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« Reply #660 on: January 09, 2017, 11:00:39 PM »
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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #661 on: January 10, 2017, 12:27:16 AM »
Think the way forward is to point out the obvious!!!!



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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #662 on: January 10, 2017, 12:30:02 PM »
Good Heavens!

I go away for one afternoon, one evening, one night, one morning!!   And, four or five pages of posts to wade through!

OK, I have not yet "waded" in detail, but I can answer a couple of points:

Neither Nine nor I have any connection whatsoever with Drew Ashman and Amy-----but I'm sure Kayden and Paul know that really: they are winding us up!   Whether or not they have any connection with Drew Ashman and Amy, I haven't a clue, but I doubt it somehow.

Sally Ramage is a qualified lawyer (who, I believe, currently  edits a legal journal rather than practises as a lawyer).  She was in court for Vincent Tabak's trial.  In fact, if you read her account of it, it's obvious that she was there, but I have been told that independently.

I believe Vincent Tabak was offered the services of an interpreter, but said he didn't need one.  Of course, this does not necessarily mean that he didn't need one:  he might have underestimated how complicated legal jargon is!

The fact that Tanja's father did not step in and provide assistance to Vincent does not necessarily mean that he believes him to be guilty (although it might: I couldn't possibly know!).  I asked my husband (a retired lawyer) if he would have done so if our daughter's boyfriend (whom we know and like very much) was charged with murder. He said that he would not get involved, because it would be our daughter's business, not his. (The hubby's a nice bloke, by the way)!

With due respect to Paul, I cannot, for the life of me, see how VT could have cleaned up all the forensic evidence in both flats between committing a murder, dumping the body, and collecting his girlfriend.



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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #664 on: January 10, 2017, 08:07:03 PM »


I keep find odd things.... this Article has photo's from the Crime Scene....

Which has thrown up more Questions:....

What is the Drink doing at the side of her bed????

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2048247/Vincent-Tabak-trial-1st-prosecution-witness-Jo-Yeates-murder-case-court.html

Does it suggest she was actually there on the Friday???  I don't know

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #665 on: January 10, 2017, 09:53:13 PM »
I've got a real conundrum:.........

After Paul Pointed out about what else was in the flat... I decided to look at the pictures of the inside of the Crime scene:....

I'm more confused now than i have ever been... I'll start with a simple one and you might be able to explain it away..

Spot the difference....  No it's not a game ... this is extremely serious....


Did you see it???????













Why have the clocks got different times????

One says 1 min past Eleven and One say 1 Minute to Eleven...

Why????  Ok you may say the battery is working... but then explain my next post!!!!!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/inside-the-flat-where-christmas-never-came-1084114

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2048247/Vincent-Tabak-trial-1st-prosecution-witness-Jo-Yeates-murder-case-court.html

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« Reply #666 on: January 10, 2017, 10:01:36 PM »
Here it is again.... different part of the house but Just as Interesting... Remember these are Crime scene photo's...

How can they be different????

Whats the difference???????????



Also something is in the corner on the top shelf in one photo and not in the other!!!!!

Article dated 13th Oct 2011
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/flat-preserved-time-capsule-joanna-s-death/story-13542524-detail/story.html#4

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/flat-preserved-time-capsule-joanna-s-death/story-13542524-detail/story.html#5


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2064116/Joanna-Yeates-mother-finally-clears-murdered-architects-belongings-flat.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2048247/Vincent-Tabak-trial-1st-prosecution-witness-Jo-Yeates-murder-case-court.html

The Trainers in the First photo are in Opposite directions......!!!!!!!!!

The Trainers in the second photo are facing in the same direction!!!!!


Why haven't these newspapers noticed the difference???????

These are definetly from the Crime Scene.... You can tell because the carpets been removed....!!!




Nobody should have touched it,... these are from after the Jury went in....

Someone Please explain!!!!!!!!!


How can Crime Scene Photo's be so Different!!!!!!!!


Thought it was supposed to be a time capsule??

One looks like there's a blue shoe there.... might be wrong... but what I can see I'm not wrong!!!!





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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #667 on: January 10, 2017, 10:45:17 PM »
Intersting Article : http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/172046/Joanna-Yeates-cops-We-ll-only-DNA-test-Jo-s-boy-pals

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Joanna Yeates cops: We'll only DNA test Jo's boy pals
DETECTIVES have ruled out mass DNA testing on the men in the city where Joanna Yeates was strangled.

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Published 15th January 2011
Joanna Yeates: Police are convinced Jo knew her killer Joanna Yeates: Police are convinced Jo knew her killer
They fear the cost and time it would take could slow down their hunt for the killer.

They plan to test only people known to the 25-year-old landscape architect, including many of Jo’s 200 Facebook friends.


One of her pals who lives 100 miles away has already had a cheek swab.


Detectives believe they could have the killer’s DNA in a sample of saliva discovered on Jo’s body, which was found dumped at the roadside three miles from her home in Bristol on Christmas Day. But it does not match anyone on the national DNA database.


Kerry McCarthy, Labour MP for Bristol East, and Jo’s best pal Rebecca Scott, 25, who was the last person to speak to her, have called for everyone in the city to be tested.

Police are convinced Jo knew her killer who struck after she returned home from the pub after drinking with colleagues on December 17.


Police confirmed tests were not being carried out on her work colleagues unless they also knew her via Facebook or had swapped emails and texts outside the office.


Neighbours living near the basement flat Jo had rented with architect boyfriend Greg Reardon, 27, have not yet been asked for DNA samples either.


One said: “It’s mad. We would welcome the tests. We’ve nothing to hide.”


A police source said: “A DNA trawl is not seen as necessary at this stage.”

FORCE FACES REVIEW

THE Jo Yeates murder investigation could be overhauled amid fears clues have been missed.

The manhunt involving 80 officers has run up a £1million bill and a senior officer from within or outside Avon and Somerset Police could be called in to gauge progress.

A force spokesman said yesterday: “National guidance suggests a review should take place somewhere between 28 and 42 days.”

The force’s Chief Superintendent Jon Stratford said officers needed more time as Jo’s was “a most unusual case”.
jerry.lawton@dailystar.co.uk


So how did they Arrest Dr Vincent Tabak 5 days Later?????????

It also says neighbours have not been tested???????

Why wouldn't they want to test her male collegues????


Why is a DNA Trawl not necessary ?????

They plan to test only people know to Jo ???  so work collegues don't count...

This report is extremely strange....

Anyone any ideas????????

And the sample is apparently saliva????


EDIT:......  If they have checked a swab of a pal already who lives 100 miles away, by this time they obviously have turned around the DNA sample of Joanna Yeates...

So if we go back to the Holland sample Dr Vincent Tabak Gave.... then he should have come back by now as the Killer!!!


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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #668 on: January 11, 2017, 11:24:05 AM »
That report is odd----but then, newspaper reports are not always accurate.

Chris Jefferies has said that all the neighbours had given DNA samples early on. He is shown giving an interview saying that-----might have been on the Judge Rinder programme, cant remember off hand.

There is no firm evidence that Joanna went missing on the 17th. Even the court accepted that, as VT was charged with killing her between the 16th and 19th December. Nobody apart from the killer knew that Jo was missing until Greg raised the alarm late on the 19th/early on the 20th.

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« Reply #669 on: January 11, 2017, 11:35:42 AM »
That report is odd----but then, newspaper reports are not always accurate.

Chris Jefferies has said that all the neighbours had given DNA samples early on. He is shown giving an interview saying that-----might have been on the Judge Rinder programme, cant remember off hand.

There is no firm evidence that Joanna went missing on the 17th. Even the court accepted that, as VT was charged with killing her between the 16th and 19th December. Nobody apart from the killer knew that Jo was missing until Greg raised the alarm late on the 19th/early on the 20th.

Yes I believe is was the 20th December 2010.. in the early hours that Greg raised the alarm....


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« Reply #670 on: January 11, 2017, 01:15:50 PM »
Again.... two more photo's   


The White basket next to the  bedside cabinet and in the doorway of the bedroom there appears to be a BOOT!!!!
Think the Boot might be attached to someone stood there looking again!!!


The walls look like they've been washed down..... theres remainders of black on the skirting boards ...



Another thing i find weird about these Pictures... Is they are not really crime scene photo's... because if they were they would look like it did when she went missing... Not a staged simulation of what we are supposed to think the flat should look like....

Normally I would imagine them to cut relevant pieces of carpet out... and not remove all of the carpeting from the house..


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« Reply #671 on: January 11, 2017, 01:48:01 PM »
This photo is strange too..... what is the phone shaped mark out in white behind the settee???

There No carpet there.... So what is it supposed to be??????

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #672 on: January 11, 2017, 03:30:40 PM »
Another thing that I don't understand is why they would need breathing Appartus when examining Joanna Yeates Flat???

Did they spray something around the whole place....????

What chemicals did they need to use??????

https://www.scottsafety.com/en/anzp/DocumentandMedia1/FLITE%20Escape%20Datasheet%20ANZ.pdf

https://www.scottsafety.com/en/anzp/pages/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductDetail=Scott%20Safety%20Flite%20Airline%20Breathing%20Apparatus

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #673 on: January 11, 2017, 03:48:35 PM »
They are obviously using chemicals:  it says so. Presumably they are the sort of chemicals that are dangerous to breathe in. 

However, I don't know much about forensic investigations, so dont know what they use.

The forensic team obviously did a thorough job, which is why I believe they would have found good evidence of VT having been in there, if he had been.

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #674 on: January 11, 2017, 03:52:54 PM »
Also, it is possible that the forensic team wear sterile suits so as not to contaminate the evidence---but I don't know!

Is there anybody here who knows about forensics?