Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates

[jixy]

I have just been reading up about Tabaks girlfriend visit and what has been noted as a ban to put pressure on him and torment him further

She was actually waiting for clearance to visit which can take a while for anyone not just for him

I have had the same clearance for a different high security prison and it isnt instant even for immediate family members

His Brother and Girlfriend said he was innocent, they visited and then they disappeared, gave up the fight forgetting about him and moving on

They knew him and they believed his confession
 

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Other people have suggested this, but is there any evidence that he was socially inept?  It might be that he wanted to finish his studies and settle in a steady job before finding a partner. He appears to have had a circle of friends and a pretty busy social life.

A circle of friends is one thing, but having the ability to converse well with the opposite sex is quite a different thing all together...

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I have just been reading up about Tabaks girlfriend visit and what has been noted as a ban to put pressure on him and torment him further

She was actually waiting for clearance to visit which can take a while for anyone not just for him

I have had the same clearance for a different high security prison and it isnt instant even for immediate family members

His Brother and Girlfriend said he was innocent, they visited and then they disappeared, gave up the fight forgetting about him and moving on

They knew him and they believed his confession

WHAT ...... 23 days clearance!!!!!

I have just been reading up about Tabaks girlfriend visit and what has been noted as a ban to put pressure on him and torment him further

I wish you would give me a link please.....

I don't think they believed what you call a confession... he didn't confess to anyone.... Especially "Brotherton"..

They made everything as difficult as possible for him... isolating him, he didn't get his first visit till after his birthday which I believe is the 10th... all psychological to have an impact on his psycological well being...

His family believed he was innocent always....

Who says they disappeared.... "The Media"????

Maybe they were not allowed to see him... anything to do with Dr Vincent Tabak is NOT straight forward....

[jixy]

That is quick actually... it took me about six weeks. I have asked my friend how long her clearance took as she was the partner of the man concerned unlike me. Will get back to you

[mrswah]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3169359/How-spot-serial-killer-Criminologists-reveal-five-key-traits-common-notorious-murderers.html .....

Placid people can become Killers .... so they wanted to stitch him up he went along with it gave a good story but never complained and couldn't tell anyone cos its too big a burden to bear for him .... Oh Please

I read the article in the Mail----I would hardly describe Fred West as an "average Joe" , would you? 

The article was actually about serial killers:  if VT were one, we would know about it by now.

VT didn't give a good story---it was pathetic!

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That is quick actually... it took me about six weeks. I have asked my friend how long her clearance took as she was the partner of the man concerned unlike me. Will get back to you

But you were not related!!!!  And I'm sure the visiting system is different for remand prisoners.....

[mrswah]

I have just been reading up about Tabaks girlfriend visit and what has been noted as a ban to put pressure on him and torment him further

She was actually waiting for clearance to visit which can take a while for anyone not just for him

I have had the same clearance for a different high security prison and it isnt instant even for immediate family members

His Brother and Girlfriend said he was innocent, they visited and then they disappeared, gave up the fight forgetting about him and moving on

They knew him and they believed his confession

Is this the same for prisoners on remand, Jixy?  I was under the impression that they were allowed three visits per week.

We don't actually know that VT's family  has disappeared, and no longer visits him. We don't know that they believe he murdered Jo, either.

[jixy]

Their comments in the media give a very good impression that they believe just that...he is guilty.

My point was they arent fighting his corner they arent screaming about his mistreatment are they? Nor are they demanding that a miscarriage of justice has taken place!

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I have just been reading up about Tabaks girlfriend visit and what has been noted as a ban to put pressure on him and torment him further

So if you know they put a ban on him to pressure him even further and not let him see his girlfriend so they could torment him.... why are we going back and forth with the treatment he received in prison?????

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Their comments in the media give a very good impression that they believe just that...he is guilty.

My point was they arent fighting his corner they arent screaming about his mistreatment are they? Nor are they demanding that a miscarriage of justice has taken place!

You don't know what other pressure may have been brought to bare!!!!!!!

[jixy]

Oh my god! I never said that. its one of the ponts you keep arguing to back up the theory that he is innocent

The wheels of HMP take time especially when a murder has taken place!

My friend just replied and hers was the same kind of timescale and he was on remand and never admitted his guilt to this day but they still had to get through the red tape

[jixy]

it can take two weeks or more just to get telephone numbers added never mind anything else and that is for a 'normal' crime!

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Oh my god! I never said that. its one of the ponts you keep arguing to back up the theory that he is innocent

The wheels of HMP take time especially when a murder has taken place!

My friend just replied and hers was the same kind of timescale and he was on remand and never admitted his guilt to this day but they still had to get through the red tape

Oh My God.... you did say that Jixy...... Oh yes ...oh Yes .....  oh yes.....

I have just been reading up about Tabaks girlfriend visit and what has been noted as a ban t

Now that didn't come from my mouth... You're the one reading up on it....
Oh My God.... Yes ....Yes... ..yes.....

My question is where was it noted????? because I never knew that info!!!!

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it can take two weeks or more just to get telephone numbers added never mind anything else and that is for a 'normal' crime!

As an unconvicted prisoner, you should get help and support to

• ask for bail
• keep your home and job
• get ready for your trial
• keep in touch with family and friends
• carry on being involved with or running a business, as long as it is legal
• get help with any problems you may have.

http://www.prisonreformtrust.org.uk/Portals/0/Documents/PIB%20extract%20-%20Unconvicted%20prisoners.pdf

Well we know that didn't happen!!!

You usually have to fill in a form called a Visiting Order before someone can visit you
in prison (unless you are an unconvicted or civil prisoner)

 Visits happen in a hall in the prison. Prison staff will tell you which part of the hall to sit
in.

The governor of each prison decides the times and days that visits can happen. Visits
cannot normally happen on public holidays (such as Christmas and Easter).

 Prison staff may have to decide if children can visit you or not. This depends on things
like the offence you have committed and your behaviour while in prison. Prison staff will
tell you if this happens.

Then.....

Your family will usually have to phone the prison to arrange a time to see you. You do
not have to fill in a Visiting Order form.

You are usually allowed 3 visits a week. These visits will be for 1 hour each time.
1 of the visits can be at the weekend.
 

So there should have been NO issue with visiting... other than the obsticals they put in his way!!!!!!


Or something being....... NOTED!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.prisonreformtrust.org.uk/Portals/0/Documents/PIB%20extract%20-%20Keeping%20in%20touch%20wiht%20family%20and%20friends.pdf

[jixy]

give your head a shake. I said what has been NOTED as a ban not that I said it was a ban. On here you have said numerous times that his family have been kept from it and mentioned the torment of that and the clothes he had to wear etc etc . Noted as a ban in no way indicates that I believe there was a ban or would ever agree with you that such a ban was put in place to wreck his head and make him admit to murder just to make it all stop

Noted as  a ban.... get it? not Jixy says they did it to make him confess. Totally different and half the reason we are now on page 73 still going round and round in circles

Seeing things that arent there ignoring vital things like DNA Blood in car confession that wasnt made under any kind of duress.

Good idea to read what I wrote not what you think i did or want me to say. Noted.... that isnt said by me!