Let's have a close look at what Matt says.

[jassi]

I'm sure if he did peek and he didn't see her at all he would have raised the alarm.  Agreed?  If you agree that is what a decent friend would do we'll look at the options if he sees her there?

Well, if he did see her, but declined to admit it, for whatever reason,  then it completely destroys the significance of the Tanner sighting, which was 15 minutes earlier.

[Robittybob1]

Well, if he did see her, but declined to admit it, for whatever reason,  then it completely destroys the significance of the Tanner sighting, which was 15 minutes earlier.

it might on the surface of it.  But nothing is straightforward, but what you say is a vital consideration.

[Robittybob1]

So you are introducing a scenario where matt couldnt find madeleine but told her parents all was well, dont buy it

I'd shoot Matt myself if he did that. 

[mercury]

I'd shoot Matt myself if he did that.

Why suggest it in the first place?

[Alice Purjorick]

But what windows were open to allow for that.  Unless you are implying it happens when they open the sliding door?

I am not implying anything.
Air moves as the result of changes in temperature and pressure. It will always move from high pressure areas to low pressure areas. It can also move by being sucked in and blown out by a kin great blower.
If the reasons for air movement that have obtained since God was a lad don't fit your theory ............. &%+((£

[Robittybob1]

I am not implying anything.
Air moves as the result of changes in temperature and pressure. It will always move from high pressure areas to low pressure areas. It can also move by being sucked in and blown out by a kin great blower.
If the reasons for air movement that have obtained since God was a lad don't fit your theory ............. &%+((£

Sorry what a strange and off track answer.  We are discussing air movements within the apartment moving doors that are up to half open.  It doesn't happen without the external doors and windows open everywhere.

[Robittybob1]

Why suggest it in the first place?

I don't think I did.  I said: "I'm sure if he did peek and he didn't see her at all he would have raised the alarm."

[Alice Purjorick]

Sorry what a strange and off track answer.  We are discussing air movements within the apartment moving doors that are up to half open.  It doesn't happen without the external doors and windows open everywhere.

That statement is incorrect.

[Robittybob1]

That statement is incorrect.

Of course you are going to get some air movement but nothing large enough to blow a door open.

[Robittybob1]

@ Mercury - I said: "I'm sure if he did peek and he didn't see her at all he would have raised the alarm."  You have not attempted a reply to this yet.

[sadie]

There is one window opening but two glass panels, one fixed and one sliding. 

This was touched on yesterday, the reason the door slammed with Kate but not with Matt was because when Matt entered the apartment the bedroom window was not open.  This supports the idea that Madeleine disappeared after Matt's 9.30 check.

I am not sure about that Angelo.  Somewhere I read that it was a gusty night and that the winds were getting up, so conditions earlier on would have been different to the time that Kate looked into the apartment.

I am sorry, but I have no idea now where I read this.

[Robittybob1]

I am not sure about that Angelo.  Somewhere I read that it was a gusty night and that the winds were getting up, so conditions earlier on would have been different to the time that Kate looked into the apartment.

I am sorry, but I have no idea now where I read this.

I have experienced the slamming door effect Kate is talking about.  It doesn't require a strong air flow.  In fact when the door is open it won't slam shut but the air has to be able to go somewhere so not only would the window in the kid's bedroom be open but there would have to something else open as well.  The air has to be able to go through the building.  Was there any other window open?  If not I'd say she did her check with the sliding door open too implying she was intending to go back to the Tapas Bar.

[ShiningInLuz]

I have experienced the slamming door effect Kate is talking about.  It doesn't require a strong air flow.  In fact when the door is open it won't slam shut but the air has to be able to go somewhere so not only would the window in the kid's bedroom be open but there would have to something else open as well.  The air has to be able to go through the building.  Was there any other window open?  If not I'd say she did her check with the sliding door open too implying she was intending to go back to the Tapas Bar.

Her book says she checked the patio door and it was closed.

[Robittybob1]

Her book says she checked the patio door and it was closed.

She does too (page #93), but gets the physics a bit wrong. For she seems to suggest the breeze came in through the patio door. Whereas (if I understand the layout correctly the door closed toward her so the breeze was going in the window and out somewhere else and at quite a rate for the curtain flapped as well on reopening the door.  If the patio door was closed as she says, it still has not explained how the air flowed through the building.  Matt in one of his statements talks about the shutters of the main bedroom being raised but no one has ever mentioned that.  Were the windows of both bedrooms opened? 

At around 9.25pm, the interviewee went into his apartment and Madeleine's apartment to check on the children. He states that the door of the bedroom that was occupied by Madeleine and the twins, was open and that there was enough light in the bedroom for him to see the twins in their cots. That he couldn't see the bed occupied by Madeleine, but as it was all quiet, he deduced that she was sleeping. That the light was not from an artificial source inside the apartment, but perhaps something coming from outside through the bedroom window. That it seemed to him that the shutters of the Master' bedroom window were open without knowing if the window was also open.

In the rogatory statement he says

4078 'I am sorry, you already said how long you think you were in the apartment for, I have forgotten''
Reply 'It can't have been more than a couple of minutes, because, erm, I mean, there was no, you know, it was just sort of a check and then it was back really. I remember sort of being able to pivot here and be able to see this room door was open as well and those shutters weren't down, they were just curtains and that was fairly, fairly light as well. And I just sort of came back out really through the same way and shutting the patio doors'.

Nothing about the shutters in the 10th May statement. 

It is odd that no one else mentions that the shutters to Gerry and Kates room were up.

There is nothing about checking the window in the main bedroom in the book.  The other factor could be central airconditioning ducts may have allowed air to be drawn up and out.

[Robittybob1]

Mercury
 on September 23, 2016, 09:35:00 PM

Quite but i still dint get his odd statement and that of his wife

You don't understand it Mercury?  Well we'd need to go through it and pull it apart then.