Author Topic: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.  (Read 249957 times)

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Offline G-Unit

Other than via drink bottles with nipples.  Children will suckle nipples even while asleep.
Chloroform via a cloth could have been given to Madeleine.

So you think someone (in a dark room) found the twin's drink bottles and filled them with a sedating solution, hoping they would not wake and they would drink it? They then held a cloth soaked in chloroform over Madeleine's face for five minutes to knock her out? They were cool customers to hang around doing all that.
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Offline slartibartfast

the online fora and discussion groups were one of the main sources for the speculation as described in the article.  It was certainly being discussed most feverishly back then but I'm still mot sure how you would expect anyone to quantify the level of interest.

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Offline Alice Purjorick

What state of unconsciousness? Some people think they'd had a busy day and were sleeping naturally. Their mother said it was unnatural, but has never offered an opinion as to how a sedative could have been administered.

Are there not only three methods?
Intravenously
Injection
Orally

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Alfie

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What state of unconsciousness? Some people think they'd had a busy day and were sleeping naturally. Their mother said it was unnatural, but has never offered an opinion as to how a sedative could have been administered.
Why would she have to do that?

Offline Robittybob1

What state of unconsciousness? Some people think they'd had a busy day and were sleeping naturally. Their mother said it was unnatural, but has never offered an opinion as to how a sedative could have been administered.
Does Kate have to have it all figured out?
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Why would anyone who had overdosed their kids to make them sleep deliberately draw attention to it - can anyone venture an explanation?
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Offline slartibartfast

eWhy would anyone who had overdosed their kids to make them sleep deliberately draw attention to it - can anyone venture an explanation?

There is very little evidence of any real drawing of attention.
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Offline Robittybob1

Why would anyone who had overdosed their kids to make them sleep deliberately draw attention to it - can anyone venture an explanation?
The investigation makes the claim she only alerts to it at a time (in July) she knows that the drugs can't be detected any longer.  But we proved the McCanns made noises about it much earlier than this (on the 5th of May 2007), but it appears the investigation into drug use was something of the order of just looking for syringes or empty pill bottles at the scene of the crime.  No blood tests on the twins was carried out for without a clue as to what drug was used the testing they would have had to cover hundreds of potential substances.
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Offline faithlilly

Why would anyone who had overdosed their kids to make them sleep deliberately draw attention to it - can anyone venture an explanation?

If they had overdosed their children wouldn't it be handy to know what the police knew? Further perhaps they thought if they brought it up themselves the police would be less likely to suspect them of doing it ( coincidently the very argument you are using).
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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There is very little evidence of any real drawing of attention.
There are at least two.  One was on the 5th May when the McCanns asked if there was any evidence Madeleine had been sedated.  If this is not drawing attention to the possibility that they may have sedated their own kids I don't know what is.

Offline Robittybob1

If the had overdosed their children wouldn't it be handy to know what the police knew? Further perhaps they thought if they brought it up themselves the police would be less likely to suspect them of doing it ( coincidently the very argument you are using).
One of those "can't win either way" arguments.
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If the had overdosed their children wouldn't it be handy to know what the police knew? Further perhaps they thought if they brought it up themselves the police would be less likely to suspect them of doing it ( coincidently the very argument you are using).
How would knowing what the police know re: sedation confer any advantage?   So are you telling me now that had they NOT brought up the concerns re: sedation that would have made them seem LESS suspicious in your view?  *&*%£

Offline sadie

So you think someone (in a dark room) found the twin's drink bottles and filled them with a sedating solution, hoping they would not wake and they would drink it? They then held a cloth soaked in chloroform over Madeleine's face for five minutes to knock her out? They were cool customers to hang around doing all that.
And that is one of the main reasons why the window was open IMO

To shine some light in and to pass the chloroform pad in.  Chloroform has a horrid smell from memory when I was given it, but IIRC the smell soon dissipates

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And that is one of the main reasons why the window was open IMO

To shine some light in and to pass the chloroform pad in.  Chloroform has a horrid smell from memory when I was given it, but IIRC the smell soon dissipates

Not a clue.

Offline faithlilly

How would knowing what the police know re: sedation confer any advantage?   So are you telling me now that had they NOT brought up the concerns re: sedation that would have made them seem LESS suspicious in your view?  *&*%£

No that is what you said. Bringing up the subject is not something, according to you, a guilty person does. So if they did it would make them look less guilty. A double bluff as it were.

It would certainly have left them with less insight into the police's thinking if they hadn't asked for confirmation re: sedation.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?