Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[faithlilly]

Because she is a human being with children of her own, a doctor who has taken an oath to dedicate her life to saving lives, because she has a tongue in her head, because if she really thought the kids were in danger it would be the morally correct thing to do?

But she didn't think they were in danger because Kate had checked them and she didn't seem concerned.

[Lace]

Why would Fiona second guess their own mother ? Kate was a qualified anaesthetist too.

Kate was in no fit state to be thinking rationally,  Fiona was assuring her the twins were fine.   How do you know they didn't roll over [not something someone unconscious would do]   how do you know Fiona didn't lift them up and they snuggled down onto her shoulder [not something someone unconscious would do]   You don't know.

[Alfie]

Heads-up Faithlilly, I'm about to make another "hogwash" post for you to ridicule:
How many parents really know how their young children would behave in a scenario such as that which the twins found themselves in on the night of 3rd May?  The circumstances were extraordinary and I would guess that the McCanns had never before been in the position of barging into their sleeping children's bedroom, switching on the light and making a lot of noise.  Most parents would probably imagine or believe that their kids would wake up in such a scenario but that doesn't mean they actually would. 

[Alfie]

But she didn't think they were in danger because Kate had checked them and she didn't seem concerned.

Cite for Kate not seeming concerned please.

[faithlilly]

Heads-up Faithlilly, I'm about to make another "hogwash" post for you to ridicule:
How many parents really know how their young children would behave in a scenario such as that which the twins found themselves in on the night of 3rd May?  The circumstances were extraordinary and I would guess that the McCanns had never before been in the position of barging into their sleeping children's bedroom, switching on the light and making a lot of noise.  Most parents would probably imagine or believe that their kids would wake up in such a scenario but that doesn't mean they actually would.

Kate thought her children had been sedated yet did nothing. No matter how long and rambling your posts there really is no getting away from that.

[G-Unit]

By the time of the rogatories the 'story' that the children might have been drugged was definitely in the public domain, hence the questioning.

That part is straight-forward.

Why no one mentioned this is an earlier statement is more difficult to explain.

There was a question included in the rog. interviews;

Did you enter the McCann's apartment ? Did you enter the bedroom the children were sleeping in ? Can you describe what you saw ? Did you see the twins ? Did you notice anything strange about them ?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RESPONSE-ROGATORY.htm

It was the McCanns who wanted that question asked, not the PJ as far as I can see.

[faithlilly]

Kate was in no fit state to be thinking rationally,  Fiona was assuring her the twins were fine.   How do you know they didn't roll over [not something someone unconscious would do]   how do you know Fiona didn't lift them up and they snuggled down onto her shoulder [not something someone unconscious would do]   You don't know.

Whether Kate was thinking rationally is not the point. Kate says she thought her twins may have been sedated and raised her concerns with the police officers present. There is no evidence of this in any of the statements of those present so, rationally, we can only conclude that it didn't happen.

[Alfie]

Whether Kate was thinking rationally is not the point. Kate says she thought her twins may have been sedated and raised her concerns with the police officers present. There is no evidence of this in any of the statements of those present so, rationally, we can only conclude that it didn't happen.

So is what you're saying - Kate did not think her children had been sedated at the time, but only pretended to think this later?

[faithlilly]

So is what you're saying - Kate did not think her children had been sedated at the time, but only pretended to think this later?

No that's not what I've said. I've made my opinion perfectly clear in previous posts.

Alfie can I ask why you constantly seem to be encouraging members to commit libel? Are you desperately trying to have the thread closed?

[Alfie]

But she didn't think they were in danger because Kate had checked them and she didn't seem concerned.

If Fiona Payne thought Kate didn't seem concerned why did she say in her Rogatory
"she was very much concerned in checking that they were okay"?  Fiona Payne thought the twins behavioour at the time was "weird" and she thought Kate was "very concerned" but you think she should simply have kept her counsel do you?

[faithlilly]

If Fiona Payne thought Kate didn't seem concerned why did she say in her Rogatory
"she was very much concerned in checking that they were okay"?  Fiona Payne thought the twins behavioour at the time was "weird" and she thought Kate was "very concerned" but you think she should simply have kept her counsel do you?

What I think is neither here nor there and neither are Fiona's actions. Kate thought the twins had been sedated yet there is no evidence that she told anyone. It is Kate's actions we are discussing not Fiona's. if you want to question Fiona's actions can I suggest you open another thread.

[ShiningInLuz]

I've raised this point before
Kate questioned for around 19 hrs and her statements can be read in a couple of minutes
Just how much the PJ decided to leave out we don't know

I note it has now gone up from 15 hours to 19 hours.  Make up your mind.

[faithlilly]

It is perfectly clear from reading the files that there is no evidence that Kate alerted anyone in an official capacity to her concerns that her children had been sedated. That is not libel, that is simply a fact. What people chose to extrapolate from that is their concern.

[ShiningInLuz]

What I have always found strange is how perfunctory all the Portuguese statements are generally.  Given that everyone was questioned for hours it begs the question just what was not recorded in the statements.

Hardly.

Sedation was not in the statements.

So unless you are on a massive conspiracy bender, sedation was not discussed.

[ShiningInLuz]

There was a question included in the rog. interviews;

Did you enter the McCann's apartment ? Did you enter the bedroom the children were sleeping in ? Can you describe what you saw ? Did you see the twins ? Did you notice anything strange about them ?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RESPONSE-ROGATORY.htm

It was the McCanns who wanted that question asked, not the PJ as far as I can see.

I accept that by the time of the rogs sedation was definitely an item on the menu, 'cos it arose much earlier.  What I don't know is when it first reared its head.

In the May 2007 T9 interviews it was a non-issue.  So what was the origin?