Prosecution (IMO)

The reaction of all four people who heard screams was initially put down to students out
celebrating as term had finished that day.
You may think that the whole of those screams is totally unconnected.
You just couldn’t hear anybody from that distance.

 This does mean that one really hasn’t got a real clue as to when Tabak

So why didn't he question Dr Vincent Tabak's confession??? The screams could be anything....
But No... he goes on to further say:...............

This does mean that one really hasn’t got a real clue as to when Tabak went into
Joanna’s flat except that it was between the time he went to Asda and the time he texted
his girlfriend, say, between 9.00 pm and 11.00 pm.

He's disrespecting his own Client here...... He calls him TABAK!!!  He doesn't give him the respect of calling him Dr Vincent Tabak......

It's like he has contempt for his own client!!! (IMO)....

Not only that.... he manages to give a timeline of between 9:00pm and 11:00pm to actually kill Joanna Yeates ..

(or maybe not... i'll come back to that one)....

But if the Jury are taking notes... they will write down the defence say it happened between 9:00pm and 11:00pm

A very important piece of evidence is that what Tabak wrote in his statement is nearly the
same and corroborated the undisputed pathologist expert witnesses.But his conduct
afterwards was frankly disgusting.
 

I was always under the impression that Dr Vincent Tabak signed a typed statement and did not phsyically write it!!!!

Again... calls Dr Vincent Tabak by his last name.....

Undisputed!!! Yes no one really challenged anyone in this case... apart from the Prosecution challenging Dr Vincent Tabak......

Where's the bit where he should be creating doubt????????

This bit is interesting.................

But his conduct
afterwards was frankly disgusting.

Wow.......... And I'll say WOW again!!!!! He is driving the bus at this point ...(IMO)

He has no reason to tell the Jury his personal beliefs on what the behaviour was or wasn't......

Really by this point he should have to be saying he has expert witness's to prove it was manslaughter and that it was diminished responsibilites... But instead he bolsters the Prosecutions case by agreeing that his own client is....
DISGUSTING!!!!!!!

He caused anguish to her family.
His defence will not be heard to excuse this behaviour.

We are all well aware of the anguish of the poor Yeates Family... it goes without saying....

But he doesn't back that statement up with anything that would excuse his clients behaviour........

He clearly states!!!!!

His defence will not be heard to excuse this behaviour.

So his defence will not defend him?????????  Excuses????????

Did Dr Vincent Tabak ever have a psychological evaluation????

Where there ever any Doctors present to make any claims to Dr Vincent Tabak's mental health state before the crime or after and including his Incarceration?????

His defence don't like him obviously!!!!!

He was obviously concerned with the incident, trying to track everything.

Track everything..... Now the defence did NOT recieve the 1300 page document until the 7th October 2011.. And if they had recieved it a lot earlier they would have been able to show that the searches where NONSENSE....


So common sense should have told him that his Client didn't do the crime... But it's almost like he hasn't put the time into really finding out what happened !!!!

Did he NOT see that his client had not tracked everything... No mention of tracking CJ's Arrest!!!!!

It was only a matter of time before the police came to arrest him.
Again he told lie after lie and you will hear no excuse from me about that. It shows a very
calculating person trying to wriggle out of her death but it does not help in thinking of
what happened at the flat….

Where did he tell lie after lie????? where has this been established.....

Again.. we know that it was Dr Vincent Tabak's supplementary statement that lead the Police to fly to Holland.... who said that what him and Tanja had to say was a lie????

Again.... No excuses from me!!!

Are you actually defending your Client here or Giving the prosecution a leg up!!!!!

He Calls his own client "Calculating".......... I bet Dr Vincent Tabak is thinking......

"Well..... Gee's My Defence lawyer... Thank you so very kindly for the great Character Statement!!!"

And then, despite the awful secret that he was carrying, he tried to carry on as before:
going to parties, living with his girlfriend, etc, instead of going to the police.
There will be no excuse from me for that. He will be called to give evidence on Thursday
20 October
 

Doesn't that statement sound like it's a Prosecution STATEMENT!!!!!!!!!

Again.... No Excuse from me............. 

I don't know about a Bus...... at this point "TRAIN"... springs to mind ... and who is driving it!!!!


Honestly... what would any Jury member think if the Defences opening statement does not provide anything in the way of support for their own client!!!!!

Probably.... He's as Guilty as sin... even his defence is agreeing!!! (IMO)


You didn't need the Porn to be seem as Prejudcial to the case.... The Defence did a good job on there own (IMO)


I said I'd come back to this:....

This does mean that one really hasn’t got a real clue as to when Tabak went into
Joanna’s flat except that it was between the time he went to Asda and the time he texted
his girlfriend, say, between 9.00 pm and 11.00 pm.

Does this mean that he knew where his client was at 11:00pm and not in Joanna Yeates flat...  Maybe back home?????


Did the Defence know ... Dr Vincent Tabak's exact whereabouts at 11:00pm on the evening of 17th Dec 2010?????????




Quotes taken from Sally Ramage Papers.

[[...]]

It's her article I took that from along with others. Seems selective posting understanding and use of info going on.
While they may not be sure what the source was the guilty party is definite.

You can call anyones post selective.....

But I'll ask again............

Why is there a bottle of HEALEYS Cider And A TATTINGER REIMS CHAMPAGNE CORK in the Crime Scene?????????

They were never mentioned!!!!!!!!!!!!!