Author Topic: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.  (Read 249000 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1170 on: January 09, 2017, 05:54:54 PM »
Please refrain from this line of posting.
You are asking a member to reveal his identity.

You have made claims on the forum regarding your professional status.  Unless you are willing to provide proof, please do not badger a fellow member to do so. 

It is up to the reader to decide if members have the expertise claimed.

No, I am not.

I am asking him to provide cites as per forum rules.

How many times have you said that to me or other posters ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1171 on: January 09, 2017, 05:55:03 PM »
CITES are required as Brietta repeatedly points out.

Now, I have provided the actual instructions and recommendations from authorized sites.

From NICE again, 'The National Institute for Health and Care Excellence'.

https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/CG112/chapter/1-Guidance#clinical-environment-and-monitoring
And a sil repeatedly points out do your own donkey work
Ive explained how over the top these things are
There are many people taking oral diazepam at home
However if I give someone oral diazepam I have to monitor them with BP and pulse oximetry
Totally unnecessary but that's what the guidelines say

Interestingly diazepam is one sedative which can resedate due to hepatic recirculation
Google it
I don't have to

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1172 on: January 09, 2017, 05:58:14 PM »
40 yrs experience in sedation
I have explained that posters can take my word or not
I am obviously not prepared to reveal my true name there are simply too many nutters about
I have revealed my true name to one of the mods who can access my website if they wish

Your claim the non Portuguese speakers being asked to read statements in Portuguese is totally untrue
You seem more than a little confused
The posts are all ther so find one if you can
You will not be able
Try sticking to the truth

If you are going to criticise Kate you should be accurate
You are not

still no cite from you
Let me see.  A claim re expertise again.  I have no interest whatsoever in this alleged website nor in your personal details.  The issue is what this 40 years covers, in general terms.  But you are being unresponsive.

I didn't claim non-Portuguese speakers were asked to read statements in Portuguese.  You did.  Have you already forgotten 'Reads, Ratifies, Signs'?  Or are you being unresponsive?

If you are going to try to criticise me, you should try to be accurate.  Drugged.  Anaesthetised.  Sedated.  Plus nothing in the files until much later.  That's called being unresponsive.

And just as before, you are still not willing to check the files.  That can also be called unresponsive.

I have no doubt forum posters and guests can find the report and make up their own minds. 

As to your mystery mod in the know who can confirm you claims, at the moment it is All Quiet On The Moderator Front.
What's up, old man?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1173 on: January 09, 2017, 05:58:38 PM »
Quote from: davel link=topic=7852.msg3[b
74508#msg374508 date=1483984071]
I've already said administering sedation
I'm giving my opinion based on that
If posters don't believe me that's fine
It's of no importance



OK so tell us precisely what your duties were in administering sedation including a description of the equipment, gases and chemicals used. It should be easy enough for an experienced man to rattle that lot off from memory in short time .
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfie

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Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1174 on: January 09, 2017, 05:59:40 PM »
Personally I think the phrase "cite please" should be banned from this forum, it's been well overused by some posters and is just as a way to kill discussion.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1175 on: January 09, 2017, 06:02:47 PM »
Let me see.  A claim re expertise again.  I have no interest whatsoever in this alleged website nor in your personal details.  The issue is what this 40 years covers, in general terms.  But you are being unresponsive.

I didn't claim non-Portuguese speakers were asked to read statements in Portuguese.  You did.  Have you already forgotten 'Reads, Ratifies, Signs'?  Or are you being unresponsive?

If you are going to try to criticise me, you should try to be accurate.  Drugged.  Anaesthetised.  Sedated.  Plus nothing in the files until much later.  That's called being unresponsive.

And just as before, you are still not willing to check the files.  That can also be called unresponsive.

I have no doubt forum posters and guests can find the report and make up their own minds. 

As to your mystery mod in the know who can confirm you claims, at the moment it is All Quiet On The Moderator Front.

You are wrong again and should stop telling lies about me
Now provide a cite or behave and remove
I have never claimed anyone was asked to read a statement in Portuguese
You are confused
Cite or remove

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1176 on: January 09, 2017, 06:10:38 PM »


OK so tell us precisely what your duties were in administering sedation including a description of the equipment, gases and chemicals used. It should be easy enough for an experienced man to rattle that lot off from memory in short time .
I used to give ga with a McKesson machine using nitrous oxide and fluothane as an adjunct
Adults got Brietal
Later due to regs stuck to sedation
RA machine simply n2o and O2
Start 80/20 then reduce O2 until sedation achieved
Judged by experience
Adults Valium then vasimuls and now midazolam with venflon blue 
Start 2 mg then increase max 10
We just used to pop 10 in for everyone

Yes it was easy for me to rattle it off
« Last Edit: January 09, 2017, 06:12:58 PM by davel »

Alfie

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Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1177 on: January 09, 2017, 06:14:45 PM »
I used to give ga with a McKesson machine using nitrous oxide and fluothane as an adjunct
Adults got Brietal
Later due to regs stuck to sedation
RA machine simply n2o and O2
Start 80/20 then reduce O2 until sedation achieved
Judged by experience
Adults Valium then vasimuls and now midazolam with venflon blue 
Start 2 mg then increase max 10
We just used to pop 10 in for everyone

Yes it was easy for me to rattle it off
Sit back and wait for Alice to ridicule your post... *&*%£

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1178 on: January 09, 2017, 06:17:25 PM »
Sit back and wait for Alice to ridicule your post... *&*%£
She won't be able to

stephen25000

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Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1179 on: January 09, 2017, 06:26:40 PM »
For a somewhat more thorough look at what is available, this link will serve.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_anesthesia

However, it should be pointed out,  since when have we been dealing with an 'abductor dentist' in this case ?

 &%+((£


..and there is this

https://www.rcr.ac.uk/system/files/publication/field_publication_files/Safe_Sedation.pdf
« Last Edit: January 09, 2017, 06:37:32 PM by stephen25000 »



Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1182 on: January 09, 2017, 06:45:23 PM »
Sit back and wait for Alice to ridicule your post... *&*%£

Why would I do that?
I have the answer to my question.........in part. Which tells me what I wanted to know.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Alfie

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Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1183 on: January 09, 2017, 06:52:30 PM »
She won't be able to
What HE will do is pretend you've said something you haven't and insist that you have lost the debate.  Or claim that you've made a fatal error in your post that only those of higher intelligence (such as himself) can discern.   Well worn tactics that are wearing a bit thin...  @)(++(*

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.
« Reply #1184 on: January 09, 2017, 06:53:55 PM »
What HE will do is pretend you've said something you haven't and insist that you have lost the debate.  Or claim that you've made a fatal error in your post that only those of higher intelligence (such as himself) can discern.   Well worn tactics that are wearing a bit thin...  @)(++(*
Actually I wrote it rather quickly and there is at least on minor mistake there